Oby!!!! Take down this health care site!!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by RIPTIDE59, Oct 5, 2013.

  1. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    Its hard to hear the truth isn't it?
     
  2. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    the only people that are signing up for this is lower middle class to poverty stricken people, not exactly a hot bed for identity theft.
    i think the reason that there are so many hackers if that is the case is because its a horrible plan and even the hackers are pissed off about it.
     
  3. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    If this system only attracts lower middle and poorer folks ; why is it so costly?
    Seriously, the gold package can run from $800-$1000/mo. Is barry doing anyone but insurance Co.'s a favor?
     
  4. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    Gold package was still cheaper than my private plan was, and for what my family needed coverage wise.

    Also I believe in some cases the higher class plans (Gold, Platinum), the lower deductibles are, but premiums are higher. Also more types of medical stuffs/treatments/drugs are covered the higher you go.
     
  5. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    i thought this was the whole reason you were against obyscare. but yeah we all are the ones footing the bill.
     
  6. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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  7. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I am seeing lots of reports now from people who got thru the website and have gotten coverage significantly less expensive than what they had before.
     
  8. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    And, where exactly , are you seeing that sun? I'm actually hearing getting into the site is a major accomplishment. I'm also noticing that oby himself has not self enrolled in his own ACA. Interesting.
     
  9. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    As has been stated multiple times already, he is not enrolling because he receives health care through his job. You know, as the president?
     
  10. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    the state of california is insisting on giving me free health care. cause i stopped working.
    oh yeah, i HAVE to get something, according to them. looks like i'm going to go for some major catastrophe coverage and forget about the rest of it, i have a local doc that costs me less in cash than the bullshit employer "provided" insurance i had for 20+years.

    doesn't that just boil your blood RIP ? fucken socialism.
     
  11. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    Gotcha. So ACA is inferior? He does not choose his program. Oh , OK. What about Congress and a built in 72% subsidy? We don't get that either. And what about you ? Eggsprog? Being Canadian , what makes you an expert on ACA?

    Ah, Voyage, and what is it that "entitles" you to "free" health care? LOL. Perhaps you too , are one of the "annointed ones"
     
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    this is what I get every fucking time. obama. fuck you..
     
  13. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    You don't have to get insurance through the Affordable care Act, that is only one option. You are legally free to get a better deal elsewhere. Congress gets health care as one of its job perks, same as any job that provides some type of health care. We can't help it if your job doesn't provide health care equal to or better than Congress gets.
     
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    get a blow job get free heath care.. ;O

    O OO O OOO bamma fuck u.
     
  15. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    That's such an elitist arguement. These people make draconian edicts then exempt themselves. From both the standpoint of the elitist public servant and the idealogue ; you are at best intellectually dishonest and perhaps disengenuious.

    How has Katy Sebelius escaped with her job? How many people have enrolled? Many states are reporting single digit sign ups. As of 10-17-13 , the state of Delaware has had one enrollment. Enforcement of fines? Hardly. The good news ; it's gonna take a year for total ramifications to set in. Socialized medicine? No, not hardly , more like socialized insurance. I'm just imagining the "perfect storm" of illegal immigration and obyscare. Plan accordingly. Stay healthy.
     
  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    How do you figure? Lots of private jobs provided health care, why shouldn't the government? If you want good people you have to pay well and provide good perks..at least that's what all the top people in private industry tell us. Why should a government worker be poor? What is the rational for that?

    I don't know. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
     
  17. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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  18. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Hospitals must now make efforts to identify low-income patients eligible for financial aid before using legal action to collect debt, reporting debt to consumer credit bureaus, or selling unpaid bills to debt-collection companies or they may loose their non profit tax breaks.

    This follows Congressional and state attorney general inquiries into bill collection by non profit hospitals from patients who are least able to pay. It is a provision that was put into place to protect patients.
     
  19. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    We discussed allowing the government to enter the market as a competitor. That scares me. Currently , you MUST buy insurance. oby's edict. I would love to have a government edict telling folks to buy my product. So , you see, they are one step away from racketeering. Ah, in cidently, government employees are are far from impoverished. Really?

    Will we still have to pay the fine if the site remains "down"?
     
  20. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    No.
     
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