obama - business as usual, the end of the dream

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by guy, Mar 28, 2009.

  1. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Regarding the mandatory insurance requirement--it's plain wrong to require people to pay insurance companies in the first place. They should go the way of 8 track tapes & asbestos. Universal should be mandatory.
     
  2. JackFlash

    JackFlash Senior Member

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    I'm right there with you, but we have to work with what would pass amid the angry mob breaking windows, hurling insults, spitting and making death threats.

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  3. djdude

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    LOL, Jack, are your eyes green? Just curious.

    Don't have time before work today to address everything in your brilliant attempt to hijack this thread, so here goes ...

    Tea Parties do not call themselves "Tea Baggers", they did not coin the term "to teabag". That's sexual slang that existed long before they came along. You know damn well it's an insult, yet still you are a balless wonder refusing to admit it.

    Yes, don't buy health insurance, refuse to pay the fine and see what happens. The IRS is not in the habit of leaving people alone when their attempts at collection are rebuffed. Guess you weren't smart enough to follow the logic.

    My problem is I don't want the government demanding, AT THE POINT OF A GUN, that I help anyone. They take my money, via taxes, fees, fines, etc. and redistribute it any way they see fit. Mostly they satisfy special interests and buy votes (via entitlements). They are creating a permanent underclass of helpless entitlement junkies. Generation after generation. Entitlements don't work. And the people who get them see no need to work.

    You seriously ask what freedoms we have lost. What a moron. Start with the freedom to spend our money they way we see fit. The income tax was originally sold as a "temporary" fix. Now it's a permanent institution run by corrupt, career politicians.

    Ok, here's another. Try smoking a joint in front of a cop. You aren't assaulting anyone, stealing, do anything against anyone other than, arguably, yourself. Yet you will experience an immediate loss of freedom.

    You are correct ... your opinion of yourself will always trump my opinion of you. Denial is a terrible thing, try getting real with yourself.

    BTW, I'm a vet too. Former marine. I tried the VA, if that's the future of health care in this country we are all in serious trouble.

    Let's boil this hijack down to:

    You are a whiney, self-righteous, bitter socialist asshole who feels that anyone who doesn't agree with your twisted view of being humane is wrong. You believe the government, if run by leftists, is benign and benevolent and should be our mama and papa and take care of us and right all wrong. Big government is a good thing and people like the Pelosi bitch know how to run our lives better than we do.

    This amounts to a steaming pile of liberal/progressive/socialist/communist bullshit. This debate is worthless as it's too late to fix a sick puppy such as yourself. So please continue insulting people who are trying to reestablish freedom in this country while you piss on their efforts and demand that they, and everyone else, conform to your twisted inhumanity.

    Too late for you to grow up. So go fuck yourself you son-of-a-bitch.

    LOL. Now I feel better. Whine on jerk.
     
  4. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    You speak of people being morons... perhaps you should glance in the mirror...

    Let me explain this to YOU so that perhaps you can grasp what is being said...

    All your arguments of the freedoms you have lost because of Obama, just demonstrate how clueless YOU are...

    Not one single one of those examples (including your health care one) are based in either intelligence or even simple logic...

    To start with, almost all of your examples of Obama taking away your freedoms are simply just 100% pure bullshit, as nothing has changed in regards to them since Obama came into office...

    The only one of your arguments that can even come close to being laid on Obama is over health care, but even that one is total bullshit as it is no different then the government saying you need to buy car insurance or face fines and jail if you dont (or cant) pay them....

    So, I suggest before you run around screaming your head off about other people being morons that first you check to see just how much of a moron your own words are going to make you look like....
     
  5. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    i am so intrigued by teabaggers crypto-racism that i forget how homophobic you manly men are
     
  6. JackFlash

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    First I gave you a picture that should have been worth a thousand words, then I gave you a link to a thousand words, and a video to boot. I can lead you to enlightenment, but I can't make you wash off the stench of ignorance.


    You are seriously ignorant of our legal system. The IRS has nothing to do with collecting fines, that is the duty of the court that imposed the fine. And, if that did happen, you would be in jail for refusing to obey a court order, not refusing to obtain health care. Do you even know what the term "hyperbole" means?


    To start, this is more hyperbole, and a very selfish and self-centered attitude.


    Taxes have nothing to do with freedom. You have one vote like everyone else to choose the people who make the policies for which your, and my, tax dollars are spent. Everybody can name items in the government's budget they don't like. Republicans lost the last major election, get over it. The majority voted for President Obama's proposals, that's how this nation works. You're on the loosing team, that makes you the whiner. Man up, be a patriot and support the man who is the duly elected leader of this nation.

    If you're not willing to pay your fair share to run the country you're welcome to move.


    I also don't have the "freedom" to kill, steal, rape or screw 6 year old children. We do have too many senseless laws on the books, but most were the result of religious movements, not liberals. Most of these laws were passed decades ago and longer, before either of us were born.


    Again, you don't know what you're talking about. The VA system improved greatly under the Clinton Administration, slid back a bit under Bush and President Obama has made some drastic improvements. Today it's one of the best health care systems in the country.


    "liberal/progressive/socialist/communist" Pull your skirt down, your ignorance is showing.

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  7. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Basically everyone who says this is a person who's never had to be on welfare before.
     
  8. guy

    guy Senior Member

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    as an ongoing point of interest obama is still keeping the war going

    afghanistan still going

    iraq still going (obama has rebranded the war to define that comabt troops are no longer there).

    unless the american vote in large numbers to rid themselves of the parasites that keep the war going , they will have no rest from them.

    obama was a useful idiot for the parasites
     
  9. scratcho

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    I think some of us can agree that we'll never leave either Iraq or Afghanistan. We haven't even left Germany or Japan yet. New world order continues.
     
  10. guy

    guy Senior Member

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    yes....

    there are some parallels

    america gave tacit approval for saddams invasion in 1991, when his ministry rang the americans they told him they had "no opinion" about his invasion.

    why should he have believed otherwise? he had already bought millions of dollars of weapons and chemicals such as the one used against the kurds (though gas weapons were being used in the original gulf war between iraq and iran).


    before ww2 america was selling hitler all kinds of things, america seems to have fallen strangely quiet before hitler invaded poland. germany was also getting backing from jewish banks before ww2 (something you will learn if you ever go and check out the concentration camp museum at Dachau it mentions it at the very start of the exhibit in the hall where "rauchen verboten" is painted up on the wall)

    after 1991 the parallels diminish, iraq was being bombed daily by some accounts for over a decade, the RAF had run out of targets and were shooting up and bombing shepherds and their flocks for something to do. another dirty little secret was that for the RAF this was not totally new here, they were bombing the kurds in iraq around ww1 and later.

    after the invasion, unlike germany the "allies" met an ongoing resistance it has cost them a fortune, they have pulled out some combat troops but in reality they outsourced to private companies to do the work.

    obamas only legacy to america will a crippling debt (assuming that america will ever honour the debt). so much for obama. obama takes his orders from the religious fanatics that have run the country into the ground.
     
  11. JackFlash

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    Every fundamentalist I know, a lot, hates Obama, and the fanatics hate him even more. Go to their blogs and they will be happy to tell you just how much he ignores them and their issues.

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  12. Johnathon

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    It's all politics as usual!!!!! Democrat, republican or anybody else!!!!!
    Johnathon
     
  13. JackFlash

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    Wrong thread, never mind, senior moment


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