P.e.T.A. Kills Animals, Routinely

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  1. RooRshack

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    Probably, your local animal shelter/humane society. You know, the ones PETA tells about all the happy homes they have for pets, so they can euthanize them. Most of them are run by people who like animals and want to give them the best lives possible, while PETA just wants to kill them, in a "humane" and systematic way. Most of them would be thrilled if you go volunteer, for instance the one here constantly needs people to foster newborn/abandoned kittens (take home, bottle feed, socialize, etc, for a few weeks), which is about the most direct way you can shape the animal's lives and future.

    Given that the thread was about PETA being a combination of mental illness and evil, I don't think that people mentioning how PETA is actually, pretty evil and run by mentally ill people, is derailing the thread at all. It's very germain to the topic.

    I think you just need to know when to throw in the towel and seriously think about the opposing viewpoint. And if you can get me to say that, you need to listen ;)
     
  2. Aerianne

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  3. Driftwood Gypsy

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    I hear you and I'll take it to heart.
     
  4. Driftwood Gypsy

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    I looked it over again. PETA is just so great at the publicity thing, it's a shame that their cause isn't pure. I like how loud they are, and I had hoped/still hoping that the organization fixes its ways, because I know so many great people who are PETA members and doing real good.
     
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  6. odonII

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    I think you need to provide some evidence.
     
  7. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    I think the thing that pisses me off most about PETA, is that so many loving people are duped into donating thinking that their money is going to help animals. They bring in well over 30 million a year, and waste it on Shock advertisements. How many animals could have been saved by the money spend on Super Bowl ads alone? I mean, awareness is great and all, but not a the expense of the 90% of their animals they kill. And how many Super Bowl viewers are really going to go veg because a half naked super models say they should?
     
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    The issue that seems to keep cropping up is that PETA kills animals, and some 'ma and pa' shelters don't. Perhaps they need to make it clear it isn't a 'local' charity and it isn't a no kill charity. That might help.

    I don't think that is a true statistic.
     
  9. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    Feel free to correct me, but all the figures I'm finding says that their shelters maintain a kill rate between 87-97%

    http://www.globalanimal.org/2013/05/14/petas-deadly-practice-exposed/95369/

    I've read reports of healthy animals being executed the same day as admittance. Obviously that's here say, and can't be proven. But such an excessive kill rate alone shows that their resources aren't going towards shelterig/adoptin animals. They are going towards pet eradication.
     
  10. Aerianne

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    I don't get it. No pets? What then...wild packs roaming...more feral population? What does PETA want for animals?
     
  11. RooRshack

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    For them to exist entirely seperately from humans.

    Because it's okay for other animals to use other species to do everything from feed them to carry them or as food, but humans, we just can't morally be ANIMALS, even though we are.

    The only way to save them is to kill them all.

    Imagine if abolitionists had been like PETA.... you've abused and taken advantage of slaves, guess we'll just have to euthanize every last one.

    Yeah, it's hard to PROVE, egg, that PETA simply want to kill all companion/domestic animals, because they consider it totally impossibly for them to be anything but exploited. But actions speak louder than words, and PETA's actions speak that way. They don't scream it from the rooftops (at least, not all the time) but they still rescue, and then kill summarially, thousands of animals, while spending billions an ads. And the ads obviously don't make them more popular, they only serve to make people who like PETA like them more, and people who resent PETA resent them more.

    Their position on pit bulls seems transparent, to me: they want to eliminate the breed..... because they want to eliminate domestic animals.
     
  12. Aerianne

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    So...PETA wants all animals to go back to feral?

    Or do they want to cause species extinction?

    I still don't understand their end goal.
     
  13. RooRshack

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    It appears to be to kill all domestic animals, and then have a firm seperation between humans and every other animal on the planet.

    They don't think that domestic species can exist ethically, so yes, they want to eradicate them entirely.

    But they mostly want rediculous attention-grabbing polarizing positions, and money to further the attention-grabbing nature of those positions.
     
  14. Aerianne

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    Simply nauseating.
     
  15. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    Does anyone know why the e in the PeTA logo is lower case?

    I know that sounds like the beginning of a joke, but I am curious as to the real reasoning.
     
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    That article uses the same data used in the O.P and I would imagine is the basis for any other articles you have read. All based on: http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ (which has been highlighted already.)

    I think the stat' is based on one shelter at their HQ. And also not based on all the animals they take in and send on etc.

    Later posts here highlight the average 'kill' rate in other well known organisations. Peta being slightly higher, true. But they seem to take in anything and everything.

    I doubt you'll get a fair assessment from a no kill campaign such as petakillsanimals
     
  17. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    The numbers they are using were reported by PeTA themselves to the Virginia Department for Agriculture and Consumer Services. They list the numbers for dogs, cats, poultry, and "other companion animals."
     
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    I know. It's with regards to their HQ:
    "PETA will basically take anything that comes through the door, and other shelters won't do that."~Elaine Lidholm, Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services Director of Communications http://www.whypetaeuthanizes.com/understanding-petas-shelter.html

    American Humane supports the establishment and operation of low-cost spay/neuter clinics. The reduction in cost motivates those who cannot and those who will not pay the full cost for the operation and has proven successful in reducing euthanasia rates in communities across the nation.
    http://www.americanhumane.org/animals/stop-animal-abuse/fact-sheets/animal-shelter-euthanasia.html

    Pledge to End Animal Homelessness!


    Homelessness is not just a human problem. U.S. animal shelters must put to death nearly 4 million dogs and cats every year because of simple math: There are too many animals and not enough worthy adoptive homes. You can help prevent this—it's as easy as Animal Birth Control!

    Never Breed or Buy. Always Adopt. Always Spay and Neuter.
    https://secure.peta.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=2065

    I posted another article earlier about how many animals Peta kills etc, but re-reading it that person doesn't know how many animals Peta takes in.
    I couldn't really find any data regarding how many animals they help find homes for.
    The only data seems to be limited to their HQ which seems not to be an animal shelter per se.
     
  19. Dude111

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    Yea they fool everyone into thinking THEY ARE THERE TO PROTECT ANIMALS!!!!!

    Well KILLING THEM for any reason,IS NOT HELPING THEM!!
     
  20. Driftwood Gypsy

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    https://secure.peta.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=2065
    hold on. looks like they ARE advocating for pets? adopt from shelters?
    And I can support or at least understand euthanasia if it's to end the animal's suffering.
     
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