Oil Spill in the Gulf of Mexico!!!!

Such a horrible disaster. I wish I could help, but traveling way the fuck out there to volunteer on a clean up that's going to take many many months is too far from economical. If they would man up and hire people with a decent wage which they would have no problem affording, then this mess would have a far lower impact, and they would be able to keep a reputation of being a reasonably ethical company, but that seems to be the approach they are currently avoiding.

And don't let these headlines of releasing chemical dispersents into the water to break up the oil fool you. Basically all they are doing is tossing in detergents that allow the water and oil to bind together and rain poisons onto the ocean floor to kill the organisms below. All it does is make it look like there's less oil out there than there actually is.

 

I don't see why they dont pay people to do the cleanup either, like duh, fight unemployment. I mean, if all we can do is go about destroying then environment, at least pay people a wage to clean up the scummy parts of capitalism. Its so rediculous that the want people to volunteer instead of paying at leas an hourly wage. Remember the new deal? Gah. I'd go do the stuff if I wouldnt be scrounging around in a dumpster at night just to eat, and sleeping under a park bench. Talk about creating jobs, then ask for volunteers for EVERYTHING. JESSUS FUCK. Rant complete. god Im tired of being unemployed

 

I feel ya Archane. I did find some info where the states of Louisiana and Florida are hiring for crews paying $10 an hour. I would sign up and go for that if I didn't have to travel across the country just to turn in an application to maybe get hired on. Pretty crappy deal, they are obviously not too worried about cleaning up the disaster with how little opportunity they are allowing for people to get out there and get to work on the clean up.

 

In 1989 the wage for the Exxon spill was $16.69 for the basic rock scrubber, they got room and board and free meals. Now in 2010, with MUCH higher cost of living and inflation and everything else, all they are offering is $10 an hour. I cant believe this shit. The highest they go is $18/hour for supervisor positions, and you dont even get a roof over your head. This country and economy is so fucked UP! Jeesus. I seriously dont get it.

 

In Alaska they needed to pay the high wages to get people to travel there because there was a shortage of people living there to hire from, then they needed to provide the room & board to the people who traveled there to work. Around the gulf coast there's no shortage of people desperate to make a buck, and of course they're taking advantage of it.

 

Yes, it's basically location and supply/demand. It takes a lot more incentive to get people to go to Alaska to clean up oil in April than it does to get people to go(or just use people already living there) Mississippi/Alabama/Louisiana in May.

 

True. Still, I wish I could go down there and get a job doing that, Im in , theres no work. I just wouldnt have a guarantee of a job or anywhere to stay. Meh, I would take my hammock, but if a hurricane hit...

 

I second that, I have been living off of ramen noodles, weed and pepsi. I've lost 15 lbs, I'm wasting away...oh well.

 

It's simple math, the more they pay you, the less BP will have. If they pay a decent wage for this, their CEO may have to compromise his standard of living and learn to live on less than $100 million next year. We certainly wouldn't want that.

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I bets theres isnt even any paying jobs cleaning up the oil...

 

Will it last forever? Will all of the oceans eventually end up full of oil?

They'll never plug it. They are just hoping to catch some of it so that they can sell that portion of it.

At least 15% or more will still gush out in to the ocean. Forever. They have no plans to stop it completely. They can't. And They are not even trying to. Or planning to.

Talk about that one! Don't talk about cleanup went it's never going to end, dudes. In 2040 it will still be dumping 300,000 gallons a day.

You clean 5 gallons of oil up in a day. It dumps 300,000 gallons in a day. Hey even if you flunked math like I did, you should still be able to get the picture. You are trying to build a sand castle on the beach while a tsunami coming at you. Right?

It's our job to put it out there to everyone on our e-mail lists and to everyone in the world that BP will never stop it. They don't know how to.


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Scorpio Kenny

 

ok, i've just read that the junk shot attempt failed. i'm scared.
first off, if some of you thinks i am nuts, well there are some good odds that you're right. but most of the things around us nowadays don't make much sense either. like drilling enormous oil deposits under three miles of water and rock and a hell of a pressure, to name one. this people at BP and in each damned oil company of the world never thought about the real consequences of a disaster of this size and how to prevent it. or how to fix it they simply don't care . they didn't have a plan for this , hence all the circus of lame ass ideas we all watched during the last month, like solvents, steel domes, crap injections , prayers, dances, fireworks, atomic blasts etc. and they know they're not going to pay for real for this kind of shit. oops, i just killed an entire slice of the globe. my bad. next time i'll pay more attention. the simple fact that the dipshits at BP weren't able to cope with this is evidence of a criminal carelessness and the reason is that if you don't fear the punishment you won't obey the rule.

i just want to say this: we have been told that the morning before the fatal blast there was a serious issue. something did not pass a security test but it was ignored nevertheless and this led to the disaster. well, i think that the very first thing to do now, together with plugging in some way that fucking hole, is to discover WHO was the ASSHOLE IN CHARGE who could order to stop the merry-go-round and fix the damn thing , but didn't. find him, or more probably them, and rip his goddam head off and spear it on an oil well as a terrifying warning for those who in the future will have similar temptations to destroy our world for money. i think that surviving as a species and refraining from turning our planet in a deadly cesspool of poisons are, well, kind of a priority, even for those who live with a revolver on the desk waiting for the right time to blow their brains off. i'd be glad to surrender my bike, computer, light bulbs and refrigerator in change of my good ol'planet but it looks like we are supposed to stay comfortably sit in our oil-, nuclear-fueled homes until the incoming toxic doomsday. or this means that i have to start by myself selling everything i own and retiring in the rural commune waiting for the rest of the world to follow. or that i have to start blasting power lines and stuff ? lately, everytime I hear of this and other pollution disasters i feel like i just heard that a dear relative of mine was murdered, and in this i think i am fucking right. they're snuffing our mom, just plain this, for money.
p.s. now i bet a lot of people will start empathizing with the Somali fishermen and will understand how came that all of a sudden they deliberated to resort to piracy to earn a living.
Buccaneers of Louisiana assaulting BP tankers. ha.

 

Just thinking about this makes me sad and angry and depressed all at once I havent seen the news, but was under the impression they would not know if it worked for a few days. I just cant wrap my head around the huge size of this disaster and if they dont plug it, I just cant think about the ramifications starting with oceans and ending where?

 

With all the outrage (rightly) directed at BP for their mishandling of this most recent disaster, many are clamoring even more for eco-friendly alternative fuels and materials that do not require oil. I think we, as advocates, can turn this disaster into an opportunity; I know this sounds horribly callous, but it is what we have to do in order to win and affect real change. We need to harness the backlash against oil, and the best way to do it, in my mind, is to push people in favor of legalized hemp farming...

Huh?

This sounds like a bit of a stoned leap, but bear with me. Oil is used as a base for a lot of products, gasoline being the biggest and most obvious and plastics coming in a close second. Hemp is an alternative to both of these uses of oil. Now, I don’t think that hemp could completely replace oil as a base simply due to the limited amount of land available to farm and the competing uses of hemp (paper, clothing, food, etc.), but it would be yet another tool to at least reduce the demand for oil. Hemp biodiesel makes sense, and, according to this site is usable in most diesel engines with little to no modification (just like vegetable oil-based fuels), and burns much cleaner than traditional diesel…but hemp plastic? Yes, hemp is so versatile, it can even be made into a plastic, with one company even selling hemp scales, grinders, and CD/DVD cases. So clearly, hemp can be a viable alternative to oil-based products, so what’s next?

I’ll leave this question to you readers in the comments. Do you think it is appropriate to channel the anger over this oil spill (or, more accurately, oil leak) to help reignite hemp farming in the US ? Will it be an effective argument, to government, to law enforcement, and to the hundreds of thousands of people looking for better ways to make the products that allow us modern life? Can we really get hemp farming re-legalized alongside (or even before) the female cannabis plants?

 

Thats a great idea, kind of making lemonade when life hands you lemons. It will be a very effective argument if this thing keeps gushing for a few more months. A very eco friendly alternatives to the crude tit. Lets try and get this going!

 

When your kids are covered in oil, you'll wish you choose hemp..

 

hemp is not the only plant that can provide biomass fuels and beside this there are varieties making excellent fiber and oil but very little psychoactive stuff . and beside this, we can't just substitute mineral oil with green oil . I believe strongly, religiously that the only way out of this crisis is sparing war money and using it to pump like hell the research on cost effective, ecosustainable ways to take advantage of sun power. nokia corp. is developing nanotube technologies to create next generation, cheap solar cells suitable for large mass production.

but we are still sticking to oil and atomic plants, and this means that we are heading right into self destruction without a second thought, also thanks to Obama who painted himself green and rainbow before being elected and now supports wars and advocates nuclear and maybe, this week coal power plants too, like in china.

 

Yeah, it was on the news here in Spain as well this morning that the latest plugging attempt had failed.

 

I cant smoke a solar cell . der..

 

Some people were saying that the top kill would fail because of the pressure from the leak. It seems they were right. Some believe the huge pressure of the deep is pushing down on the sea floor, and sqeezing the oil deposit like a gigantic zit. One site i visited said that the ocean floor has dropped three feet around the drill area since the accident began. And they fear the loss in pressure inside the deposit could result in a collapse of the sea floor, releasing all the oil.

I like the hemp idea, but where could it be grown safely. Even if it were legalized, people would still try to steel it all. lol

You would have to have 24 hour armed guards with permission to kill.

Maybe we could turn Canada into a giant greenhouse surrounded by armed guards.