Obama to arm Syrian rebels

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  1. odonII

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    Not quite what I meant. Are you advocating the U.S gives all the surplus to the Syrian rebels - even considering the logistical considerations. I thought you were opposed to arming the rebels - obviously not.
     
  2. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    No, I'm not for arming the rebels, or for any war. I just find it moronic that my government would destroy $7 billion worth of war machine, and then turn around and give the rebels more war machine, which will cost us taxpayers even more money. Instead of "in God we trust" on our money, it should read, "bend over and crack a smile". But of course, in America God is money.
     
  3. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvwUTpMLGKg"]Generation Kill - Ray's Theory - YouTube
     
  4. odonII

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    Your government has not destroyed $7 billion worth of equipment.
    If you look at the thread you started it is unclear what they are actually going to do with it all.
    Already $11 million has been 'retrieved' in a month - which does not seem like anywhere near the amount likely to be sent to Syria.
     
  5. outthere2

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    ^yep. today's good guys are tomorrow's terrorists:

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    Private industry is about profit, profit, profit$ not justice or liberty or patriotism.
     
  6. savedbyyohimbe

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    I completely agree with with Ray's postulation. The flim Zardoz (1974) is an allegory & symbolic narrative on this very phenomenon.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbGVIdA3dx0"]Trailer for Zardoz (1974) - YouTube
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    I believe that Russia and surprisingly China, have adopted a very mature and grown up stance in regards to the Syrian crises, which is more than I can say for the Anglo-American empire.:sad:
     
  7. Lifter

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    Assad rebels are shia.
     
  8. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    We do know that one half of OUR federal tax dollar goes over seas in one way or another. Why?

    We also know that barry hussain likes to set up muslim dictatorships with our $ ; much like eygypped. Time for a regime change in dc?
     
  9. planb

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    ^ Yes just antoher dangerously bad idea from barry regime
     
  10. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    You're silly. There's a reason why none of our current military interventions are called "wars".... because they're not wars. They're illegal and unconstitutional occupations!
     
  11. browning

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    we should protect ourselves. leave everybody alone until they threaten us. then nuke em off the map
     
  12. outthere2

    outthere2 Senior Member

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    ^ yes but elected representatives don't represent the best interest of the nation; they're internationalists who represent the best interest of the multi-national corporation and themselves personally.
     
  13. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    I also want to say (for anyone who think it may be a good idea to arm Syria) The biggest fighting group in Syria, is affiliated with Al Qaeda
     
  14. outthere2

    outthere2 Senior Member

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    I'd say these guys would call it good:

    List of United States defense contractors

    / Acutronic
    Accenture Ltd.
    Action Target
    ADT Corporation
    Advatech Pacific, Inc
    Aerojet
    Aerospace Corporation
    Aerovironment
    Advanced Armament Corporation (AAC)
    Advanced Integrated Systems
    AECOM
    Aegis Defense Services
    Aimpoint
    AirScan
    Airtronic USA
    Aivea Corporation
    Allen Vanguard
    Alliant Techsystems
    / Allied Container Systems
    AM General Corporation
    American Dynamics Flight Systems
    American Ordnance LLC
    American Petroleum Institute
    Analysis, Computing & Engineering Solutions, Inc. (ACES, Inc.)
    Antonov Airlines
    Applied Research Associates Inc.
    Arcturus-UAV
    ARINC
    Argon ST
    ArmorSource
    ArmorWorks
    Artis LLC
    ASSETT, Inc.
    Astronautics Corporation of America
    Aurora Flight Sciences
    AV-Optimal Defense Consultancy Service
    AVX Aircraft Company
    BAE Systems plc BAE Systems Inc.
    BAE Systems Land and Armaments
    BAE Systems Electronics, Intelligence & Support
    Land Systems OMC

    Ball Corporation Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp.

    Barrett Firearms Manufacturing
    Battelle Memorial Institute
    Bechtel Corporation
    Benelli USA
    Berico Technologies
    / BDM Corporation
    Blazeware Inc.
    Black Knight Technology Inc.
    Boecore
    Boeing Company Boeing Sikorsky Comanche Team
    Boeing SVS
    McDonnell Douglas
    Insitu

    Booz Allen Hamilton
    Boston Dynamics
    British Nuclear Fuels Limited
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    Carlyle Group
    Carnegie Mellon University
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    Charles Stark Draper Laboratory
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    Infotech Aerospace Services (a Pratt & Whitney joint venture)
    Insight Technology
    Institute for Defense Analyses
    Intelsat
    International Resources Group
    iRobot
    Israeli Aerospace Industries
    Israeli Military Industries
    ITT Exelis
    ITT Research Institute
    Jacobs Engineering Group Inc.
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    Brashear
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    M9 Defense Systems
    MacGregor Group (part of Cargotec corporation)
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    ManTech International
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    Maytag Aircraft Corporation
    // MBDA
    McQ Inc
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    MITRE Corporation; also see ANSER Institute for Homeland Security
    Mitsubishi
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    Northrop Grumman Information Technologies
    Northrop Grumman Integrated Systems
    Northrop Grumman Mission Systems
    Northrop Grumman Ship Systems
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    Para-Ordnance
    Perot Systems
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    / SimplexGrinnell, LP
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    York Executive Operations

    Multi-national corporations get real representation; ordinary people get what's good for them.
     
  15. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    I know that's true. Our government is a Crime monopoly, in which some of the most corrupt people can use whatever violent means they'd like, to increase their profit.

    That's why Liberals who demand "More taxes" and "More Government," really worry me.

    The government (Like the EPA, FDA etc) is one huge business; Created specifically to give certain corperations special benefits, while putting their competitors out of business. (Even keeping smaller businesses down.)

    If you don't believe me, take for example how the CEO of Monsanto also was the President of the "Food and drug administration" which is supposed to "protect" us from dangerous foods.

    Sadly, it's like I said; a corrupt business. At face value, it appears the government has the consent of the governed. However, in my opinion, if the people knew what they have done, and do on a daily basis, everyone except communist would lose faith immediately!
     
  16. outthere2

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    So multi-national corporations are getting US government representation and making profit too!
     
  17. SuperXX

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    I wonder could they stop helping other killing each other and mind own business?
     
  18. outthere2

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    They're not driven by a sense of fairness. The personal profit of its investors is all that matters to the corporations that rule over us.
     
  19. odonII

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    How do you know?
     
  20. outthere2

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    It should be obvious to all but the most obtuse among us.
     

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