opiate lounge

I've been around...just been spreading out in the forums a bit. I've been hanging around Psychedelics lately..

 

About oxy withdrawels I would say wait 2-3 days, I find my body twitching and then getting worse, where i can't sleep and my partner thinks i'm having seizures, but part of the W/D, so I'd wait, but I'm on around 100mg of oxy and other opiates, just be careful and takes a sh!t load of time to reduce your tolerance. Also just tapering off in the minimal amounts would help get off, unless you plan to stay on, then try to only increase slowly, and use alcohol to make the same oxy dose stronger, rather than straight oxy and more, building tolerance faster. But eh, anyways I would recommend staying away from it, but God, it is far too good to not touch.. The Forbidden Apple in my case..

 

I know how you feel! W/d's are the worst way the human body can feel. Sucks

 

I kicked opiates 5 years ago. But did it with Suboxone which is still an opiate but doesn't get me high. It is not a fast process but it worked. I hear there is now this new drug it's a shot you take and supposedly your good to go, no withdrawals. But very expensive and I'm not sure your mental aspect could recover that fast. Can't remember the name of that "maricle drug". Anyone know the name?

 

heroin?

 

I believe it's called Naltrexone, and they give it to you intravenously while under anesthesia. Supposedly it will detox you in one hour. I'm not sure why exactly you have to be under anesthesia during the process. But anyway, supposedly you're clean in an hour and have no withdrawals. I looked at one site that advertized it, and the cost was $8700.

 

Naltrexone is simply an opiod receptor antagonist. It reverses the effects of any present opioids. The theory behind this form of getting clean is that it will displace any and all opioids from your opioid receptors immediately, allowing your brain to 'normalize.'

However, pharmacologically speaking, there are some MAJOR issues with it.

1.) It addresses nothing about the psychological cravings. Sure, you will not have your opioid receptors occupied by an opioid agonist, but you will miss the high. It isn't as though it takes away cravings!

2.) The 'theory' is that, if the Naltrexone is taken as a maintenance medication, it will UP-REGULATE your brain's severely, severely damaged opioid receptors. BUT, this could take at least a year or so because of how DOWN-regulated an addict's opioid receptors are.

So, basically, they will get you clean for a cool 10 grand, send you home, and you will have around a 95% chance of relapsing within the following month. It seems to be a money-making scam if you ask me.

To date, the following are the 'best' ways to get off of ABUSING opiods:

1. Methadone - an opioid full agonist that lasts for over 12 hours. It not only suppresses withdrawal symptoms, but it suppresses cravings and provides a high to a degree.

2. Suboxone - an opioid partial agonist that lasts even longer. It suppresses w/d symptoms and works MILDLY to suppress cravings even though the 'high' is more of a 'glow' type of feeling.

3. Craving Reduction - there are some medications that can actually reduce drug cravings. However, none are FDA approved as of now. The Ibogaine extract contains an NMDA antagonist which some say helps cravings. There is also various GABA-B receptor agonists which supposedly suppress cravings.

 

To get off oxy, I used.. OXY haha, but seriously, I did before pains came back so bad.. Anyways I was addicted to a smallish dose 80mg oxycontins usually crushed and or snorted, sometimes smoked, had RLS and all that terrible W/D shit, but realized taking a percocet would kill the cravings and w/d symptoms (mostly.. but still would shake some in bed, but part of the fight is mental, can't be high when trying not to get high anymore) anyways 10-20mg for my 80mg oxycodone addiction worked great, and having percs taking two to replace the one OC pill was also psychological, to take two pills just as big as the one, but with a quarter of the strength. Just fighting your MIND to not take them to feel good is the killer. Anyways now I'm back on them regularly at 160mg a day 2 pills usually at the same time Oxycontin brand, so they have that new time release formula, but helps to not be a junkie about it anymore, just feeling a light warm rush and a whole lot of pain killing haha Though I will consider that shot, because when I do want to get off. I go straight edge if possible, or very little opiates (minimal) when needing, and if this can do it in an hour, might be a life saver. But.. w/d are about a week or two.. Shot is about 4-6 weeks worth of pay.. hmm.
Sorry got that good opiate ramble going on.

 

Hey, I know your pain, man. Been there and done that. Man, it's like a roller-coaster in an insane carnival. When your script first comes in, it's awesome. Then day by day you see the bottle becoming emptier, and you start worrying about running out. Then you're at the point where you have to ration them to make them last, and just take enough to keep the beast away, but not get high. And yeah, it is a battle with the mind to not just go ahead and take enough to get high, even though you may run out early. That's a battle I've lost more than I've won, I have to admit. But, the cure has been right in front of me for 5 years and I didn't know it. Gabapentin. I've had a prescription for it for 5 years for neuropathy. When you take the normal dose, it does nothing for wd symptoms. But if you double the dose it pretty much eliminates withdrawal symptoms, at least it did for me. It really wears you out, taking that much, but damn it's better than suffering for 7-10 days. It's a blessing.

 

SO damn itchy, had some FIRE dope today, and i mean fire hehe.

 

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"Gabbies" like nuerontin? If so, I have that, and should keep that in mind. I've like you said lost a lot of battles, but in the retrospective point I've seem to keep a lid on the euphoria finding so you could say overall in my 4-5 years of abuse.. addiction.. I mean dependency or just those other silly meaningless words doctors use to keep a class suit away. But I'm usually very conservative with my meds, if I don't have to take it, I won't but otherwise I get tempted with 10-20 extra a week. Though sometimes I fall and abuse that priviledge, took me down a dark road, for when that bottle did empty out in a week or less, was shitty. Anyways now I may have some 'fun' once a month or so, but try not to, and all this talk really helps, keep it as a hobby rather than a death wish. So thanks everyone for comments, love and hate all being shared makes this place great! :bobby:

 

I have an exciting opioid adventure coming up this Wednesday. It is supposed to be in the mid 60s and completely clear and sunny. So I am going to the beach, which will either be Lewes Beach or Fenwick Island (both on the Atlantic in Delaware) , for the day.

I just simply plan on sitting in the sand and soaking up the sun (yes, despite what people tend to think, you can get quite a good tan as early as Late February here in the Mid Atlantic) for hours on end. I have done this once before (two summers ago in my Tramadol binge days) and it still remains one of my favorite memories.

After the beach, I plan on walking around the local little towns and getting some good local food before driving home after the Suboxone wears off.

 

That sounds pretty amazing, though I like to go to a forest area, with some morphine and or oxy, as I just clear the area with maybe 80-100mg of oxy in my blood, get a fire safely started, with lots of water set aside, and all sorts of arranged foods. But if you want to see what me and my group really do in detail you can continue on reading, maybe give you a couple ideas, though we do this for nearly a week..

Then I start the morphine doses, anywhere from 60-120mg then followed every hour by either 30-60mg keeping it going for about 4-5 hours, fall asleep by the 3rd hour, wake up an hour or so later, wander around my camp, and drink as much water as I can, usually not much though. Then just play and mess around with friends, in our tent, which we usually bring lots of pillows and sofa mattresses to comfort the ground. We also set up a plywood board on 4-6 cots and make a star gazing bed, to avoid snakes or anything, which luckily almost never show, and pass a nice doobie, maybe smoke a cig, and continue the morphine doses again.
We usually keep alcohol, red bulls, water and a few sandwhiches in a couple ice chests around the camp. With glow sticks hung from surrounding shrubbery and foilage so we don't get lost, and have a safe place to use the restroom if needed. Us guys have a piss tree, and girls either bring a portable potty thing, or we clear an area for cleanliness, privacy and safety.
Though mainly morphine, hydro/oxymorphone is usually the main choice for a very calm and relaxing time under the stars and fresh air. We also have plenty of benzo's (xanax, klonopin, temaz..), Relaxers (cardisipol/etc..), uppers (methylin/dextro..), medical cannabis of at least one sativa, hybrid and indica but try to get 1-3 different types from each and at least 1 hybrid, and plenty of antihistamines haha (claritin, benadrly, zyrtec) since a few of us have light allergies, we like it to be very comfortable.
We are always trying to make these kind of trips very relaxing and get as many ideas together, as it started with mattresses and opiates/alcohol, then moved to other substances, different types and strengths, no judgement on anyone for taking a lot less than others, and just a fun enviroment. We usually have 2-3 tents, one for sleep, another for fun (tvs, or red lights ;]) and try to get another one just in case we have extra people, or just want to spread people out so the heat disperses. Last time this was done was maybe a year ago, so your trip is inspiring me to push my group to makea 3rd star gazing trip.
I'll be stocked up on dilaudid, oxycon, methylin, concerta, Temazapam, Klonopin, Xanax, Flexeril, Soma, Vicodin, trojans (haha),Methadone, Fentanyl, maybe 8 75mcg patches and a couple 25mcg for dessert haha. Though if anyone would like to suggest something that could enhance this pleasureable trip of a lifetime, as we try to make it better and better every time we do it. We will have a silent generator, and solar panels to charge 3-4 laptops, and a 26" lcd with a ps3 for movies and/or games. We have propane heaters and a couple of portable water filters for a nearby stream to be cleansed. As stated before matresses and pillows, fluffy and warm blankets. A couple of speakers to play music from a siriusxm radio.
It's like MOST the comforts of home in the great outdoors, near a stream, 1km from a lake, and about 25 miles from the road, long hike, but that's what the ATVs are for, bringing in our gear, but we walk the way to enjoy the opiates and nature. Alcohol is usually kept to Belvedere Vodka, and Jameson Whiskey, with coke, few juices. No BEER, too much weight for so little alcohol haha. SO if you want to do something like this, always designate a sober, or most sober patron for security detail (i.e. authorites, as everything is usually scripted, from cannabis to pills, and only over 21 drink., keep a wepon of some sort for bears, though I've never even seen a bear track around, and in case some crazy dude comes at us..) So just beware of snakes, racoons and anything else that may suck.
We also leave all jealousy, anger and past relationships at the parking lot. And continue on as a small community of love, peace and pleasure, from substances entering our bodies, and from our bodies entering well you get the point haha. Anyways if you know what we can do to make the great outdoors more awesome let me know, because I'll probably do this somewhere in the summer or early fall. If you want some ideas for your own awesome camp out let me know, and I'll suggest a few things if I can =] (also make sure if you have a weapon, it is legal, and legal to have in that area. Especially if traveling to a different state/region/county or even city, also check with medical cannabis laws, as some states don't accept it, I.e. Cali allows it, Nevada doesn't and that's the neighboring state..)

 

Hi guys! I'm new to the opiate lounge and just wanted to say high! I just left another site that was all about opiates and the people there are all pretentious ass holes who thought they were better than you if you didn't shoot oxy or heroin all day. The whole site was just getting very negative and I found this site and liked the laid back attitude much more than where I was at. They seemed to think that if you don't IV your drugs you have no idea what your talking about even if you have used opiates for the better part of a decade. I like the scene here much more and I'm happy to be here. Y'all have a groovy day. My hydrocodone and morphine will assure that I do.

 

after 2 days of wds broke down n got me a bundel of some stamp bags. 2 and a half bags through out the evening, feelin good noddin but not ready for bed.

 

welcome fellow opiate lover, u will find no harm here other than assholes who dont use opiates who wander in and buts balls.........again welcome!!!!!!!

 

Thank you porkchop! It's nice to meet you. The HF seems to be much more positive than what I was used to which is a nice change. I'm happy to be here. What opiates do you use regularly porkchop?

 

hey nice to meet ya hydro.me i,m a dope grower n smoker, but i eat a few vic tens a day, and some stamp bags on the weekends. no needels for me though only sniffin. how bout yourself? and welcome to the hip fourms.

 

im on oxycodone soma and nerd,s 4 times a day for pain most days are allgood then comes the dam pill flu lol but i like my medical pot better in the long run

 

well........i get 4 scripts a month, lol, luckily, i get 90 opana 30s and 240roxi 15s, and the other is 90 opana 20s and 120 oxy tens, no apap......so i stay opiated, lol