I'd say that is pretty right up to an extent. And also as you can see, views can be so skewed by labeling someone that you can get no true picture of that person who you are trying to label. That is one reason why I don't want or need any labels. I feel comfortable with a good sane balance and labels are really limiting.
Earthmother The problem is you seem unwilling to discuss your views (that are right wing) openly, you make some statement then when asked about it you are evasive, sometimes you refuse outright sometimes you acted all affronted (and don’t give an answer) and sometimes you demand the thread be closed. Anyway as an example just look at http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=363483&page=13 In it you recount how you would like to kill millions, your only regret seeming to be that it isn’t possible. But as I pointed out – Your reply is instructive You are not saying no, you seem to be saying that might not be possible straight away. Although on something else you are clear To which you replied * I would have loved to examine your views more closely but…well you didn’t seem to want to.
You do not want to examine my views at all, you simply want to put words in my mouth and tell me what I said, and then place a label on me. Which I do not appreciate. You are impossible to have any discussion with, because you misinterpret pretty much everything that is said to you, then seal it with a label, and no more intelligent conversation can be had. Thick as a brick.
that's what i figured the argument was about. i dunno if you were just being facetious, but those are stereotypical right wing views. but if the little quiz says you're by ghandi, then overall, you're liberal. like i said though, pretty much no one is 100% anything.
Quote: "maybe you are not being so ambitious maybe you’d want to try and weed out the ‘weaklings’ in different ways and remove the layers more incrementally? Less government, ‘telling people what to do’ so that people have to take ‘responsibility for their own lives’ – so no state provision of welfare, healthcare, social security, education or training. Few if any of those silly regulations and laws that have an effect on wages, prices, rents, employment, health and safety and so on. And of course if government was small then there would little or no need for taxation. My point has been that it is not always possible to accept what someone claims and instead make up your own mind from what they actually say. The thing is that earthmother whatever she might claim always seem to express ideas that are based on a right wing mindset. But for whatever reason she doesn’t want to be seen as a right winger.
earthmother So once again we have evasion. You’re doing exactly what you have done in the past, refuse to debate honestly.
dude, if she took the quiz and her views lined up near ghandi's, she's liberal. more liberal than the democratic party even. all the test does really is take all your views and line them up on a political scale. her arguments might seem a little backwards, but i have faith in that little quiz.
You mean that she seems to be right wing to you, but not to anybody else, therefore she is right wing. Because she's not. She is debating honestly. You are lecturing her and trying to railroad the debate. Its quite hilarious the way you seem to enjoy being the self-styled intellectual British socialist, living in London and sneering at the 'right wing' American farmers who you think represent everything bad. Maybe you should try treating her with respect, you know as if you actually cared what she had to say rather than just lecturing her?
Hipstatic Once again you have no counter argument you’re just asserting I’m wrong. Fine, if you think I’m wrong – put up an argument, explain why I’m wrong instead of this rather than descending to juvenile posturing and name calling.
* I’m getting a lot of denial, rancour and evasion, but no real counter arguments. Look if you don’t think my argument stands then refute it. But if you can’t refute it, then it stand, however much you shout and beat your chests. Come on people give me some rational argument, give me some informed discourse, please give me something which seems to have been given some thought.
I’ve set out why I think they are right wing, you’re making an assertion that I’m wrong, the definition you quote doesn’t actually refute my arguments because it is basically an assertion, it doesn’t specifically cover what I’ve being saying. Can you refute my arguments or are you just going to make assertions and quote assertions that don’t.
well...we can assume the quiz is legit...or we can sit down and analyze every political viewpoint she has and figure it out for ourselves. hell, why not just take the quiz's analysis and the fact she claims to be liberal and take it as you just don't wanna admit you're wrong. although i can see where you were coming from. earthmother was using a lot of vague and stereotypical arguments that you commonly hear from republicans.
