obama - business as usual, the end of the dream

good luck with your war on humanity odon

 

I see, so changing euphemisms makes it different?

Obama is no different than any other man who sold his soul to become president. Career politicians, at least the vast majority, are power addicts. Obama is no different. He wants to control your life and tell you how benevolent he is and how the government knows so much better how to use your money and of course they need to spy on you so you don't do anything to hurt yourself!

Oh, BTW, you are from Chicago. Hmmm, what big-time politician is also from Chicago?!!

Oh yeah, the current dictator.

 

Please list the freedoms you have lost since Obama has been President. All you have said here is to parrot Tea Party rhetoric without any substance at all. Just like the rest of the Tea Baggers, you have nothing intelligent to add to the debate.

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I hope you like reading these words...

 

Well, I didn't say anything about lost freedoms under Obama. But since you ask, here's a big one. I've lost the freedom to decide whether or not I want to buy health insurance. Under Obama's Health Care "Reform" bill, I HAVE TO buy health insurance. So do you. Everyone does. We have no choice. The IRS, of all entities, will be monitoring us. If we do not buy it, we can be fined and/or jailed.

I'm not Tea Party. I'm not affiliated with ANY party. I think for myself and vote as I see fit.

According to Wikipedia: To tea bag is a slang term for the act of a man placing his scrotum in the mouth of a sexual partner.

I see, so YOUR intelligent response to me is to attack and insult. Really?!!

When YOU have something intelligent to add, we can talk. Until then, you son -of-a-bitch, go fuck YOURSELF.

 

hey, and i've gained the ability to get low cost health insurance for the first time in my life

yeah, that fits . . .

 

And when they ask for lemon with their tea :ack2:


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Well'p religion to live and let die. But science is what a black man can't be doing for the direction of a Nation unless he's a liar.

Well, science, to suck the money out of the government for the deeds of non-resourceful tasks in the ideas of the good love the religious condemn us to. The religion of science being loved.

Is that a direction of National concern? It is a goal worthy of any selfish man.

 

babelfish must be broken again . . .

 

And everybody else picked up the freedom to not pay for your health care when you get sick or someone takes offense when you when you call them a "son -of-a-bitch, go fuck YOURSELF" and you end up in the E.R.

You might want to read the image in your signature line again: "vote the bastards out that are taking away your freedom"

Show me the part of the Health Care Bill that says you will be put in jail for not buying Health Insurance. I think you should, but it's not in the Bill.

Sorry, but I don't see it. Even your signature line is a compilation of quotes from others.

It's also a term Tea Party players chose for themselves early on in the movement:

I really can't take the credit for insulting you since you're the one who got insulted. At 55 you should be over that by now and should have learned to control your own emotions instead of letting others push your buttons. If you can't take criticism you might want to reconsider posting in a public forum. This is a forum for discussion and debate, and by it's very nature people disagree with each other.

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beautiful . . .

you have so much more patience than i do, i'm considering a long retreat to the reggae section

 

That's all logical, even for a selfish behaviour. No. really. One gets himself sick to go to the hospital and make sense of the right to pay for the public medical plan. It wouldn't be selfish to be satisfied with a good corporate pension plan, and a set-up to do the favours for your neighbours when they get you something back; but it would be selfish to not work for the values of capatalism when they create judgment of your work at not having to pay when you don't wanna'. That was altruism working at it's Capatalist worst.

 

I am happy with Obama, and I am not happy with our P.M. Harper; forces me to spend my time thinking in hospitals like I was an inadequate crony and cheating on the white man form various ethnic groups.

Life would be nice to just be accepted as a nice stranger as in America with it's rights of free moral judgment at religion.

 

I raised 3 children, it was learn patience or shoot myself. Many times it was a toss up. +, I've lived all but 5 years of life as a liberal atheist in the middle of the bible belt being insulted and prayed for; even had one person try to lay hands on me so god would "cure" me.

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I have friends who are Tea Partiers. That's bullshit that they choose to call themselves "tea baggers".

Again, from Wikipedia: In 2009, the Tea Party movement formed to protest new U.S. tax policies, referencing the Boston Tea Party for its name. The appellation "teabagger" emerged, prompting puns by both commentators and protesters based on its sexual connotation.[15][16] The president of the Media Research Center said that jokes made during CNN and MSNBC broadcasts were insulting.[17]

If you're going to use a backhanded insult, have the balls to admit it.

Excuse me? That makes no sense whatsoever. No one has the freedom to not pay for health care. Have you read the bill? You buy health care insurance or you will be punished by our ever-so-benevolent government. In any event, I have a job, and pay for health insurance, and pay my own debts. I don't demand handouts or feel entitled to lifelong support from the government using other people's money simply because I exist.

Yeah that's my signature you idiot not what I posted in the thread. And the freedoms I'm talking about in my sig have been drained away for a very long time.

Democrats and Republicans, they are all power addicts. Bought and paid for by special interest. Believing they know how to run your life better than you do. Fuck that.

The founders of this country were not trying to form a new aristocracy when they wrote the Constitution. They had just thrown off the shackles of an old aristocracy. I'm sure they did not envision a class of people who would become lifelong, corrupt politicians. Politicians who have sucked us dry and dismantled our freedom, bill by special interest paid for bill. If you don't know what freedoms have been lost over the years you are either being disingenuous or incredibly ignorant. That's what these bastards want, more citizens like you.

All you've done is attack me personally and use insults. You claim I have no intelligent arguments, yet you've put up none yourself. You won't even take credit for using slang to call me a cocksucker. BTW – the button pushing goes both ways. You obviously did not like being called a Son-of-a-bitch and fantasized about someone (you?) taking offense and putting me in the ER. Nice.

So if this forum is for discussion and debate, when are you going to start?

You can start by defending Obama's insistence on forcing people to pay for health insurance at the point of a gun.

Then tell my why it's a good idea we are still in Afghanistan.

Also, tell me how much better Obama handled the gulf oil spill over Bush's handling of Katrina.

Umm, how about when Obaman's buddy was arrested in Boston. I was watching the news conference where Obama said "I don't have all the facts, but the police acted stupidly". Gee, didn't have all the facts yet was rushing to judgment.

Oh, yeah, how about firing Shirley Sherrod due to his fear of what Glen Beck MIGHT SAY. LOL.

Hmm, and his hires, defend Anita Dunn saying publicly that she admired both Mother Teresa and Chairman Mao. How many millions of Chinese did Mao murder? Wasn't it about 50,000,000?

So how do you like Obama's FCC Chief seeking to redefine the internet as telecommunications so he will have more regulatory power over it?

Finally, I leave you with yet another quote from someone other than me.

Margaret Thatcher: " and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them."

Don't have time for more "debate", I've got to go to work now so I can pay for your health care (Medicare right?!!) as well as all the other entitlement junkies out there living off other people's money.

Have a nice day.

 

Nice hijacking of the thread. Of course, this would be all about you. Too bad there's really no cure for lazy stupidity.

 

really? they're gonna use guns? that sounds super-duper scary!

mother theresa killed nearly as many, i'm told, where is the outrage?

yes!!!

i suppose you prefer having a bunch of corporations fuck us in the ass

[you know, where our wallets are]

as long as they don't force us at the point of a gun, we can always just stop using the internet when it gets too pricy, vote with our feet, eh?

 

Wikipedia? and you call me lazy. (not to mention that your quote says nothing about where the term originated)
Try this one:
http://www.politicususa.com/en/olbermann-teabagger

Your statement: "If we do not buy it, we can be fined and/or jailed." Show me the part of the bill that will put you in jail for not buying health insurance. This statement is nothing more than hyperbole, it is not true.

So what's your fucking problem? Why are you so against helping relieve the suffering of those who do not have a job, are underpaid, out of work due to illness that cannot be addressed because of lack of health care, or have had their policies canceled for filing a claim. Are you a sadist, do you enjoy watching people suffer?

What a wonderful human being you must be.

Again, what freedoms have we lost. Name some. (And, watching others suffer and die from lack of health care never has been defined as a freedom in America.)

I don't disagree about "power addicts," but the government does not run my life, or yours.

Yet they did. The system we have allows corporations and the wealthy to run the affairs of this nation.

Give us a break here, our founding fathers were not saints. You are in desperate need of some history lessons, particularly in the selection of party candidates prior to the formation of primaries in which citizens actually vote. For most of our history candidates were chosen by the wealthy elite. For a good example read about the selection of Lincoln for the Republican candidate in his first election.

Since you can't list them you must be in ignorant the boat with me.

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Sorry to disappoint you, but there is nothing you can say that I would get insulted about. My opinion of myself will always trump yours.

As soon as you give me something intelligent to debate. How about let's debate the freedoms we have lost. But, first, since you brought it up, you have to name them.

There you go again with the hyperbole. How can I debate something that is a blatant lie?

Can't do that since I don't think it is a good idea.

You are kidding, right? How many people were left sitting on rooftops from the oil spill? Except from the explosion, how many people died waiting for medical care or rescue boats? And, why the hell do you care, you have a job and pay your own bills, shouldn't we let the people in the Gulf states fix their own problems? You're yelling for government to get out of our lives, yet you complain when government isn't in them enough to suit you. You need to make up your mind, do you want government to help it's citizens, or not?

Since when was that man President Obama's "buddy?" He was asked for his opinion and he gave it. He later had both men at the White House to smooth over hostilities.

President Obama did not fire Shirley Sherrod, but he did personally call her and offer the return of her position. Don't forget this was started by a Tea Party leader who posted a bald faced lie on his web site in the form of a deceptively edited video of her speech. This should prove how deceptive and dishonest the Tea Party really is.

Are you saying that Anita Dunn does not have the right to hold an opinion different from yours or the freedom to express it? Would you like to debate the merits of the First Amendment?

How do you like the potential of the unregulated internet to be used as a tool by terrorists and other nations to bring harm and chaos to America? Or are you even aware that much of our infrastructure can be destroyed and military secrets stolen with a laptop from a cave in Waziristan; or that our banking system can be brought down by a hacker.

Funny thing, our financial mess was caused by Capitalists.

No !! Veterans Health Care, a perk I earned by defending my country.

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@ djdude:

I know your head is going to explode over this one.

http://www.worldsocialism.org/articles/imagine_by_john_lennon.php

While you whine about social programs in America, you quote a man who was likely more of a socialist than Karl Marx himself.

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Those were novel ideas to communists; that people would not have to forcibly give up their work and work for the moral order of overcoming existing means of Production.

Just for the materialistic order as it is. "We're richer than we think."

John Lennon softened the communists as much as Pope John Paul II.