Oh my F**king Gawd!!!!!!!!!!

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  1. DoktorAtomik

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    There's also a female orifice known as a ****. If I call you a ****, it wouldn't be with the intention of comparing you to a muff. The term 'faggot' when used as a derisory term is referencing homosexuality, and implying that homosexuality is in some way a cause for scorn. It's really not that complicated.
     
  2. Smartie.uk

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    oh mr.doc mr.doc.. we are all aware that used in the context i used it it would probably come across as a derogatory term for homosexuals... but there was really no need to nit pick at terminology.. it was your ridiculous nit picking which spawn my rediculous reply... in my world where i call my homosexual friends massive faggots and they don't get offended; i forget that the rest of the world has this "don't offend me"/ "p.c" chip on their shoulder... maybe i should have thought more carfully about my terminology.. in fact no fuck that.. i'll used what ever terminology i like.. not my fault the world is breeding oversensative morons.
    any way i'd like to meet a NAZI faggot.. his life must be really fucked up.
     
  3. DoktorAtomik

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    So clearly, it was inappropriate.

    There's nothing 'nit picking' about politely pointing out that a particular term is considered offensive by a large number of people.

    Quite right too. I've calle gay friends all sorts of names, and they know I'm not a homophobe so they know I'm just fuckin' with 'em. That's not the same thing as a public forum though. You weren't calling a gay friend faggot, you were using the term to describe Nazis, thus perpetuating the concept of homosexuality as a negative characteristic - ie, an insult to use against someone. "You're gay", "you're a faggot", "you fucking queer".

    Oh grow the fuck up. Many gay people live their entire lives dealing with homophobic shit, and god only knows what it must be like for them to see people using terminology that describes their sexuality as an insult. Refraining from using such terms is not political correctness, it's sensitivty and compassion.

    No, it isn't, but you're certainly adding to the insensitive prick count.
     
  4. Smartie.uk

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    thats ok.. i dont mind being an insenative prick... rather insensative than over sensative.. taking offence at a whimsical statement... if i had said... i hate homosexuals i think they are poo.. then ok.. beat me with a large stick and call me a homophobe... but im not going to vet my text on the off chance that i may offend someone.. in that case i could never write capitalists are wankers... and i dont see anyone getting offended but you.. and as far as i know your not homosexual.. so whats the deal here mr.
     
  5. DoktorAtomik

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    Way to go. That should help make the world a better place, he?

    You wanna talk about over sensitive? I politely pointed out that the word faggot was considered to be an offensive term, and you've leapt to the conclusion that I was personally offended and outraged, when all I was trying to do was encourage a little more consideration in your choice of words. Now that's over sensitive.

    I don't remember calling you a homophobe.

    I'm not black, either, but I'd have something to say if you started using terms like ****** and coon.

    It's really, really not that complicated. Words like faggot are intentionally derogatory terms for homosexuals. Using the word fagot to describe a straight person in a derogatory fashion suggests that homosexuality is something to be ashamed of, and therefore suitable as an insult. This perpetuates negative attitudes towards homosexuality. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. You can choose to ignore it if you like, but that just makes you arrogant and insensitive. Try thinking about it a little.
     
  6. Smartie.uk

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    im sorry doc.. you win.. i'm so naughty.. i should wash my mouth out with soap and water.. or is that offensive to all the poor crusties that dont like soap.
     
  7. DoktorAtomik

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    No, that's fine. I accept your apology :)
     
  8. Claire

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    faggot (FOOD)

    noun {C usually plural} UK


    a ball of meat mixed with bread and herbs, which is fried or cooked in sauce

    http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary/faggot+(food)
     
  9. Paul

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    Ironically the word fascist originates from the latin term for a bundle of sticks used as a political symbol in ancient Rome. If the word faggot also means a bundle of sticks then calling someone a Nazi Faggot is akin to calling them a Nazi Fascist :)
     
  10. DoktorAtomik

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    What's your point?

    nig·ger
    Pronunciation: 'ni-g&r
    Function: noun
    Etymology: alteration of earlier neger, from Middle French negre, from Spanish or Portuguese negro, from negro black, from Latin niger
    3 : a member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons

    Does that mean if I call black people niggers then it's not offensive? Are you seriously suggesting that in this context, smartie was using the term faggot to refer to someone as a meat ball?
     
  11. Claire

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    I was showing the other definition, nothing more, nothing less... stop getting paranoid :rolleyes:
     
  12. DoktorAtomik

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    I was born paranoid! Or hang on.... did it only start after all those funny fags the hippies made me smoke...... :eek:
     
  13. Smartie.uk

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    heres an interesting thought.. it seems that whenever a derogatory word is "discomunicated" another pops up to take its place.. am i to then assume that if we choose to vet our speach accordingly.. eventually we will be back to speaking in uggs and errs
     
  14. matthew

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    Dok's i find your use of n***** offensive, because clearly the way smartie used the term 'faggot' was in a just the way that is being explained...Every time some stupid word is spoken you, you plonker picks up on it 'Is plonker allowed'.You always have to bring up some deeply engrained, socialy dispicable words that shares no comparison at all.

    Two pages Dok' two whole pages proving fuck all. ..are you proud of yourself.

    He was calling the BNP Natzi faggots.. and clearly you may have a point in another context..but realy argueing the toss when we are talking about the BNP is strange. Why not defend them in the not calling them 'natzis'.. i am sure you could.


    Most of the BNP are faggots dok' big shirt lifting moustache wearing faggots.
     
  15. DoktorAtomik

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    Hardly. Nobody's suggesting there's any problem with using the word 'faggot'. The problem only arises when you use it as a derogatory term.
     
  16. DoktorAtomik

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    You just don't get it, do you? The problem is not using the word 'faggot' or calling Nazis names. The problem is the implication that homosexuality is something to be ashamed of, or something negative. It's like if I called someone a fucking queer.... it would clearly imply that being gay is something offensive. That's the problem.
     
  17. DoktorAtomik

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    PS. Off to enjoy my weekend now. Please bicker amongst yourselves.
     
  18. matthew

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    I do Dok'.. obliterating the english language of offensive words is a good thing. Be a little reasonable though, most people don't share your haste in doing so. In highlighting one word and then mentioning two others with out even ***** them proves what ?. I don't realy question your intention , but you do make it over personal and go ott.
     
  19. matthew

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    You started it ..as bloody usual...yeah we can continue to call the BNP faggots ..great.
     
  20. Smartie.uk

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    bunch of nazi faggots:eek:

    oo i'm soo naughty.. actually being this naughty klinda gets me hot...

    hotter than a fat man in a kitchen...
    shit i cant even call fat people fat... coz its derogatory:p
     

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