opiate lounge

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by la Principessa, Nov 14, 2009.

  1. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    I had a really cool opioid experience yesterday. I finally got some time away from my Grandparents and I decided to go to Gulfport Mississippi and go to their beach. It was gore gorgeous since they totally redid the town after Katrina wiped if off the map (it was more severely damaged than New Orleans). So there are miles of palm trees lining a paved walkway along miles of bright white, clean sandy beaches on the Gulf of Mexico.

    How the water isn't that clear because there is a barrier island off shore that stirs up silt, but it is incredibly clean. So I took 4 mg of Suboxone upon arrival and for an hour and a half, listened to music while sun tanning. Then, when really high, I got into the water and just sat down where it was only a foot deep and just sat there for forty five minutes in the sun while the small waves lapped up on my face and hair.

    It was incredibly relaxing considering the water was like 80 degrees and that I was high on an opioid. I probably will never forget such a calming beautiful memory! I let the high wear off while sun tanning and then got some coffee in downtown and drove back to Madison, MS (about three hours north of the Gulf).

    Great Day!
     
  2. VikeyMikey

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    That sounds incredible, etkearne. I feel that most of us - including myself - don't really maximize their opiate experience often enough. Many times I find myself dosing and then simply spending time on the internet doing the same thing I always do. This needs to change for you are a good example of someone who really knows how to amplify and broaden the opiate experience.

    I am wasting a lot of very good drugs doing a lot of very ordinary activities. This needs to change

    btw, I really hope to get to get out to the GoM one day soon for a vacation. The area is indeed beautiful and I want to see it up close. It's also just amazing how ravaged the area has been over the last few years with Katrina then followed with the BP spill.

    Anyway, nice post.
     
  3. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    I definitely agree that most of us don't maximize our opioid experiences. I know back when I would just take them like once a week for my migraines, I would sit back, make a special playlist, light candles, etc., but once I started taking them daily, I just took them and did whatever mundane thing that needed to be done.

    I STILL waste a lot of opioid time because I have the habit of surfing the web on my iPad while dissolving my Suboxone and waiting for it to peak. But often, I will get really in-to researching something online and just keep that up and never kick bass and enjoy the mild high.

    But I will say that MOST days now (and this wasnt always true) I set aside a special hour and a half where I will turn off the tv, not surf the web, make my environmental surrounding very relaxing, and recline in a chair or couch and listen to a pre-made playlist that reflects my mood for the day. It is hard to do this when life is so busy. You have to really fight your mind to just focus on the music and the high and NOT just think about your daily troubles.

    I find it takes twenty to thirty minutes to clear my mind and really start to enjoy the PRESENT MOMENT. In fact, there is almost nothing different between what I do and meditating. The only difference is that a yogi or whatever would not use a drug, but whatever...I am no yogi. I am my own person.
     
  4. hahaha04

    hahaha04 Whatevers Clever

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    Etkearne, i would like to quickly thank you for your accurate and very personal yet informative posts all over HF. I often read your posts and admire you for a lot of the work you put into them. Sounds like you had a great day at the beach. I do like the Gulf of Mexico having been to quite a few places all around the coast.

    As for me, had a pretty good day off of work today, I spent some time with a couple friends i dont get to see as often as i would like to, smoked quite a bit of bud, went out to eat, and then watched The Hunger Games with a friend. Got home about an hour ago and shot some pretty sweet dope i picked up. First time using any kind of opiate in at least a month and two weeks, maybe more. Feeling really high at the moment, just smoked a cig and rolling a approx .5g joint, probably wont smoke tonight though. but an option.
     
  5. hydropersistant

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    No offense but this post is kinda bull shit. I have tried EVERTHING! To help with my back pain. Including phisical theropy, chiropractor, a slew of non narcotic meds, heating pads, cold packs, massages, EVERYTHING BASICALLY! And nothing had even came close to helping with the level my pain is at. I get so fucking tired of hearing shit like this from people on the Internet. You have no idea the pain that people like me and happydude go through everyday. I bet it's easy to say nobody needs to REALLY be on pain meds when a damn chiropractor and accupuncture acctually worked for YOU! I have tried everything besides accupuncture and I have a huge phobia of needles so that shit isn't happening. PAIN IS DIFFERENT FOR EACH INDIVIGUAL!!!! You can't say that not a single person on this site really needs to be on pain meds when you have no idea of all our conditions. And whats amazing is you use them to you even admitted. WOW!
     
  6. stoner oxy80

    stoner oxy80 *"Senior~Stoned~Member"*

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    hey porkchop made my first step today.
    well finally seen the doc today 300$ for the vist 51$ for 2 weeks of suboxone film strips. got a 50$ off coupon for the strips can use it once a month for 12 months 100$ for the next vist and subs will cost 102$ since i used my coupon for the month. then with the vist to doc and meds next month should be about 250$ each month, cheaper and legal compared to the 700$ on dope last month. BUT the doc was,nt to happy with my piss there was more in there than i though, came up postive for cocaine, meth, benzos, weed, herion of course. the meth, and benzos i had no idea about goes to show ya never know what your shit is cut with. but because of my other depression and anx. problems, he wants me to go to mental health and get more meds and counsling. ahhh it took me over 100,000 and 15 years to get the way i am, it,s not going to be cheap or easy to get back to normal if i ever get there. thanks for listing to me whine take care all.
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  7. peaceman7000

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    Poppy seed tea. Honestly I prefer cannabis to opiates but I am a very curious person who likes to experiment
     
  8. hahaha04

    hahaha04 Whatevers Clever

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    Got a sweeeeet nod going right now
     
  9. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    Now that my Agmatine is back in my system, lowering my tolerance by the day, I am having very INTENSE experiences on Suboxone on low doses again.

    Today, for example, I took two Agmatine capsules, then two hours later, sublingually dissolved 2 mg of Suboxone Film. It hit me like a moving freight train. I felt incredible (and in fact, still feel the effects pretty strongly 5 hours later...) and I am glad that I am having these experiences once again!

    Tolerance is an evil concept! But at least modern science can help correct it.
     
  10. stoner oxy80

    stoner oxy80 *"Senior~Stoned~Member"*

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    6 mgs of suboxne film, n i,m wasted noding n puked once holy hell. first day without herion feeling good.
     
  11. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    Keep up the good work. My advice is to order up some Agmatine right now, because as soon as you build a tolerance to Suboxone and it doesn't give you a slight high anymore, you will "miss" being high too much and go back to the old ways.
     
  12. happydude_60

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    Wish I could get some agmatine.
     
  13. hahaha04

    hahaha04 Whatevers Clever

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    Ahhhhh my opiates are wearing off a little bit now, really sucks, went back to surgeon today and he said that tomorrow is going to be the worst day for the pain and then after everything should begin to be normal again.

    SO tempted to get some dope,but made a promise to myself that i would not. Stick with my prescribed meds and the last 30mg roxi i will be able to get.
     
  14. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    They sell it on Amazon.com. It is just a dietary supplement. There are no psychoactive effects. The reason it works is because it is one of the few non-psychoactive NMDA antagonists. The reason a tolerance builds is because the neurons in the VTA and Nucleus Accumbens "learn" or long-term-potentiate that you will take opioids daily and thus, they know to not release as much Dopamine as they once did.

    The way long-term-potentiation works is through the Glutamate transmitter on G-Coupled Protein Glutamate receptors, also known as the NMDA receptors. Thus, by hijacking the NMDA receptor and shutting it off temporarily, it is essentially as though your brain "forgets" about the whole opioid thing. The current best way to hijack the receptor is through use of NMDA antagonists. However, most have dissociative psychoactive properties. However a few, like Agmatine and Memantine (Namenda - an Alzheimer's Drug), are non-psychoactive but still quite potent at the receptor.
     
  15. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    so without that would you not get the opiate 'high' after taking subs for this long?


    a friend has been taking Tylenol 3's for his back pain... I assumed he had them from a doctor since they're super easy to get, but apparently he's been buying them from a 'friend' and I think paying almost $10/pill... I told him that a gram of weed and a some naproxen would probably do a better job for $10
     
  16. hahaha04

    hahaha04 Whatevers Clever

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    Ya agreed man, depending on the severity of his back pain, if T3s are alleviating it then i dont know how serious it can be. Also in Canada, like in the UK and other places, cant you get codeine in small doses OTC? Id choose bud over T3s anyday.
     
  17. happydude_60

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    So basically parts of your brain become accustomed to regular opiate use and down-regulates dopamine release. Well what happens in withdrawal then?
     
  18. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    yeah we can. you can get Tylenol 1's which have 8mg of codeine (30mg in a T3), 15mg caffeine, 300mg acetaminophen. cheap too, like $12-15 for a bottle of 200 of them. i told him he should just buy those and take 3 of them with a joint.
     
  19. hahaha04

    hahaha04 Whatevers Clever

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    Ya, i am originally from England and that is similar to what they have there. If you get SO many (200) for that pretty cheap price why doesnt your buddy CWE then apap so he can take higher dose of codeine. Ive done CWE a couple times, its ok but still codeine is not to great.

    Ate the last of my opiates from my surgery today... :(
     
  20. stoner oxy80

    stoner oxy80 *"Senior~Stoned~Member"*

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    i,ll have to order some, def. seems worth it. thanks
    just took 2mgs this mor. at 5;30 just took another 2mgs now got some yard work to do insted of drinkin like normal.
     

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