Occupy Wall Street Movement Spreads Across the World!

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/19/business/greece-austerity-strikes/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

Although not related to the actual Wall st movement, the issues are the same, and the will shown is awesome....

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2011/10/2011101916158299272.html

A two month march!

 

Had to find it.. love carlin;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brp_7XHuS0E"]you have no choice, you have owners - YouTube

 

This is a focused complaint: how are the issues the same? The matter at owning property is clearly to be resolved and who pays for it: and how much it cost? The highway is also needed to be paid for, which would be common property.

 

That’s why picket lines exist. I agree it would be difficult to stage a sit-in in the lobby of your local Fidelity Investments office. Picket lines are outside the building, and the people stay in motion to avoid being accused of loitering. They’re non-violent but effective. For example, if your local grocery goes on strike, a picket line forms in front, not inside, the store. Those protesting say nothing, talk to no one, don’t discourage those who cross the line, but may pass out flyers. Right or wrong, the simple presence of the picket line intimidates and discourages people from entering and business declines. Workers (i.e., “scabs”) are branded if they don’t honor the line. Protesting quietly and peacefully in front of a bank, investment institution, etc. would have the same, non-violent effect.

I agree with your comment, but this is also why I feel the cause is unfocused. If you go to the “Occupy” web site, www.occupywallst.org, you’ll find the following statement:

Occupy Wall Street is a people powered movement that began on September 17, 2011 in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District, and has spread to over 100 cities in the United States and actions in over 1,500 cities globally. #OWS is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations.The movement is inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt, Tunisia, Spain, Greece, Italy and the UK, and aims to expose how the richest 1% of people who are writing the rules of the global economy are imposing an agenda of neoliberalism and economic inequality that is foreclosing our future.

The “democratic process” is government, but that’s been lost in all the drama. Government has allowed Wall St. to dictate their policies and is just as “evil” for what has happened as are the financial institutions. Let’s face it, no matter how noble a polician appears during his/her campaign, their real agenda is not to better the community, the state, or the country. Their agenda is to get re-elected. Shriveling and bowing to corporate whims brings high-dollar donations to the campaign war chests. It happens on both sides of the aisle, not just one party. Government would be better if the positions were voluntary or part-time. That’s how it was at the time the country was founded. There were no career politicians.

There’s also a website, www.workingamerica.org/Occupy, which should not be confused with the one cited above. The latter is an AFL-CIO site and is trying to push the Union agenda. In other words, they’re trying to use the “Occupy” movement to push their own cause. Everybody has an angle to use others’efforts to promote their own agenda.

 

I love you, babe. History with and without the working class. Texas is coming back.

 

They also get rich when their spouses and family members get corporate board positions and high paying positions and other forms of nepotism This keeps the lawmaker under their thumb. My senators spouse sat on three different corporate boards. She had never held a real job before that. The heat got to much for him and he didn't even run last term. Fuckin theif. Take the money and run.

 

Can you name any other organization for workers that give a shit about them? I'm so sick of the negativity towards workers unions. Take that away too. Then we will all be working 80 hrs a week for minimum wage.
Corporations and Republicans hate unions and are trying desperately to outlaw them. You know why? Because they collectively bargain. They are a true democratic institution that uses their numbers to get government to listen to them. The lone worker cant do anything. Their one lone vote isn't worth shit. But a block of votes can make change and results that benefit the worker and their family and the middle class as a whole. The Chinese outlaw unions. They know the power of assembly and workers collective voice. The unions are the only power workers and the middle class have against the corporate millions influencing our government. They aren't perfect. They have problems but what organization made up by people doesn't? What's the alternative?

 

Surely, you have seen the marches and the union pickets by those in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street.

 

A people's union? One that isn't focused on a single industry or segment of population....

As unions get together and collectively bargain FOR THEIR members... the rest of society pays the cost.

The issues they deal with are good things for their members... I have never had a problem agreeing with that (even with the corruption at the top)...

You want to improve workers wages? Raise the minimum wage... When you have a segment (such as the auto workers) that bargain for their own wages, the costs of those wages, put everyone else further in the hole.

There are union members walking around pushing a broom that make 3 or 4 times more money then a person working as a waitress or general (non-unionized) laborer.

Issues such as health and saftey are the same thing... its wonderful to help protect workers safety... wouldn't it be better to promote it for everyone as opposed to just for specific unionized jobs?

 

Mostly I see college kids.

 

Hmmm....well then, all I can say is do a little more research.

 

Not anymore. Janitor work, along with office/clerical work, is outsourced now. A lot of reclassification of jobs happened. TARP mandated major changes that the unions and companies had to accept. UAW workers are only making auto parts and assembling vehicles.

 

Really? That was the part you want to talk about.... replace the specific occupations with what you want....

The point of it was that unions that are exclusive (ie, industry specific) are not good things for all of society, they are good for their members only and actually pretty harsh on the rest...

If when they fought for wage standards and such, they were fighting across the board for minimum wage increases, then they would be good...

But they do not.

 

The fuckin server site keeps crashing on me FUCCCCK! I have to make fast short posts.
People need to be organizing and calling union reps to their work place. In Europe most all industries are union or they have laws protecting workers. HEll, in the US you can be fired w/out cause.

 

Union benefits and wages tend to flow down to nonunion jobs. Not at as great of rate but they do. That's one reason why Republicans and corporations hate unions. Unions set standards.

 

What? Like a Consumer Protection Agency? Ask Elisabeth Warren about that debacle given by Obama.
I'm all for a one worker union as long as it has teeth. The only way to get change or fairness is by threat of strike. I dont trust corporations. They are compassionless and shameless.

 

So let me see if I got this right... the trickle down from the rich to the middle class isnt enough... but the trickle down from the middle class to the poor is?

Guess which one of those groups has been starving the longest?

 

All I can say is people who feel they are not being treated right need to call a union rep. and talk about organizing. I always like this slogan I saw at auto plants. "Together we bargain. Alone we beg".
Any organization ran by humans will not be perfect. Corruption sucks but its nothing like the corruption from corporations. Corruption anywhere needs be punished. Something lacking in todays pro-business laws.