One Ultimate Question

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Mr. WigglyFace, Dec 29, 2009.

  1. inthydreams911

    inthydreams911 Senior Member

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    You got it backwards, knowledge wouldn't be possible without love. A state of love is what the whole universe is evolving towards. The whole system is evolving because of love, it is that drive to reach that state of perfect balance, perfect synergy, that state is called love! Knowledge is a product of this evolutionary process. Love is the reason we keep going forward.
     
  2. Mr. WigglyFace

    Mr. WigglyFace Member

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    although that does make sense you have to think what would we have without knowledge? no medicine no cures no cars no knowledge of how to fully sustain human life. love is just as important if not more important because like you said its that drive to understand each other.
     
  3. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    Ok, and what the FUCK would we have without love? NOTHING!



    Are people just going to raise children because they feel like it? Come on guys, dont be retards.
     
  4. yellowcab

    yellowcab Fresh baked

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    I dont think one can exist without the other. If you chose love, is it love when you dont know what love is? Knowledge would be meaningless without love, you would live a empty existance. Everyone loves someone.
     
  5. Goober328

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    Yes on love. The Bible indicates that love is the best of all Spiritual Gifts. Knowledge is a function of the soul. Love is a function of the Spirit. The Spirit (Holy Ghost) will also give knowledge/wisdom to those who ask The Father in Jesus Name.

    Goober
     
  6. Geprodis

    Geprodis Member

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    Well the question is silly. Now, if there were an ultimate choice between knowledge (LSD) and love (MDMA) - MDMA can go to hell and never come back.



    I think infinite knowledge would lead to infinite love but not the other way around.
     
  7. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    How would infinite knowledge lead to infinite love? I think infinite knowledge would lead to floor lock.


    And why would you represent LSD as knowledge? LSD is the ultimate love drug bro, it goes deeper than you think. But love and knowledge go hand in hand.
     
  8. moosemoose

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    Because nothing is possible without love.
     
  9. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    :thanks:
     
  10. SweetEmotion

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    I would say love because with love this planet would not be the shit hole it is today.
     
  11. DeadHead723

    DeadHead723 Senior Member

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    i think this really sums it up. especially from my experiences with lsd, ive learned that love is singlehandedly the greatest thing to ever happen in my life. i could care less about knowledge after feeling that great feeling of love.:deadxmas:
     
  12. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    perhaps this aint the most politically correct example to use. (dont shoot me) but when i think of having knowledge without love i think of a machine or robot. when i think of love without knowledge i think of someone with severe downs syndrome...(i know...tsk tsk) but dammit, those guys are all heart, and their happy. id rather be human than robot anyday.
     
  13. Geprodis

    Geprodis Member

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    The love comes after the clarity.
     
  14. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    Exactly thats why its so great because you feel the love loooong after you have came down.
     
  15. DeadHead723

    DeadHead723 Senior Member

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    damn. keep them coming :D
     
  16. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    All organisms that have at least one sense can acquire knowledge. But love requires a brain and specific brain chemicals that make you able to feel love. All organisms with a brain have at least one sense so they all acquire knowledge. So you must have the ability to acquire knowledge to feel love.
     
  17. Mr. WigglyFace

    Mr. WigglyFace Member

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    that does make sense , but compared to humans i think most other animals would find it hard to develop cures or mechanically build machines. To me they are both soo significantly important i cant just choose one. And by the above poster representing LSD as knowledge and MDMA as love that makes complete sense to me. i mean LSD is partially known for enlightenment , while MDMA is known as the love drug i believe?
     
  18. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    i dont think that is true. theres alot of new and amazing research out about the heart these days. check out http://www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart.html
    the heart has its own neurological system that acts independently of the brain, communicates with the brain, and influences the brain. we can say that the heart has a mind of its own.

    a few profound quotes from various articles on this page...

    "After extensive research, one of the early pioneers in neurocardiology, Dr. J. Andrew Armour, introduced the concept of a functional "heart brain" in 1991. His work revealed that the heart has a complex intrinsic nervous system that is sufficiently sophisticated to qualify as a "little brain" in its own right. The heart’s brain is an intricate network of several types of neurons, neurotransmitters, proteins and support cells like those found in the brain proper. Its elaborate circuitry enables it to act independently of the cranial brain – to learn, remember, and even feel and sense."

    "The heart has its own intrinsic nervous system that operates and processes information independently of the brain or nervous system. This is what allows a heart transplant to work: Normally, the heart communicates with the brain via nerve fibers running through the vagus nerve and the spinal column. In a heart transplant, these nerve connections do not reconnect for an extended period of time, if at all; however, the transplanted heart is able to function in its new host through the capacity of its intact, intrinsic nervous system. "



    "Traditionally, the study of communication pathways between the "head" and heart has been approached from a rather one-sided perspective, with scientists focusing primarily on the heart’s responses to the brain’s commands. However, we have now learned that communication between the heart and brain is actually a dynamic, ongoing, two-way dialogue, with each organ continuously influencing the other’s function. Research has shown that the heart communicates to the brain in four major ways: neurologically (through the transmission of nerve impulses), biochemically (via hormones and neurotransmitters), biophysically (through pressure waves) and energetically (through electromagnetic field interactions). Communication along all these conduits significantly affects the brain’s activity. Moreover, our research shows that messages the heart sends the brain can also affect performance."

    "The concept of coherence is useful in understanding how physiological patterns change with the experience of different emotions. The term ’coherence’ has several related definitions, all of which are applicable to the study of human function. A common dictionary definition of the term is ’the quality of being logically integrated, consistent and intelligible,’ as in a coherent argument. In this context, thoughts and emotional states can be considered "coherent" or "incoherent." We describe positive emotions such as love or appreciation as coherent states, whereas negative feelings such as anger, anxiety or frustration are examples of incoherent states. Importantly, however, these associations are not merely metaphorical. The research studies presented in this section provide intriguing evidence that different emotions lead to measurably different degrees of coherence in the oscillatory rhythms generated by the body’s systems. "
     
  19. Mr. WigglyFace

    Mr. WigglyFace Member

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    Dang thats insane. i knew the heart had its own set of neurotransmitters but i never thought of it as a tiny brain thats cool!
     
  20. cataclysmic cognition

    cataclysmic cognition Member

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