Obama and ACORN

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wackyiraqi, Oct 6, 2008.

  1. yarapario

    yarapario Village Elder

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    Oh Wacki, you're such a republican tool...please dig up some more crap so we can change our minds and vote for that hero john mccain.
     
  2. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    I don't know how anyone can seriously consider McCain, honestly
     
  3. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    It's more of a conflict of interest.

    This is what we know.

    1. ACORN has been convicted of Voter Registration Fraud in 14 states, and is currently under investigation.

    2. ACORN has been paid over $800,000 during this election from the Obama campaign.

    3. ACORN publicly endorses Obama for President.

    4. ACORN/Obama history that I'm not even going to get into.

    Do you think these connections are a coincidence?
     
  4. real_large

    real_large Member

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    Comment from Rep Jesse Jackson Jr. (yes, I know he has his own agenda). But he raises an interesting issue of how class has perhaps fueled some of this outrage over ACORN. If they were registering suburban Republicans, would they fall under such scrutiny?

    "Why are they after ACORN? Well, I'm sure they're going to come up with a lot of "reasons" in the coming days. But the real reason is obvious: Because ACORN, along with Project Vote, just announced that they had successfully registered 1.3 million poor people this year.
    Get that? 1.3 million, including 148,000 in Pennsylvania, 152,000 in Florida, 217,000 in Michigan, and 238,000 in Ohio. No wonder the GOP is up in arms. They're scared of too many poor people preparing to vote this year."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-jesse-jackson-jr/attacks-on-acorn-based-no_b_133657.html
     
  5. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    McCain holds an office in one of the biggest mortgage companies in America that have evicted many people from their homes.

    Coincidence?
     
  6. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    Even if I was a Republican tool, would that make these connections any less true? Any less concerning? If this were about McCain would I be a liberal tool? If this were about McCain would you then be concerned? Something tells me you would be screaming at the top of your lungs. People like you are so fucking transparent it's not even funny.

    You won't have to worry about that, there is plenty more out there. But something tells me that even if Obama himself declared he was the son of Satan, you would probably still vote for him. I know enough people like you who would sit there and defend against, make excuses, or justify any action that would attempt to discredit your savior. Pathetic.
     
  7. real_large

    real_large Member

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    Maybe that's why he has this new idea for the government to purchase (at face value, not at the grossly depreciated value) how many thousands/millions of home mortgages? If this actually came to pass, the mortgage companies would be laughing so hard they'd piss themselves.
     
  8. AT98BooBoo

    AT98BooBoo Senior Member

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    These NeoFacists never seem to mention that William Ayers was aquitted of any involvement in two NON fatal blasts which took place 40 YEARS AGO!!!! William Ayers has since been a good citizen and has been very active in education and doing what he can to make the world a better place. William Ayers was named Chicago's Citizen of the Year in 1997. The only people The Weathermen succeded in killing was some of their own people when they screwed up while building a bomb. The Weatherman were nothing more than rich brats trying to play radical revolutionary not terrorists.
     
  9. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Will Morales blew his hands off, he later escaped from The Tombs prison, NYC. by shimmying down a rope of bed linnens with the stubs from where his hands were.
     
  10. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    Again, not even a comment on the questionable connections. Blur and distract.

    If they are registering legitimate poor voters, then great. The poor deserve their right to vote just as much as the rich. But this has nothing to do with the thousands of fraudulant voters that ACORN has already been caught registering.
     
  11. real_large

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    Agreed, wacky. I submitted the article not as a JJJr fan by any means, but because I think socioeconomics are playing a role here. But when don't they? ;)
     
  12. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    Oh, that makes it okay then. I mean, these were the times right? Just some brats blowing up houses, buildings, and cars right? And they always made sure they were empty, because it was never their intention to hurt anybody, which is why many of their bombs were filled with shrapnel, which classifies them as an APD (anti-personel device). You know in combat we used to make improvised devices when necessary we called "grapeshot", which was C4 mixed with M249 belt links. It was found that belt links being propelled at thousands of feet per second were more damaging to human flesh than the procussion of the plastic by itself. In other words, it was a more effective way to maim the enemy.

    Keep making excuses.
     
  13. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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  14. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    What about Keating? He was convicted. Millions of retired Americans lost their retirement savings the last time the market crashed like this. The American economy took years to recover. Poor judgement!

    Ayers never killed anyone, he never stole anyone's life savings. He never sent this nation's economy into a recession. He was never arrested or convicted of anything. Keating was. Bonanno was a mob boss, but McCain was sorry he missed his birthday party.

    I am sick of empty war stories and explicit stories of munitions, I want to hear someone talk about the economy and family life in the US. Someone that wants to protect the workers and wage earners more than the speculators on Wall St.

    I am not making capital gains, I wonder who is and who it is needs protections from being taxed on them.
     
  15. AT98BooBoo

    AT98BooBoo Senior Member

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    What they did wasn't right but William Ayers was aquitted and has since been a good citizen. Matter fact in 1997 he was named Chicago's Citizen of the year. btw Bill Ayers pals around with plenty of Republicans.

    I wonder how many of these people that bring up Bill Ayers also sang the praises of Tim McViegh back in the day?
     
  16. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    The Keating Five. Four Democratic Senators and Senator McCain were accused of improperly interveving on behalf of Charles Keating Jr. After a lengthy investigation by the Senate Ethics Committee, McCain was exonerated of any wrong doing.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_five

    I am not arguing that McCain accepting political contributions from Keating was not inappropriate, however if we are going to compare apples to apples then lets take a look at Obama. McCain accepted these contributions from Keating almost 20 years ago, while Obama has accepted contributions from failing banks such as Fannie and Freddie, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, etc... Right now taxpayers are spending billions of dollars to bail some of these companies out, and Obama is accepting money from them now. I am more concerned about that then what McCain accepted back in the 80's.


    Do you mean like McCain who co-sponsored the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Act of 2005, which Democratic Congress shot down?
     
  17. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    Or the $800,000+ that Obama has paid ACORN during this campaign, which the Federal Electoral Commission is currently investigating, and after question, Obama admitting to falsifying Federal forms regarding these payments.
     
  18. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    So was OJ Simpson, does that make OJ any more innocent? Ayers was acquited because of illegal wiretaps. He openly admits his actions, and is proud of them.

    Why, because he does not currently carry out terrorist bombings? He is not a rehabilitated man. He shows no remorse. He has even recently publicly stated that he has no regrets and "wishes they would have done more".

    Are any of these Republicans running for President of the United States?

    I would imagine that most of the people that defend Ayers also would defend McVeigh. I'm sure they would also justify and make excuses for Palestinian suicide bombers that are protesting Jewish settlers in the West Bank, or any act of terrorism that is committed for a cause. To not do so would be hypocrisy.
     
  19. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    An acquittal means just that. The person accused was absolved of all guilt for the allegation. Get over it, and always remember Keating was convicted.
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    http://fightthesmears.com/articles/...c-search-nsw&gclid=CK3M3M-2o5YCFR8ViQodLEfE6Q

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...s-office-raided-in-voter-fraud-investigation/

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_camp_tying_obama_to_aco.php

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-matzzie/how-mccain-will-steal-the_b_133989.html

    All nothing but more McCain smear tactics. ACORN has to turn in all registrations, and they flag the ones they find that are questionable. If you plan on basing your accusations on Nevada alone, then I think we need to talk about John McCains gambling affiliations. Want to go there?

    Want to talk about Bonanno? Want to talk about Indian Gaming?

     

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