OnStar

Wow, please tell me you didn't just say that, you know that you can flip the little switch on the car to unlock it.

No they can't, they have to have a reason to require it, now if they have a search warrant that may be a different story altogether, but if you say bobbys got weed they can't do shit.

Its GPS, if you call them they'll tell you whats near you, its the same as the navigation systems you can buy for cars, its just they tell you what to do, not a computer screen.

And to the original poster. If you're on someone dumb backroad, and you see a deer, swerve, and end up in a tree or something at night, wouldn't you like to know that a rescue squad is on the way, I sure as hell would. Instead of waiting, and hoping that someone may see you.

 

exactly... if you want privacy, dont get it! i wouldnt get it. but it would save lives, and some people dont have anything to be incriminated apon.

privacy is so overrated.. the only reason i care about privacy is the drugs i take. other than that, who cares? what the fuck is some government dude gonna do. in fact, if i had it, id be an exhibitionist in front of it, maybe connect a webcam

 

perhaps not you but i know of several people they would single out to bug their car

 

They can't bug your car, it's an invasion of property. Secondly, they can't use anything you say unless they have a reason to use it. Third, why will GM go through the trouble to contact local police agencies to tell them that you're talking about weed.

 

actually wart, the whole point of this issue is that in applying for onstar, you have to sign a contract and in this contract you agree to allow them to bug your car

 

Its not so much bugging your car, it's probably something more like they will listen when you call or your airbag deploys. In their privacy statement, they say this:

Q: If I'm not talking with an OnStar Advisor, or an Advisor and a third party conferenced in at my request, does OnStar monitor conversations in my car?
A: It is not possible for OnStar advisors to monitor car occupant conversations without notice to the occupants. When a voice connection is established with your car, a light flashes, there is a ring, and the radio mutes. Even if requested, it is not possible for OnStar to override this functionality. In addition, a voice connection is normally audible through the stereo speakers, and cars programmed with text display capabilities can see an indicator of a connection to OnStar on the driver's instrument panel. Moreover, OnStar's policy requires Advisors to announce their presence immediately upon establishing a voice connection.

 

Regardless of what GM claims, the OnStar system not only CAN be used as a "bug"; it HAS BEEN.

http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200312/msg00109.html

http://tonyrogers.com/news/onstar.htm

http://www.refuseandresist.org/article-print.php?aid=1190

Of course they deny this because it would hurt sales.

Yes, a federal appeals court told the FBI that it would not be allowed to do it again. But the legal reasoning behind that decision wasn't anything like "invasion of privacy" or "lack of a warrant for a wiretap".

It was because while the FBI listened in, the OnStar system was unavailable for the driver to use voluntarily or in case of an emergency. In other words, the government surveillance caused a breach of BUSINESS CONTRACT between OnStar and the subscriber.

Interfering with big business is unacceptable, but listening in on your private conversations is A-OK with the government.

BTW, the OnStar system can be "upgraded" so that the interference between the functions is eliminated on future models, clearing the way for the feds to listen in at will....

 

But the FBI isn't going through Onstar for that feature, they use their own computers to tap in. That still doesn't change the fact that they have to have a warrant to use that in court.

 

GM = Worst auto's on the planet.

nuff said.

 

Or not, everyone has an opinion, yours is no more special than mine, and GM is my favorite auto maker.

 

I'm not even gonna argue...

 

Thats good because you can't make a valid argument with opinion

 

Agree'd

 

Here is EXCELLENT reading on this!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x962149


THEY CAN LISTEN TO YOU WITHOUT YOU EVEN KNOWING!!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlPoGp1W324"]Mc Chris Onstar - YouTube