Our tax system explained in beer

Discussion in 'Politics' started by 6-eyed shaman, Apr 1, 2019.

  1. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Super Moderator

    Thing is if this is the level of his understanding I honestly wouldn’t want him anywhere near my accounts.
     
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  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

    Are you also gonna react in depth to the other posters who criticised it well? Or just react to Soulcompromise and ignore the rest. Posting such a vid with a catchy but faulty explanation is of course rather easy as well.
     
  3. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Super Moderator

    What’s that in the distance is it a roadrunner is it a coyote no its 6 running away with his tail between his legs….again.

    My question is why do so many on the right seem to just accept simplistic arguments, memes, slogans, and snake oil video pushers without question, analysis or even just a modicum of thought?

    Time after time I see things like this tax/beer thing, stuff that doesn’t make sense when thought about for just a few minutes. But many on the right seem to fall for them over and over, instantly seeming to see them as intellectual masterpieces who are so confident in the craps brilliance that they at once share without a thought.

    You would think after the first time they would have pause and check before sharing and after the tenth time be worried about their own judgement, but like the coyote in the cartoons they keep falling for every dodgy Acme company meme, slogan and video.

    Why are so many on the right so gullible?
     
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  4. Orison

    Orison my dog is full of walls Staff Member Super Moderator

    Thanks professor for breaking the video meme down.. What would we do without you?
     
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  5. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Super Moderator

    O

    Probably be stuck with people that pump out one line posts of no substance like some people here…..
     
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  6. Meliai

    Meliai Senior Member

    Considering a lot of people do actually base their worldview on information spread in memes, I applaud his effort
     
  7. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Super Moderator

    Mel

    Thank you for the support

    The thing is that there are a lot of people that want to limit political debate to the simplistic one liner, slogan or meme, it is a way of trying to bamboozle the unwary and I think it is done by those that actually have contempt for the people that fall for it.
     
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  8. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eyed salmon

    Why do soycalists hate it when people are paying as less for their beer as possible. But have no problem with a large percentage of the population paying absolutely nothing for their beer?
     
  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

    ^
    Sounds like he threw the towel in the ring indeed :p
     
  10. lode

    lode One Man Orgy

    A: Your video is wrong. The poorest Americans pay medicare, social security, and all sorts of gas and sales taxes. They only don't pay federal income taxes. The bottom fifth of earners pay about 1/5 of their income in taxes.

    Column: How much do the poor actually pay in taxes? Probably more than you think.

    B: You only wrote two sentences, and made two logical fallacies. Soycalists?
     
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  11. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eyed salmon


    You take everything wayyyy too literally. I suggest reading more poetry and non fiction. It'll give you a better understanding of metaphors. And why Beer is used as an example, not plain-old taxation.
     
  12. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Super Moderator

    6

    Are you saying you think tax fraud is OK?

    I mean what do you mean by ‘beer’ – In the aussies video it seem to be the benefits you get from paying your taxes – roads, sewers, schools, firefighters etc etc

    Also as someone else has pointed out - most workers have money withheld from each paycheck as mandatory contributions to the Social Security and Medicare trust funds. If you're self-employed, you pay 15.3 percent of your gross earnings in so-called payroll taxes. If you're employed by someone else, you pay 7.65 percent and your employer pays the same amount. Many workers are also subject to state and local income taxes, property taxes and sales taxes, in addition to federal income taxes.

    Roughly half of Americans who pay no federal income tax do so because they simply don't earn enough money.

    The other half doesn't pay taxes because of special provisions in the tax code that benefit certain taxpayers, notably the elderly and working families with children.

    So who are the… Americans who don't pay income taxes? The vast majority are the lowest income households, the elderly and young working families with children.

    Are you saying you think those people should suffer so that the already comfortable can get a tax cut?

    Is it true that only 53 percent of Americans pay income tax?

    Five Myths About the 47 Percent
     
  13. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    But this wasn’t presented as non-fiction it claimed to be an explanation of how the tax system worked you even say as much in your introduction saying it showed ‘how our tax system works’ but it didn’t, at best it could be described as overly simplistic but more likely it was actively trying to deceive.

    You got had.

    Thing is with everything, be it fiction or non-fiction should always be looked at with critical judgement rather than just going with prejudice. Virtually in all works there is some types of bias that critical thinking can usually discover and examine.

    For example many people think history is immutable it has happened it cannot be changed, the thing is it can be viewed in differing ways I’ve read a history of Napoleon that portrayed him as a great man and another that showed him as a bloody handed tyrant, which is correct, well both, but if you only read one and just accepted it as ‘the truth’ then you might see the other history as ‘wrong’.

    Take for example that bad sci-fi book ‘Atlas Shrugged’, some uncritical people seem to accept its worldview without question but looked at with just a bit of critical thinking and it’s views don’t stand up well at all.
     
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  14. quark

    quark Parts Unknown

    Ya'll are probably good at the hokey pokey. Put your left hand in (no way, that's gross)... Put your right hand in (as if!)

    What a fucked up world.
     
  15. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    If Irminsul has 24 beers, and somebody takes one of her beers away, how many beers does the other person have?

    None.

    A black eye.

    :D
     
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  16. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter


    Some Peeps Here May Think Your'e Joking......But I Believe You Are In Fact..... "Dead Serious"..... :D



    Cheers Glen.
     
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  17. quark

    quark Parts Unknown

    99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer.
     
  18. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    You Have Clearly Overlooked The Fact That "Irm" Is Online...... :p

    0 Bottles Of Beer On The Wall.......0 Bottles Of Beeeeeeeeeer...... :D



    Cheers Glen.
     
  19. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

    You only act like it was not ment as a serious analogy in any way now because others adequately debunked it. Classic 6-eyed
     
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  20. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eyed salmon

    Anyone should realize that this video is about income tax, not all taxes in general. The higher your income, the more you're taxed. If you wanna get down to it, people who have substance addictions to alcohol and tobacco are generally in the lower class. You could say that the poor pay the most in sin taxes, but not income taxes. So sin taxes are unfair to the poor.
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2019

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