Pandora Papers

Discussion in 'Politics' started by erofant, Oct 17, 2021.

  1. erofant

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    Maybe I missed it on here, but who has read about the "Pandora papers" ??

    They're a collection of documents (that several media have been given) that reveal how the richest people get away with paying no taxes on their billions, where they hide their money, WHO some of the guilty people are, etc. Since the story broke 10 days - 2 weeks ago or so, their seems to be a behind-the-scenes effort to make the story disappear. This story SHOULD NEVER DISAPPEAR !!!!!!

    If you think that all of us get a fair shake in our economic system ...... THIS is proof we don't. This should PISS OFF everyone - regardless of political party - who isn't worth multiple millions or BILLIONS of dollars!!!! We pay our taxes ........ the richest DO NOT!!! (despite their LYING CLAIMS that they pay the majority of the taxes in the U.S.)
     
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  2. Vladimir Illich

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    Yes matey, I did see this and I did put a link about it on the 'Latest news' thread.
     
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  3. erofant

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    Thanks, friend!! I browsed some of the other threads, so I must have missed your link posting.
     
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    Russia Today, a Russian propaganda medium, notes that no western leaders are implicated by the papers, and suggests it is a CIA-instigated operation to embarrass Putin's rich cronies. . .Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Warren Buffet are conspicuously absent from the list. Of the world's 20 wealthiest people, none is mentioned in the Pandora Papers But Ringo Starr, Elton John, Julio Iglesias,and Shakira are. Nevertheless, interesting reading!
     
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  5. erofant

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    All known to be at the heart of all the world's problems. :rolleyes:

    The REAL POWER PLAYERS seem to never be named .......... in any tax evasions, sex trafficking, child molestations, high-end "escort services", etc. I truly believe that death has been threatened on any people who dare to expose the REAL POWER PLAYERS in any of these "rich get away with everything" cases.

    I suspect that HUGE amounts of cold, hard cash in unmarked envelopes are being distributed to those who have the inside info of the "Pandora Papers." Gotta make the Pandora story fade into nothingness .......
     
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  6. Piney

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    One must add that this information is stolen.
     
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  7. erofant

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    It's a REAL S.O.B. when actual TRUTH gets out ....... isn't it????? Where's the crime - hiding the truthful info, as has been done by the ELITE RICH ............... or divulging it so everyone can see the FACTS of how the avg. American - and other countries' citizens - are being screwed?????
     
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    Can information really be stolen?
     
  9. Vladimir Illich

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    You need to pose that question to the American government who are trying to extradite Julian Assange.
     
  10. Lodog

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    So anything marked Pandora maybe not open correct? Could be all kinds of nasty things waiting to pop out. Being Political the only thing left is Obama's Hope.
     
  11. erofant

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    Transparency & "daylighting" are the only ways to get at the root of problems, crimes, and evil. And using "national security" as an excuse for everything under the sun is bullshit. That's just a convenient tag attached to hide illegal and shameful behaviors. BAD things seek to remain hidden. This applies to ALL political views.
     
  12. Echtwelniet

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    It is mainlly about taxes.........................that you and i have to pay,to keep society running.

    And rich people and big companies dont.........by filtering it......sooo much of this crap going around in the financial world, it is scary*sigh*

    Mzzls
     
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  13. scratcho

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    Of course over the years in the forums, (and in private conversations IRL) --I have offhandedly tossed off the term --rigged--when I mentioned the economic structure of the US government and how it affects most all of us. I have read and known of issues such as that which is revealed in the Pandora Papers -and other similar monetary issues / schemes indulged in and favored by the rich, whether individuals, corporations, or other entities and notoriously (IMO) facilitated by the contemporary legislators of ANY time / era one wants to investigate such privileges / cheating. One wonders how such legislators get paid other than the huge contributions for election / re-election campaigns from the aforementioned legislators. Rigged.

    Pretty ironic when you start figuring out who actually pays for most everything that keeps a nations infrastructure, its government , its wars, and everything else that's considered to be the "desired "results (not war--but shit happens)of a well run ,economically fair democracy , when you find out that it's so tilted in favor of the monied class that we could be called a moneyocracy, among other things. The democrats and the republicans are part of the same problem, although I see and have seen that the democrats are more for civil and economic rights than the republicans. It's been ever thus in my 82 years experience. ( although its true that in my formative years , I was much more interested in ice cream that in politics.)
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    The American dream is so much bullshit theses days.
     
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  14. Echtwelniet

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    Finance and economics are always of big interest to me, specially the US ;) and the influence it has on the rest of the world.It seems to be a seperate entity from the rest............outside geopolitics/society/ect.

    If something is going to be current society s downfall(worldwide) it is the world of finance/valuta(greed), people forget fast(2008). It is a empty cardhouse,wich they just make more complicated,to keep it alive and make more virtual money for people/buisnesses who already have enough.

    The US banking system amazes me(fed) and the history behind it(and how little US people know about it) People in the US have to try to look beyond politics(left/right), they both cater to the wrong people(banks) imo..................not that we do much better, we are slowly going the same way(ecb).Smartest capitalist atm are the Chinese, using/abusing the system until it gives,lol.



    Old,long and boring(if your not interested), but a good history lesson.:D

    Mzzls
     
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    Confucius says:
    "If you are extremely rich, you should confess yourself".
    A stat claims :
    For each millionaire & billionaire, there are at least 800,000,000 extremely poor people they created.
     
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  16. erofant

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    YES - they DO forget fast. All the deregulation of the banking and financial systems by George W. Bush and Trickey-Dicky Cheyney from 2000 to 2007 led to the financial meltdown and the mortgage disasters. The regulations and rules that had been in place prior to the Bush/Cheyney regime eliminated them cause the big banks and Wall Street crowd to INVENT new ways to steal money from the public and destroy the life savings of millions of people.
    Then - the Democrats under Obama implemented NEW financial laws to safeguard the public from those disasters happening again.
    Enter T**** and Moscow Mitch McConnell and THE REPUBLICANS who swiftly eliminated the very safeguards that Obama and the Democrats had put in place to protect against a repeat of the financial meltdown of 2007/2008.

    Forget political labels / name-calling for a moment ........... just consider YOUR MONEY and YOUR FUTURE FINANCIAL SECURITY.

    Do you - Republican, Democrat, Independent, Green Party, Libertarian - want laws that prevent the fleecing of you and your investments?? Do you want protective laws that prevent the "casino-type" gambling, newly-invented "investment vehicles", and "creative accounting" that happened in 2007/2008?? Do you want to feel like you're investing your life savings in a level playing field, with no "shady dealings" behind closed doors to rip you off??

    Then you CANNOT vote for REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS - who eliminate or weaken every financial regulation they can get their slimy fingers on. If you trust them and all their RICH crony donors to safeguard your life savings, then why not get rid of bank security systems and guards too?? How many times does the public need to get fleeced / cleaned out before they catch on to what THE REPUBLICAN PARTY has done / is doing to them???

    Even John Bogle said in plain English - "...... the system is rigged against the individual investor." And Bogle was a financial insider who was FOR the little guy - enduring as he did, MUCH HATRED from other financial big-wigs who profit from deregulation & weakened financial protection laws.

    Who loves ya, baby???
     
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