I think you have that right. I would still ignore you though. Likewise, you can ignore cuss words. And just above you were complaining on behalf of freedom of speech for Christians... they're just cuss words, for god's sake. They're only as potent as you yourself make them out to be. It's all in the mind... it's been years since a curse word has offended me. I... see... what a wonderful vision of religious tolerance
I don't think you understand any of this at all. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with freedom to curse! Curse words sound very ugly and they make you look ignorant. You say you don't want the Government tellin' you what to do yet you demand more rights and show in public what kinds of rebellion you are into and you don't get it that the Government knows it,or that the Government thinks that most people are stupid!!! Yes,it's really going to help America for people to act like they cannot control their sex drives,V.D. spreading,unwanted pregnancies,abortions, teens driving drunk,killing each other,teen pregnancy and suicide,everyone changing the english language to freedom of speech to curse words,and pornography,ect..... ( I don't think it helps us any!) The Government thinks most people are stupid except for the so called "Elite" groups who think they have a right to choose who should be allowed to live. :H Already mexicans in Mexico are taking the I.D. chip,and it's a tracking device. Big Brother is here,and so is Babylon (say hello'),Sodom & Gomorrah,and the days are like the days of Noah. satan did a grand job of making christians look like the boy who cried wolf too many times,so now that the wolf is really here,no one will believe us. Trust me,the Government wants nothing more than to control us,and if enough panic gets started,people will be begging the Government for help. They set up and used hardened criminals to cause a panic with all the missing kids just so people will buy the I.D. chip, but that chip can be used against you,and it will if you choose not to obey the Government.
No matter how ugly they get,for Jesus,keep trying to help them,because when they do finally see for themselves,they will be very happy you said something to them. hang in there,o.k? God loves for us to love even the hard to love.
:sunglasse For those of us who know God is real for a fact,take it from me,you don't want to waste another minute of your life! www.absolutetruth.net/creation/ www.rae.org www.jesusislord.com/#evolution www.psrast.org/junkdna.htm www.creationscience.com www.icr.org www.origins.org/articles/vitz_psychologyofatheism.html
Cursing is still a form of speech. There are some entire languages out there that can "sound ugly," that's purely subjective. Anyway, again, curse words are just words. No one has died or contracted an illness or whatever from hearing a curse word. There are lots of other things, such as what you mention below, that are far more deserving of fussing over. Do I think cussing is always good? No, but I don't think of it as evil either. I think there are times when a cuss word suits the situation just because other words fail to have that extra punch. You resort to cuss words when words fail to describe your emotion, sort of an acknowledgement of the limitations of our language. In other words they're there to be said when you're really pissed off or psyched or dumbfounded or whatever. It can get annoying if people use 'em in every sentence constantly or something, but it's still a pretty benign practice. And anyway, cuss words will lose their sting if you just stop and realize that they're just harmless sounds. .... I love how you seem to equate the evils of curse words up there with murder, suicide, teen pregnancy & drunk driving, and venereal diseases Um... yeah. Words fail me here... that's some crazy-ass shit
I used to be athiest, but I'll let you live life and learn. But you athiest make it seem like all thiest are not only against god, but you are so against any form of god that you esspecially do mean things and say mean things JUST to prove that god isn't going to strike you down with a lightning bolt. I used to be athiest, and then I realized that my not believing in a Christian god didn't mean that I was atheist, it just meant that I believed in energy and the universe. Atheist spend so much time finding reasons to justify them not believing in the bible. Like the council of nicea? Like everything else I could list here. If they would spend more time SEARCHING for WHAT they believe in instead of what they DON'T. I realized that being atheist, means that your life has no meaning, except for the future children of the earth and then you die. I like my new set of spiritual ideals much better =) I live, try to feel loved, and expand my love to others, and when I die, if I am spiritually in tune then I get to go onto the next level. http://ascension2000.com/ConvergenceIII/ - read this... http://ascension2000.com/Ra-studyguide.htm - read this... http://educate-yourself.org/cn/rule...me08may03.shtml
"Atheist spend so much time finding reasons to justify them not believing in the bible." Other people don't have to justify their spiritual beleifs, so why do I? I know what and why I beleive what I do. And why is it, pray tell, that athiests are always painted as a cynical, depressed, self-centered bunch?
You only have as much wisdom as you have been granted and it shows. Probably because the majority of atheists are a cynical, self centered bunch. I prefer to paint atheists as jokers or fools.
God is dead ? Really! If God is dead the bible would be untrue, and so would all those bible stories. But guess what, they found the Red Sea crossing site. Divers are now discovering the remnants of pharaohs army. Chariots and chariot wheels are being located on the bottom along with coral incrusted deadmens bones. Not far from there they discovered mount sinia. That is the mountain where Moses received the Ten Comandments. According to the bible God dwelt on the mountain and the bible states that the fire from God was like a furnance. God instructed Moses to put boundry markers all around the mountain to keep the people away. The markers have been found, and the mountain peak has been burned black. The altar that the bible states that the golden calf was displayed on is still there. The caves of moses has also been found. The Bible states that when the Jews retake Israel that the generation that sees this will not pass away before Christ returns. The bible states that the east gate in Jerusalem would be sealed and remain so until Christ returns. The east gate was sealed about 400 years ago. On two occasions the moslems tried to break through it and end the prophecy they failed on both tries. The gate is still sealed as the prophecy said. The gate will be opened when the God you donot believe in returns. The Jews returning to Israel is part of Gods future plan. The world doesent have a clue, but very soon its going to get its face slapped. The God of the bible is not dead, but this world is to stupid to see what God is about to do.
You would think in an atheist forum atheists would be all over campbell's post but I guess they just can't handle the truth.
And I am positive you know what most of the athiests on earth feel in their hearts. I also prefere to paint Christians as bigots and zealots, is my opinion more valid than yers?
I was just trying to get people to talk.... everyone in the atheist forum is saying negative things about the Bible and God and when campbell presents facts there's silence...
You don't want people to talk... you want people to shut up and listen to you... and then when people disagree with you, you can't believe it... you just can't comprehend the idea that somebody could disagree with you... so you repeat everything you say over and over, thinking all of us "ignorant atheists" were to fucking stupid to understand you the first time around... to you, there's just no way in hell that someone could here yer opinions and not "see the light"... arrogance... ego trip... and if you really want people to take you seriously should stop thinking that everyone (even atheists) will hear the words "it's true because the bible says so" and go "Oh, well that makes sense... sorry i ever doubted you JesusMan..."
sometimes i think as much as christians are desperately clinging to the belief in god for whatever their reasons, .... comfort... purpose.. SOMETHING to believe in... or even as they would say because read the bible .... athiests seem to me almost just as desperate to cling to the fact that god does NOT exist and also waste a whole damn lot of energy on the trying to argue out who is right or ... at least see who has the better argument. anyway... i dont know why but people are curious beings.. we are also pretty insecure if we feel lost. so someone is always gonna believe in god. that doesnt make them idiots. its all this arguing.. not the arguing in itsself but the common urgency of making someone else see that you are right that is so ridiculous. just like what many athiests do. there are also those out there who have considered lots of possibilities and gone around in circles trying to decide whether or not to believe cuz at this point in human evolution we just plain cannot PROVE the existance OR non existance of God. its all a matter of what you choose to believe in if anything at all.. having a religion in itsself is also not a bad thing at all... most people have to find something to use as a focal point in their lives... sometimes it can really help a person. choosing not to believe is also not so bad in itsself .. its basically how a person chooses to live aside from that makes or breaks the reputation of a lifestyle or belief system.so everyone just chill out. believe or dont believe whatever the hell you want and let the next man decide for himself. ... as long as we are alive we will not know if god exists or not anyway... science can keep proving... for or against but if god DID exist ... he seems to enjoy watching us tie our brains in knots. i respect believers. sometimes i wish i still did. i wish i had faith in something at least anyway. but here i am .. .lost soul swimmin in a fish bowl year after year .
hello everybody, God is flowing along, what is changing is OUR UNDERSTANDING of what God is... People in all sorts of religions, cults, sects, followers of mystical teachers or lack thereof, are turning on to the experience of god, they are not just blindly believing in something, but they are experiencing divinity, oneness with a superintelligent loving universe, some see glimpses, others dive in... They see this through meditation, yoga, tantra, psychedelic drugs, spontaneous changes in consciousness, love, worship, near death experience, devotion and on and on and on... There are so many ways people are turning on. Yet many all over are finding the spiritual path, they see that all paths lead to this place, even paths away from this place of eternal compassion for all that is are really going toward it, you can't escape what is inevitable, total healing! We see there is a unity in religions. We see they are talking about the same thing... We are awakening to our heart, expanding of conciousness into higher realms, evolving... the creation of evolution! This mystical KNOWING of god, is very different, it brings with it transending bliss, unconditional love, visions, expansive peace, miracles, going beyond the ego, beyond the physical plane, into the deeper realms of the soul. There are so many planes of reality, once you surf into new ones, you begin to see that you were missing out. I say this with much personal understanding, for a few years ago, i was an athiest, said things like god is dead, trashed religion, all of them, spiritual crap, and would really pick unfairly on christians... Then I had a mystical experience on LSD, and knew that there was SOMETHING MORE then what i had thought was reality... I KNEW it was real, it was what all the religions had talked about and I had tasted it... I got into the spiritual path, and turned on to meditation, yoga, spiritual teachers and all that sorts of stuff... I love to learn from many different religions, the real learning occurs in my intuitive heart. So i guess you could call me a heart man, but i don't belong to any religion even if I may focus more on the eastern mystical teachings. Now on to Jesus... Jesus was a realized being, he is much misunderstood, but what he was really saying was, Love your neighbor as yourself, why? because they are you... and love god with all your heart, mind and soul... never think, do or say anything that would ever hurt anyone. Do this, and it all comes together... people say, yeah, but he also said, he is the way, the truth and the light and no one comes to the father but through him... And this means that christ is the only true path, and all the other paths lead to hell.. No silly, through him, means as you near GOD realization, you TAKE on the attributes of Christ, you become unconditionally loving, nonviolent, all seeing, all knowing, miracolous abilities granted to you by a higher power which is constantly guiding you, forgiving, compassion and willing to sacrafice your body for all of humanity! This is what happened to many saints, and mystics that became totally one with God, they are still around, Amma for instance... there have been many throughout history. christ is a state of consciousness, he realized, he is in you, in all of us... Many saints, mystics and beings have ripped open thier heart, laughing all the way to the kingdom of God within, serving all beings with trembling power of compassion, the healing bliss of love, seeing the perfection! “One night, the abbot invited me into his study, he was beautiful German scholar rosy cheeks pudgy beautiful little man, wonderful, he looked up at me, and he said, Ram Dass, there is one question I have to ask you. ‘What is the meaning between the kiss between Judas and Jesus?’ ‘Perhaps they were enjoying the game’ and he went into ecstasy and we started dancing around the room together.” Ram Dass story about a Benedictine Monastery retreat he intended. And remember, silly, god is not to be found in your rational thinking logical mind... like a quantum physicist would say you can't think rationally about a 12 demenional reality... god is playful, love is light, spirituality is very funny, play with god, find that place of compassionate humor for all beings... and be free from all attachments! the process is perfection
Whatever fits your politically correct world... it does matter which god you believe in you will go to heaven But you see that is what made Jesus different. He was not politically correct He claimed he was the only way and the price was death. And I am sure if He went around the world today claiming he was the messiah that he was the only way the world would still cry out "crucify him!"
-What I want is people to become followers of Jesus Christ. But that usually does not come without some sort of confrontation. And even if you do prove the Bible is a 100% true to them they still have to accept it. So I challenge them to prove the Bible wrong but all people do is say broad statements and never get detailed about the Arcaheologic, Sceintific, or Prophetic proof. So I challenge everyone that thinks the Bible is false to go and prove it wrong. Infact I'll make it simplier I challenge you to read the link below it will save you a lot of time.