Opiate withdrawals

After the first 2-3 doses..tolerance is crazy.. you don't feel it...( at least i don't) I have been on gabapentin for 3 years now for my nerve pain...i can take 3000 a day and noting..maybe a little tired

 

Yeah, your tolerance goes up quickly. But it does help with wd's. I had a prescription for it for 4 years, 1200mg per day, and I never would have guessed that it worked for wd's at higher doses. By chance I happened to see something about it on another forum, so I did a little online research about it, and found that a lot of people were claiming that it helped with opiate withdrawals. I was skeptical because like I say, I was taking 1200mg per day, and I'd been prescribed Hydrocodone for the better part of 8 years. So I tried it and sure enough it worked. Now, after the first day I really didn't catch a buzz from it. Although that first day on about 3000mg of the stuff was great, lol. But my goal wasn't to get high. After the first day it was making me feel really spaced out, and I was aware that my body was going through withdrawals, but it didn't really bother me. I slept well, no RLS, I had plenty of energy and was able to do what I had to do each day. By day 2 I had some diahrrea, but a couple Imodiums took care of that. At day 8 I began to taper the dose down, and when I got back down to the normal dosage the wd's were pretty much over. At least that was my experience with it.

 

Thanks for all the advise....I ended up getting through using both scripts, wicked bitch to kick....Take care.

 

The thing that's worrying me is that I found a new connection, and he has Methadone too, and fairly cheap. I started buying those to stockpile for times when I ran out of my other stuff. I just don't want to become addicted to the Methadone, because the wd's for that are more drawn out.

 

Ya i feel your guys pain. Im currently coming off my suboxone maint. Which lasted almost 2 years with no relapses (im in drug court). My last appt is on tuesday and im down to .25mg. This whole past week, still don't quite feel normal but im sleeping about 6 hrs a night. Its nothing compared to coming off of 110mg of oxy a day habit. I didn't sleep for 10 days straight that time. But rest assured. You all can make it through the withdraws, its a tough mental challenge. but you can do it!

Good luck friends.

 

Ness Im about 2 months maybe 3 away from where you are at, but mine may be a bit steeper timeline to get to say 0.5mg/day. I still think you will feel some affects for 1-2 weeks but nothing like jumping off at 4mg/day, im sure that would be crazy bad! Ive been on Subs for about 10 months, so 1 year hopefully will fine me jumping off! Also, my Shrink told me whatever she can do to help shes all in. Klnopkine clonopine, zanax...whatever to take the edge off withdrawals.......

 

Thats awesome bottlefed! Tonight will be my first night completely off the sub, as i had some left over from the last appt...i think im just going to toss the last 2mg or so. My psychiatrist prescribed 10 days of .5mg klonopin (one each night) and a refill if needed. So i'll let you know how well the klonopin assists the jump off of the suboxone. I hate taking all these drugs to come off of drugs. But this was the best option. As i will only be on the klonopin for tops 20 days, without fear of wanting more. I also am starting to take a multivitamin everyday. I'll post back and good luck to everyone in the struggle.

 

NESS, just know I for one will be checking on u everyday, I am eager to know how you are and what u are feeling. The more I know the more Ill feel comfortable with jumping. Not dreaming of a free ride but to know the meds that help and how bad YOU feel it will help tremendously! Hang in there brother, the lights turned on and just around that last bend in front of you is the Light your looking for!

 

Thanks for the encouragement. 48 hours has passed and been able to sleep with the klonopin. Keeping my fingers crossed. A little anxious/depressed during the day but working out helps. Good luck man.

 

I have a ways to go to get hwere you are. So nothing much other than some mental stuff, I guess tomorow sometime you should start to feel other stuff or you may not, How long were you on your lowest dose?

 

NESS, If you can brother, Would love to hear how you're doing my man. Give us a quick shout and let us know how its going or not going. Rootin for ya.....!

 

I went seven days, relatively easy with the klonopin. On the 8th day, i ate some mushrooms with a friend (good trip) but he had sub to go to sleep so i did like .5mg. Now its been another 2 days without it and no problem. And i don't plan on tripping again anytime soon so i think i am good !!

 

So 8 days without any Subs, what level were you at when u jumped, i cant remember. Also I have about 120MGs left maybe a touch more. I know i can lower to try and get lower, and honestly im gonna start jumping days now, so tomorrow I wont take any and see how it goes, i think there might be enough left in my system to do that and will fight the aches and pains via OTC stuff. I willl end up jumping off at a level far above where i want to be, but oh well, ive jumped from 80MGs Opana on top of 180MGs of roxi all per day before so that one was pretty rough so I feel i can handle this, it will just take longer and probably wont hit me quite as hard all at once. I have loads of opiates left, none of which ive touch in about 7 months (end of July). I only say that because this will be the toughest part i feel until I reach any metal stuff. Ok man any other info u run across , hit me up, Keep keepin on!

 

Getting about 6 hrs of sleep per night with working out daily...only thing that really takes the edge off. Cold sweats and goosebumps in the summer are annoying but bareable. Its been seven days again. I heard the PAWS can last a little while, so im just hanging on and telling myself i deserve it! good luck bottle.

 

Bro, I dont think luck is going to play a part with this one. After doing a two check on where im at on a per day basis, Im much closer to 6mg/day than below 4mg. No way i can afford to jump there. In the shape im in right now that could easily hospitalize me, and that surely would be no fun! All I can do is get another script and push myself to get on a plan to get below 1mg/day, just more fuckin frustration in the world of Opiates.!

 

Ya i would deff advise getting as low as possible. Take however long it takes, your body will know. Don't try to rush it, its a long road but you can do it bottle.

 

Ok, this is the place I was lookin for. I've been usin heroin for 17 yrs and have kicked twice for not long. I'm now going through it on day 2 after using some very good quality. My last run has been over 10 yrs and I'm not doin hot. I keep getting bad thoughts in my head that'd I'd never act on. That w/ the no sleep, upset stomach, vomiting etc. drivers me crazy. I have no pills, nothing to help ( I don't want them). I just hate feeling like this knowing if I picked up it would stop. Any non-drug solutions would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

Well at the time I wrote that, I was going to run out probably 3 days from now, so i drove down to FL and got a script 90 8mg Subtex, the 90 will last alot longer than the 30 days, Id say 4-5 months and I dont see why I can get low enough to get off, I want to be less than 1mg/day and even less than that, but after talking to my Sub Dr. today, you hear about people who who jump from 3-4-5mgs and are only sick for a few days so I asked him about this.
Unlike most Sub Drs, This Dr. actually does provide real counsiling and has years of it behind him and has seen pretty much all of it so hes been there done that. He told me that the average Opiate user who jumps on Subs and weens down to 6 or 4mgs, hears all this "YOU MUST GET MUCH LOWER, and has effctively wired his brain into believing that the withdrawals are going to be terrible becuase every good opiate user knows about half lives and that Subs have a very long half life and having dealt with withdawals from opiates, some pretty bad, automatically believes Subs are going to be much worse. Hearing guys jump from 4-8MGs and only being sick for 3-5 days which is similar to opiates, he told me the mind makes it alot worse. Guess it kinda makes sense. Now that i have plenty i will ween down to as low as possible, and then off!

 

One of the closest states of hell on earth one can imagine. With daily longterm use of any strong opiate agent (heroin, oxycodone, hydromorphone, fentanyl etc...) day 1 will usually be more mental than physical. You will feel anxiety the likes of which one might get before having surgery while wide awake. All thoughts become tinged dark, memories start twisting around, panic may or may not set in. I call this part, "psychcocannibalism" because its as if your mind turns on you (which it actually does as the formerly oversuppied opiate receptors vacate). Any sleep you get is loaded with nightmares, and not normal ones; they're different, worse, can't be shaken off. The cravings for opiates is overwhelming. Many people need to be locked away in a facility as the pain is too intense to handle alone and many will go use to reverse the withdrawal. I've had it so bad as to shit myself, laying in my own vomit, legs kicking spasticlly just begging for mercy. Everything hurts by day 2. The wind hitting your skin induces pain. There is absolutely no way to be comfortable and for me the moisture and color drains from the world leaving nothing but flat, grey agony. You'll shake, shiver and sweat, convulse, vomit and shit liquid, you'll lose all control of your mind, you'll become so weak that just standing takes massive effort. SLOWLY, after what may only be 3-5 days (though It will feel like months of longer) it will all begin to dissipate as your mind begins producing its own natural endorphins again. The weakness, insomnia and nightmares persist longest, and the cravings of course. You may not get any "real"/restful sleep for over a week and the nightmares have stuck with me for literally over a decade (they're not dreams, they're.....different, sickly, not right, evil of you will). Then the boredom and depression set in. You'll be over the hell of it but you're gonna feel so low and emotionally unstable you'll wanna top yourself. This also dissipates over time, months to years though. Opiate addiction is no joke. It's a lifelong fight. The withdrawal I've described applies to short acting drugs like heroin. Long acting ones like Methadone take MUCH longer to kick and cold turkey is in my opinion not even a viable option, unless you don't mind staying awake for 8 weeks straight.

 

Damn, that sounds rougher than I ever had it, but I guess my level of addiction isn't as severe as that. I've posted a few times before about my use of Gabapentin (Neurontin) to alleviate wd's, but the topics inevitably sink to the bottom. Yeah, about 2800-3200mg of Gabapentin per day eliminated about 80% of the wd experience for me. It was an amazing day when I discovered that.