Occupy Wall Street Movement Spreads Across the World!

i dont mean left or right.i mean you have you guys out on the streets and then you have the people who think thats the wrong way to do it and the ones who think youre after the wrong things

.im hearing socialist when OWS is mentioned.i dont understand what that means.ive never gotten involved with anything to do with politics.i cant see any sense in voting for the same thing in a different package.


i know im wording things wrong.im not very good at putting thoughts into words.

i give credit to those of you that are out there :2thumbsup:

 

Its not really about having a plan. I said this either earlier in this thread or in a similiar thread, I can't remember which - It is not the peoples' responsibility to create public policy. It is our job to ensure that the policy created by the government best serves the interest of the American people.

A 700 billion dollar bail out could never in a million years pass right now because the eyes of the nation, thanks in part to the Occupy protests, are on the government. Corporate corruption in government can no longer go unnoticed. Public pressure holds a lot of sway. The government has been able to get away with a lot the last few years because no one had the balls to stand up and say anything about it. These protests aren't about coming out with a concrete plan to change policy; its about letting the government know that we're watching them and we want them to serve the people rather than corporations.

 

Socialism is basically monopoly capitalism in the hands of the state, which today is owned by the big banks and multinational corporations. Most of the protesters are leftists calling for the government to take a bigger role in reigning in big business. But how can that happen when the government works for these massive corporations? The system LOVES the big government policies the left champions, because it gives more power to the system as a whole. This entails government, finance, big business, etc... all of which exist as one single entity.

All this bullshit about corporate tyranny vs. government is pure BULLSHIT!!! Tyranny is tyranny, period!! There is no line of demarcation between state and corporate tyranny, because the state and the corporations are one and the same.

The overwhelming majority of the protesters are protesting tired cliches like capitalism while supporting socialism, which is a product of the same bogus monetary system. The ultimate problem lies with money and how its created. Greed is only a symptom of the problem when you have a handful of families that have control over the money supply, who are able to print that money out of nothing and determine its value, loaning that money to governments and people at interest creating debt which, like money IS NOT REAL yet is used to control the world.

I will begin to consider taking the OWS protesters seriously when more than at least half of them stop supporting pro-NWO policies and expose the real power structure. Shut the fuck up about greed and capitalism, because those are petty, mindless diversions.

 

Nobody I have talked to thinks the government should a bigger role in reigning in big business, we want big business out of government period. And we are definitely not championing bigger government. What most of us want is total transparency in government. Like I said support us or not it makes no difference, but do not complain your opinion was not heard.

 

why bother if there isnt a plan?there needs to be a plan.to achieve the desired results you need to have a course of action.

this is a forum to have my voice heard in?im voicing my opinions,thoughts,concerns and issues i think need to be figured out.but im being jumped over it.how do you expect this to work if we cant come to some agreements here?

 

say you succeed and get the 1% out of the government.now what?


gonna leave the crooked fucks in there?or start fresh from the ground up the way it was meant to be?

depending on the answer to that question,how do we keep the 1% from getting back in somehow?you know they are going to try if this is succesful.

exactly who is the 1%.give names,if we are gonna fight them we probably should know who they are?i feel you need to go right to the top.

 

The 1% is Forbes 400.

 

All these questions are the reason I attend general assembly. We are seeking answers and feedback from people as I said everyone is invited to listen or speak. I think you have been given more than reasonable arguments as to why you should attend if you dont think so stay home and let it pass you by.

 

unfortunately this is the only way for me to attend.

 

Then if you wish to attend virtual discussions about the movement and add your questions and perhaps solutions, try to look up sites such as 'occupy together' or google 'what is the plan' and watch the video that may explain somethings to you. If you wish to continue to participate the forums in 'what is he plan' will be able to answer most if not all of your questions.

 

with the different view points that ive seen in the last 2 days i am a little more concerned about this turning ugly.i feel it could do so and do it very quickly.win or lose they still make money off of it.

 

thank you

 

we hung in there and now we have permission from the Rev to be here, for now so we are a legal camp in the City of London... we ae still trying to set up decent generators so we can charge our phones etc... i had to come home to charge mine last night and i had a much needed hot soak... the atmosphere is real nice still... im so busy working there, i missed the rev thing and i missed Julian Assange's short appearance and speech... word is, it seemed a ittle staged... but i cant really comment bcos i didn't see it... time will tell, no doubt.. i was interviewed by reuters yesterday, and i told them that they better not twist what i said in any way or i would make a statement to that effect... they seemed surprised that i didn't trust Reuters and promised that if my piece was published it would be as is and no twisting... so, again, time will tell... we are all aware that this is just the beginning and that we are prob already infiltrated... there is a core group left of about 200 now, but it is swelling and when the donations online was set up we received £1000 in the first half hour!!!!! the people are definitely behind us on this... passers-by also stopped to thank us for what we are doing...

right, must get on :sunny:

 

+no more compound interest because that allone is 100% auto- destructive for a monetary system.

we need a stable monetary system which doesnt allow people to make more money out of nothing than money

we have the examples of centuries of more or less succesfull monetary systems to be able to choose and design a monetary system that is stable.

 

a site that forces you to join just to read it isnt gonna help.im not joining just so i can read.dont need another website tracking my online activities.

 

Sound like you guys are getting a great start, I love the community support and am happy to see your also enjoying it across the pond as well. As far as infiltrators go, just keep everything transparent, having nothing to hide is our greatest defense against spys. Thanks for your efforts.

 

Seriously man, you sound like a whining little bitch....

You want everyone else to tell you why you should do this and join in, you want everyone to make it so you get everything handed to you with no effort on your part.

The questions you have asked, a lot of us know the answers to because WE CHOOSE to be a part of this...

You want to be convinced to join?

Fuck that shit...

 

Does anybody know how the protest is going in Charlotte? There is nothing about it in the online edition of the newspaper this morning, which can't be a good sign. With a priority-one target like the Bank of America corporate headquarters downtown, there should have been enough activity down there this weekend for the press to notice.

BoA shouldn't get to hide from public wrath just because their main building isn't in New York City. No bank has done more to damage the American economy and culture.

I drove to Asheville this weekend, and I kind of wish I had gone to Charlotte instead. The atmosphere in the little triangular park downtown was not too much different from usual. Just a little more crowded. Somebody in Asheville is almost always in the mood to protest something, and that park is where they always hang out. People are so used to seeing it that they barely glance when they drive by. I'm not saying it's ever a bad thing for anyone to support the national Occupy movement in their own town, but...if you know Asheville, you know exactly what I'm talking about, and I don't need to say any more.

If I lived in Asheville, I think I would be making plans to get a group together next weekend and ride down to Charlotte. The crowd there needs to get big enough to make people pay attention.

Couldn't have said it better myself, Meliai. Nobody ever knows what the economy is going to be like four years down the road. Students can't be held responsible for knowing that when they start college.

What some people seem to want is to go back to the world that my great-grandparents were born into. Back then, in the rural South, only the richest 1% sent their kids to college. The rest accepted the fact that they had nothing to look forward to in life except a lot of hard work, when they were lucky enough to have work, and extremely basic living conditions. Nobody dared attempt to borrow any money for anything because nobody had any idea if they could pay it back or not.

If we (the bottom 99%) let anyone turn back the clock to those times again, and we don't even lift a finger to fight it, then we are all stupid spoiled brats and deserve whatever we get.

Wouldn't the Wall Street insiders love to be able to make a rule that no one can protest anything unless you have come up with a perfect solution that addresses every part of the issue? They would be off the hook forever. Fortunately, they don't get to make that rule.

Only time will tell if that will become necessary.

The public never has unlimited tolerance of anything, anywhere. There are always limits. When leaders ignore that simple truth, they deserve whatever they get.

I guess you know this is all going to take a long time to play itself out. There are going to be many twists and turns down the road.