Over 10,000 Galaxies In This One Picture

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by r0llinstoned, Feb 8, 2015.

  1. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Never stops short of making me LOL. A lot of people here are quick to dismiss the government, call them out for lies, "never trust the government!!!" But when it's got to do with science, the same government that funds their scientific obsession they're so quick to believe. I mean, c'mon, man.

    LOL
     
  2. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Its also not true within science. That background radiation map is also a composite, data taken from different points at different times using best accepted mathematical models

    If anyone ever wanted to try use that at 375000 years to calculate what it might of looked like at 100000 years, they wouldnt, cos it didnt look exaclty like that at 375,000 years. We'd need to be able to capture all data simultaneously at a single point in time to see what it really looked like. So its not really true
     
  3. themnax

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    well they're not actually IN the picture. nothing is IN a picture. its a picture. it may be a picture OF a real image from a telescope in space. i think someone already pinned that one down. and i'm just being futsy, but that's how i sometimes am.
     
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  5. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    Maybe rat will agree with you that the pic is faked.

    I don't know of anyone who says "never trust the government" but who is also quick to believe scientists.
     
  6. guerillabedlam

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  7. guerillabedlam

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    It's thermal imaging, it's not a photograph we would take with a regular camera.. An analogous example would be like fmri imaging with brains:

    Picture:

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    Fmri:

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    Iirc the cosmic microwave background radiation cools as the universe expands which is represented by the variations in color in the WMAP image.
     
  8. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Ya know what that pic looks like to me?

    A bunch of crap going down a trash shute. :)

    But it IS pretty!
     
  9. guerillabedlam

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    ^ Pretty irrelevant to the analogy I'm trying to make, but ok...
     
  10. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    what would be the purpose to photoshop that .. it's a real picture.

    yes, there really are other galaxies out there ...
     
  11. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    when you spin the camera to get the effect..
     
  13. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    awesome


    happiness is the night sky.....in all of its glory. I love astronomy.
     
  14. skip

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    The universe is a computer program/virus run wild.

    Soon we will be able to model the Universe in a computer.

    That will be the Creation. Again.

    And pray tell what lies beyond the boundaries of our Universe?
     
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  15. Moonglow181

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    another universe, and then another and so on...infinitely.... :D
     
  16. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    so it's the exposure time, gravitational lensing is cooler tho :p
     
  17. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    if u ran a model of a universe in a computer at a sufficent resolution of detail you would eventually find all of the features developing that normally would occur if the universe were a "real" universe.

    to entities inside the model universe simulation, there would be no obvious way to tell that they were part of a simulation, and really, what would be the difference?

    if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck ... it's a duck. I can emulate a 6502 processor on an x86 machine and run 6502 code in it and from the point of view of the 6502 program there's no difference at all between running in the emulator and running on the real hardware, for all intensive purposes it's the same machine with the same behavior, whether it's actual hardware or implemented in software makes not so much difference.
     
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  18. skip

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    When you think about the origin of the Universe that we can perceive, it begins with pure energy.

    The release of the massive amount of energy (if you believe in Big Bang) caused a chain reaction.

    A chain reaction that can and has been simulated in computer models.

    Hydrogen atoms eventually formed from (God knows what, eh?) and they started to slam into each other with great force.

    More complex atoms came about thru nuclear fusion and fission.

    And the rest, as they say, is history (time was defined)

    Just imagine that image in the first post as a nearly infinite pool table, with an nearly infinite # of balls, all moving and colliding and destroying and creating new matter.

    And that's just from what we can SEE!

    Imagine all that remains hidden from us.

    Hell, we haven't even visited another planet yet (just a dusty ol' moon)
     
  19. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Action and reaction.
     
  20. skip

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    So is the universe a PURPOSEFUL randomness?

    I can see a purpose it in now. :alien:

    OK, suppose this universe was created by an intelligent being or even race of beings (I prefer the latter).

    Let's say these beings don't normally physically reside in what we call our Universe.

    Suppose they created it either as an experiment, or for educational purposes, or just for fun?

    The random nature of the Universe they designed would create an infinite number of novelties (see Chaos theory).

    So perhaps the goal was to see what would be created of interest.

    After billions of years of randomness, the Universe became more complex.

    It evolved. It also got more interesting.

    Life began to organize and reproduce and evolve.

    So at that point, the Creators, if they exist, may have decided to VISIT the most interesting parts of their creation.

    They could chose any lifeform(s) to inhabit consciously to experience the worlds they created first hand.

    Of course they have to be careful not to get so caught up in their creations that they forget who they really are!

    And who are they?

    Look in mirror...
     

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