NY'rs Mass Civil Disobedience - gun forms burned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OWX_DkGMSk&list=UUFjOi1ZpZVErr8EYxg8t1dQ"]New York Gun Owners Burn Gun Registration Forms In Protest of NY Safe Act! - YouTube

Faced with an end of April deadline to register their guns, the good people of NY burnt the forms in mass civil disobedience ~ something we all need to see - not "rednecks", not blacks or hispanics, not hippies or "NRA" or gays....Americans.

Go NY! They're dam sure going to try and kill you anyway, that's why they want your guns!

 

Mass disobedience my ass

Hell man I’ve had parties with more people

http://redalertpolitics.com/2014/03...gistration-forms-to-protest-gun-registration/

 

Well at least there's still some Americans with balls to be worth their freedom and I am thinking they just made a few more...

 

Isn't it 'Assault Rifles'?

A little melodramatic don't you think?

I'm wondering why this is: unconstitutional, irresponsible law.
Actually, forget 'unconstitutional' (we would be here till the end of time itself) what is irresponsible?

http://www.ny2agrassroots.com/

• Bans possession of any "high-capacity magazines" regardless of when they were made or sold. The maximum capacity for all magazines is 10 rounds. .22 caliber tubular magazines are exempt from this limit. Previously legal "pre-1994-ban" magazines with a capacity of 30 rounds are not exempt, and must be sold within one year to an out-of-state resident or turned in to local authorities. The magazine limit took effect April 15, 2013.[8][9] Originally the law allowed only seven rounds to be loaded into a magazine, but this provision was struck down by a federal judge on December 21, 2013.[10]

• Ammunition dealers are required to do background checks, similar to those for gun buyers. Dealers are required to report all sales, including amounts, to the state. Internet sales of ammunition are allowed, but the ammunition will have to be shipped to a licensed dealer in New York state for pickup. Ammunition background checks will begin January 15, 2014.[11]
• Requires creation of a registry of assault weapons. Those New Yorkers who already own such weapons would be required to register their guns with the state. Registry began on April 15, 2013 and must be completed before April 15, 2014.[9]
• Requires designated mental health professionals who believe a mental health patient made a credible threat of harming others to report the threat to a mental health director, who would then have to report serious threats to the state Department of Criminal Justice Services. A patient's gun could be taken from him or her.
• Stolen guns are required to be reported within 24 hours. Failure to report can result in a misdemeanor.
• Broadens definition of "assault weapon" from two identified features to one. The sale and/or transfer of newly defined assault weapons is banned within the state, although sales out of state are permitted. Possession of the newly defined assault weapons is allowed only if they were possessed at the time that the law was passed, and must be registered with the state within one year.
• Requires background checks for all gun sales, including by private sellers - except for sales to members of the seller's immediate family. Private sale background checks began March 15, 2013.[11]
• Guns must be "safely stored" from any household member who has been convicted of a felony or domestic violence crime, has been involuntarily committed, or is currently under an order of protection.[11] Unsafe storage of assault weapons is a misdemeanor.
• Bans the Internet sale of assault weapons.
• Increases sentences for gun crimes, including upgrading the offense for taking a gun on school property from a misdemeanor to a felony.[12]
• Increases penalties for shooting first responders (Webster provision) to life in prison without parole.
• Limits the state records law to protect handgun owners from being identified publicly. However, existing permit holders have to opt into this provision by filing a form within 120 days of the law's enactment. [13] There also may exist issues with respect to "registered" owners in the new regulations vs "permit" holders under previous law.
• Requires pistol permit holders or owners of registered assault weapons to have them renewed at least every five years.
• Allows law enforcement officials to pre-emptively seize one's firearms without a warrant or court order when there is probable cause the individual is mentally unstable or intends to use the weapons to commit a crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NY_SAFE_Act

 

So, how does registering your guns equate to having them taken away.... Unless you're a nutjob that shouldn't have one to begin with.

 

Registry is viewed by most owners as a prequel to attempted seizure or harassment.

I just posted a video - I don't want to debate guns because I feel like it's pointless? I will say I disagree, but I don't want to get trapped in one of these life wasting debates with other people who it doesn't really matter what we say? Seems essentially masturbatory with no climax? But people can debate all they want with the thread if that's what they want to do?

 

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Then why the hell did you come here posting stuff and wasting all our time because you had no fucking intention of debating it?

 

I posted information without requirement of aggressive, pointless debate for each person to see if they wanted and make of it what tbey could? That's not breaking any rule at all and I already gave my two cents anyway? Have at! Get wild! Who cares man? It doesn't really mean anything it's just people enjoying talking as they like?

 

i think it was posts just like the one im quoting that he was trying to avoid. well if it were me it would be the ones from people that arent even from this country that i would be trying to avoid but i cant speak for him so i wont.

 

Yup. Thanks - cheers!

 

Dittoed

 

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Well people ARE getting to debate it and don't worry - haha I will post anywhere but where you like to hang out. Now I answered your questions to exhaustion already and it's time to let others talk about it if they want to. I had no intent to try and attack everyone who said something insisting that they talk to me about it until I was satisfied! That's the epitome of a troll to me. Demanding someone respond to you and appease you. Sucks and stinks.

 

oh odd...your name even sounds like food yet you will not feed the troll? that disappoints me on no levels.

 

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LOL you haven’t answered anything exhaustively, you just seem to be running away and that’s fine go away I mean there is no point been here if you are unable to debate.

 

why does if have to be unable. i know sometimes it is just unwilling or unwanted. i used to have a friend who would say stuff online and i would say "dont you want to see what they replied?" he would tell me. "no i said what i wanted and thats all i have to say."

 

A lot of false tactics for someone who claims "debate" when false tactics only qualifies as ?
What if I find you "unable" but was trying to be polite and leave others their otherness?

 

probably the same reason you have such a big stick up your ass over it, and it doesn't even effect really you,
and when it comes to wasting time debating guns, nobody wastes more time than you Balbus.

bloody limey...

 

LOL, I'll remember that the next time you post walls of cut-n-paste "statistics" LOL

 

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Could they explain these ideas in any rational way, had they been thought through in any logical manner and were they defendable from criticism?

If people never test their ideas how do they know if they are any good?

To me debate is central to the political process people need to weigh up the merits of differing ideas and see if they stand up to criticisms and scrutiny, if that isn’t done a lot of bad ideas can creep into the political system.