Ok so I've tried shrooms twice and it changed my perspective for a bit.....

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  1. NumberSpot

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    but after a while all them old feelings of anxiety and depression came back.

    I had two awesome trips. They both eradicated me of my anxiety and depression for a bit. I was filled with love and I was grateful for everyone in my life. I loved life and I really thought that I could use this experience(s) to gain a better understanding of myself and finally break free from my anxiety. I've read stories of how it has changed people for the better but with me after a while all them old feelings of negativity and depression came back and it feels like shit. I've been stuck in my stubborn unchanging ways for so long that I just can't seem to let them go and shrooms felt great. So if it didn't help me permanently the first time will it never help me?
     
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    you cant change the world. you only can change yourself.

    if you allow the worlds depression to influence your own. its just going to be the same rollercoaster manic depression cycle ..

    psychedelics effect everyone differently. some may never experience highs and lows again, where others it may be magnified or get worse after tripping. You expect more from your environment. But your environment can only change if you change the way you look at the environment ..

    The only real thing that has changed after your done tripping. Is the fact the wavy, colorful warped eyeglass effect is no longer there. your mind is really the same is was before you started. Now you just know the mind can play tricks and the walls can melt and get gooey. nothing really that special has occurred unless you want to believe that..
     
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  3. NumberSpot

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    I read stories of how people become more social and all that after taking them. Since it didn't help me the first time I think I should just let all hope go of me ever changing.
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    The stories with psychedelics helping with disorders and ailments generally come from studies where individuals are given the drugs in controlled enviornments with liscened professsionals present and perhaps with a concomitant traditonal therapy as well. This is not to suggest that you cannot make headway on your own with mushrooms in regards to your anxiety and depression however It's to suggest don't expect to be cured by simply taking the drug.

    Psychedelics are most beneficial when lessons and insights from the trip are integrated into sober consciousness. If the depression and the anxiety are the main issues in which you plan to work on then I'd reccommend to be ready to type or write down some of your insights to revisit when sober, as a lot of times the epiphanies and insights brought on by Shrooms can be difficult to remember after the trip.
     
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  5. AmericanTerrorist

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    Yea I was just gonna say something similar to what GB said. You can't really expect to take mushrooms a couple times and then all the sudden any depression and/or anxiety issues just totally vanish forever. Sure, it could possibly help w that but as the previous poster stated you also have to do the work while sober/not tripping in order to achieve any lasting change. Anxiety, for example, is very-- well, to explain it... no matter whether it's panic or social anxiety or a phobia or other types... you need repetition and practice in order to learn to MANAGE the anxiety when you are in the particular situation that creates anxiety w you. If you gained things that helped while tripping, take them and apply them to basically deconditioning yourself via repetition from anxiety. (If you don't know how to do this... it's too complicated to post it all here- look up systematic desensitization).
     
  6. magic mushroom buddha

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    The last two posts are spot on.

    Would you expect to be cured of anxiety/depression by say taking Prozac just a couple of times?
    Don't think so,

    Don't expect mush to cure you of anything!

    They can help y to learn how,
    But change comes from within,
    And with mush its a gradual learning curve,

    I wouldn't over use either,
    You'll just end up like a zombie,


    TaNKs
     
  7. pensfan13

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    I had depression. Mushrooms for me at the time were just so i can see some cool shit. Never looked to get help. What did help me was advice from a guy i worked with and my mom.
    My coworker would say, i dont worry about anything i cant change. I just change what i can.
    My mom is the kind of person who never worried about money and has an additude when things are bad that "its no big deal its just a test"
    once i started thinking like that life seemed to be much more bearable.
    i know all about the people that say suck it up and stop being depressed, they just dont understand it. But if i remind myself enough that things arent really bad at all i get along just fine.
     
  8. AmericanTerrorist

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    That principle "I don't worry about anything I can't change, I just change what I can"--- is some of the best advice there is in the world. If it is followed! Meaning if someone does both parts of it. The reason that 12 step programs work for many of the people that go to them- well, one of the main reasons- is that basically that principle is the serenity prayer "God, Grant me the Serenity to Accept the Things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference".... I honestly believe even without the rest of the program---and for various other things in life, like just handling the things life throws at you (and depression/anxiety issues stemming from those life issues), if people just basically live by that principle, you can deal with absolutely ANYTHING w.out depression and anxiety.
     
  9. unfocusedanakin

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    As Budda said "change must come from within".

    Mushrooms can show you the way but you still must put in the effort to get there.
     

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