Orgasm during rape

That would be an extremely rare fetish. Rape fantasies are relatively common.

 

And? How does the commonality of the fantasy (a statement for which you offer no empirical evidence) legitimise or justify your comment?

She was RAPED. The essence of that is that she did not consent to what occurred, in every sense, including the orgasm.

Your attitude makes as much sense as justifying a kidnapping because the victim was given a nice meal.

 

Well, you don't "consent" to an orgasm; that would be to misuse the word. Also, you are wrong to suggest that I have attempted to "justify" rape. That was never at issue.

 

"The OP makes it explicitly clear that SHE DID NOT ENJOY BEING RAPED."

The fact that she had an orgasm indicates that the rape gratified something in her unconscous. Anyone who has ever experienced an orgasm knows that you have to be "into it" mentally for it to happen. People are speaking as if something like this could justify rape, but this does not follow at all.

That the OP says she did not enjoy being raped indicates a conflict between the pleasure her unconscious undeniably experienced, and the values of her conscious ego. The OP, (IMO), needs to deal consciously with the fact that her unconscious WAS gratified by the rape; all you well meaning people reassuring her that her uncionscious was NOT gratified by it are therefore not helping (IMHO).

Please understand that I am as well intentioned as the rest of you. I am not out to "justify rape". That is an insane and unfair misunderstanding.

 

This is actually a known phenomenon and unfortunately contributes to the torment of these victims. Remember that your mind and body are two different things. Enough physical stimulation to your physical body will result in orgasm whether you ever mentally were prepared (or consented) for it or not. So don't get confused. It's natural and hopefully you won't let that confuse you.

 

Yeah, of course SOMETHING was gratified, people like sex, it sustains life.

That said, because everyone (nearly) subconsciously, as well as consciously, likes sex, a LOT, OF COURSE A PART OF HER SUBCONSCIOUS WAS GRATIFIED BY THAT WHICH SUSTAINS OUR EXISTENCE.

But it was still rape, and "she", as in, her personality and such, did not like it.

 

i disagree... a married friend of mine experienced her first EVER orgasm whilst she was giving birth to her first child... it was nothing to do with her mind, but lots to do with the physical act of giving birth...

 

^ this. This demonstrates that orgasm can be a physical process rather than one in which one has to be "into it" mentally in order for it to happen.

I have read that most rape victims experience an orgasm during rape. As has been pointed out, this does not mean that women like being raped. Orgasm can occur as a physiological response, rather than unconscious approval.

Unfortunately your line of thinking does serve as a justification for rape. If women secretly enjoy rape, then that must mean that rape is ok. Rapists typically justify rape by thinking "she wanted it".

 

I think that the last two posters need to consider the fact that there is no body/mind dividing line.

As far as giving birth, I'm quite sure that is caused by hormenes and brain chemistry, it's not they physical sensation of having a baby, it's that combined with feelings about it.

Again, this does not mean rape is okay, it just means that you can't control your mind in every way, all the time, and that physical responses depend on chemical signaling, including in the brain. Doesn't mean she was into getting raped, and even if it DID, it would not be an excuse for rape.

Also, basshunter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLyHWIXTrlI"]Basshunter - I Can Walk On Water (HQ) - YouTube

*edit* yeah, I had a few tabs open, basshunter was not for this thread...... But hey, no harm in basshunter.... so it stays.

 

ok lets say i play along with your fucked up logic.

a more common fetish is being spanked. it dosnt mean it is ok to go spanking women on the subway, even if you know they will like it. its still not ok and it still dosnt mean she wants you to do it.
the more you defend the actions of her attacker the more i think you might be the perpetrator.

 

Pensfan: Idiot, that would only be a response to me if I had said that rape is ok. That was never at issue, you complete fucktard. I made no attempt whatsoever at any time to "defend the actions of the attacker."

And e7m8: I have not said that "women enjoy rape", and I very much doubt that "most" rape victims have orgasms, as youngpassion said. But if is fact that some rape victims have orgasms, though you are completely wrong to suggest that this tends to justify rape.

 

way to have civil conversation, lets all just go cursing each other out, oh wait im better than that, and your fucked up theory.

 

i wonder if getting a thread closed would be considered raping the thread.

i'm certain the thread doesn't enjoy it.

 

I thought I already brought up a thread/discussion on this exact same topic that was a lot more civil than this one has turned out to be....

 

Yeah this one has really degenerated...unfortunate cause it's a serious topic

 

there is way too much info missing here to make a call

most importantly....did you call the police?...did you or do you know the person that raped you....who else knows..

 

all really good questions!

 

All those questions crossed my mind too. Like was this at a party where he invited her to a bedroom. Or was it in an empty parking garage. It wouldnt make it any more right but mentally there would be a difference in the thought process.

 

She also needs to go get a full STI and STD test workup too...if this person has done this to her already...I can't say for certain if she is his first victim physically or mentally.

In the meantime, I'm gonna bump my "dark but important discussion" thread for the OP, since it's talking about this same topic.

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=449175&page=3

 

Can't we just close this thread I think the OP has what was needed, listening to some of the other points might not exactly be helping.