Obama Administration: We Can And Will Force Christians To Act Against Their Faith

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Dude111, Dec 30, 2012.

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  1. jaredfelix

    jaredfelix Namaste ॐ

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    Could you explain?
    You've lost all credibility by me with that statement...
     
  2. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    I simply see no reason to believe any of it. No credible reason at all.

    If he does exist, it's quite clear that he's a very evil being. Look at the world he created, the human nature he created (note that free will can exist inside any type of personality, and man could have been engineered to be inherently good, but still free), the way he created evil, he created the concept of evil, he tried to keep knowledge from man and even his lutinent saw how fucked up it was and gave man knowledge, and for that, god threw a cosmic bitch fit..... He's simply clearly not a just god, in any way. I mean, maybe for like two people, because he unjustly picks favorites.

    There is NO reason to believe it. Literally.

    It IS a very interesting rationalization of natural history, with such things as great storms, floods, meteors, earthquakes, etc, pinned on god. It also does offer a very interesting, and suprisingly well thought out, analogy for hunter-gatherer peoples chaining themselves with agriculture, and the knowledge of plants.
     
  3. jaredfelix

    jaredfelix Namaste ॐ

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Christianity

    Sounds more like god is a part of everything
     
  4. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    Sacred birth control is the responsibility of Wise Woman .
     
  5. ryupower

    ryupower NO capcom included

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    Nope, but Freedom of Speech gives me the right. Also if the Religion demands it, it is, indeed, legally permissive of doing so.
     
  6. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    whoa- lemme just stop you there.

    there is nothing to be proven or disproven about atheism. atheism is the LACK of a belief in a deity. there is no belief involved. there is a lack of belief.
     
  7. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    and to comment on the topic at hand, christians don't get special privileges because they whine loud enough about something. i believe that the wars America is waging is immoral. i think that many of the things my government does is wrong, but what am I gonna do about it? go and force my beliefs on others by suing the government?

    no.

    because im a fucking adult and i understand how the world actually works. you stop abortion, you increase crime, homelessness, and abuse. you can't just pray for shit to magically work out. christians like this are so short sighted and selfish they can't even see the damage they do to those around them. like the assholes that stand outside abortion clinics and wave a sign with a fetus on it. and the pope, who tells his followers that it's better to have AIDS than to use a condom.
     
  8. Duck

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    But that lack of belief is impossible to completely validate.

    Surely, logic dictates that the one making the claim is the one whom must prove it. But us atheists have to face that we are currently outnumbered. When asked for proof; we can, and we should ask for proof back and refuse to be the first to answer; but there isn't much proof for either side to offer.

    What were we talking about?
     
  9. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Actually the framers of the constitution to wanted people to have that exact "freedom" and so even if you want to call God an "imaginary invisible useless sky monster" and call talking to others about that "imaginary invisible useless sky monster" ramming it down their throats, the "Religious Freedom" you mentioned does give them the "freedom" to talk to others about their God and that same "freedom" gives you the right not to listen if you don't want to.
     
  10. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    ^you can't just close your ears and go 'nanananana' when christians are forcing their religious agenda into the law of the land.
     
  11. RooRshack

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    Atheism doesn't need proof, it's not like that.

    Trying to prove it is already losing the argument.
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Quite honestly, atheists also force "their "religious" agenda into the law of the land", are you okay with that?
     
  13. RooRshack

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    Atheists don't have a religious agenda.

    They do generally have an agenda that involves removing the religion of specific groups from the codified laws that affect everyone.
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Please note the quotation marks around the word religious, in this case it signifies that some atheists have a religious like agenda, a zeal for their agenda that compares to zeal that some religious zealots have for their agenda.

    Also their agenda goes beyond just removing religion from codified laws, to the point of trying to prevent others from engaging in their legally protected religion freedom.
     
  15. SunLion

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    No. We don't often blow up things to show the value of reason and logic.
     
  16. Driftwood Gypsy

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    I'm atheist/eclectic transistioning.... but really, I totally support the Obama Administration in this.... I can't help but notice these supposedly victimized and discriminated upon religions are the same ones who have been oppressing and killing men, women, children, homosexuals, "witches", native peoples, etc. for thousands of years.
    I think people need to keep their personal religious choices personal. Don't stand in the way of medicine, science, freedoms, and rights. If you don't like abortions, don't get abortions. if you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married.
    I disagree with churches being tax free as well. I also think it's nobody else's business what a woman does with her body; it's her body, her sacred space, her domain.
    Religion has no place in politics.
     
  17. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    please just give me an example.

    i'd love to hear about how atheists are pushing their views unfairly on the rest.
     
  18. Driftwood Gypsy

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    Atheists aren't pushing their views unfairly on the rest....
    Atheists are pointing out reality to the christians.
     
  19. RooRshack

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    No, it doesn't.

    Keeping religion totally out of government and such is not keeping anyone from engaging in anything. This means in the form of political donations, and just about everything else.

    Otherwise that religion is stomping all over other religions, and those who don't believe. Why? Because their religion says to, which is unacceptable. Like the gay marriage thing, and abortion, and all sorts of other things.

    Your right to religion ends where that religion begins affecting my right to be free of your religion.
     
  20. Driftwood Gypsy

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    well put. If anything, religious groups have been bullying everyone else.
     
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