NRA planning Gun Appreciation Day

Were is the tyranny then? external? NO!
internal? YES the tyranny of an asshole carrying a weapon that have other considerations of what is tyranny (...) then ban weapons and no tyranny of any kind

Is the snow ball again, with more weapons you will only make the problem bigger. Stop it now

Can you just update the 2nd then, and realice that the only Red Coats and Indians to fight now, are just the "weapons for all"

Don´t you feel sick when you see an american father showing how to soot to his son?

 

All this talk makes me want to hit up the gun range.

And for the record, a complete firearm prohibition is not possible in America. It's not even an option.

 

Or the tyranny in the form of our own government? Democracies have turned tyrannical in the past, Meagle. Again, the 2nd Amendment was written so that citizens of this country would have the tools to defend themselves against external threats (foreign invaders) or internal threats (such as a tyrannical government).

It doesn't need to be updated. The ideas behind it are just as valid now as they were then.

Not at all. I feel proud that an American father would show his son not only how to shoot well, but also how to respect the weapon, just as my father did for me.

 

http://www.progressivepress.net/sloppy-reporting-misleads-the-public-on-obamas-executive-orders/

Sloppy Reporting Misleads the Public on Obama’s Executive Orders

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=464999&f=36
Also found there ^

 

Indeed. I am happy no politician is proposing such a prohibition. Well, at least no credible politician.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself

 

The 2nd Amendment was written when people used muzzle-loading muskets and powder horns. There's no way the founding fathers predicted that a person would one day have the ability to shoot 70 people in 5 minutes. Those kinds of weapons cannot be safely used by the populace simply due to the sheer number of people in the country and the chance that a person who buys it has ill intent.

The other thing to focus on is that the Second Amendment does allow for the bearing of arms, but the purpose stated is to preserve a "well-regulated militia." Local militias now having been replaced by the National Guard, the amendment could be easily interpreted as only a provision to protect armament of National Guard members. Interpreting the Second Amendment as being there in case of the "need" to violently overthrow the government is ridiculous, as that would be akin to the government sponsoring terrorism against itself.

Lastly, the "tree of liberty" argument is very much dependent on the definition of tyranny. For example, some might find it tyrannical that women are denied abortions in certain stages of pregnancy. However, if you went and bombed a federal building because you were angry about abortion laws, the Second Amendment isn't going to get you out of terrorism charges.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Okay lets think that way. Then no science at all. and we all consider the bible as true fact:

then the universe has 10.000 years instead of 14,7 billion

Man walked earth at the time of the dinosaurs

There was a universal floding, some how most of the wáter vanish later

The earth is flat and so on.

Are we moveing forward? or evolution just came to an end?

What if the most victims of fire weapon are owners and relatives?
Does it make sense buyng them?

 

What about?:

In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two landmark decisions officially establishing this interpretation. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2] and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1676432/District-of-Columbia-v-Heller

 

'Cause you've left me with lots of cannon fodder

Only a factory? Oh really? How about the guns I can 3D print with from CAD files I can download online? Ever heard of a 3D printer?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygre...acity-ammo-clips-to-thwart-proposed-gun-laws/

On top of that 150,000 gun patterns have been downloaded since the gun control freak-out began. The number is probably a lot higher than that since lots of downloads go undetected.

To be fair though, 3d printing is expensive as hell. But with this technology, anybody can 3D print the molds they want.

AND

Anyone who knows how to run one of these machines: http://toolmonger.com/2009/05/13/grizzly-g9959-metalwood-mill/

and one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/garage...nch-x-10-inch-precision-mini-lathe-93212.html

can build their own guns and ammunition in their own garage.

So what was it were you saying about a factory?

Hahahaha please, by all means, explain to me how gun smugglers continue to get away with it? A gun is an assembly, not a component. It can be broken down into several small harmless parts a kid could choke themselves on.

When guns become illegal to own, do you think they'll have serial numbers?

 

They say you cand found ways in the internnet to build bombs at home, even nuclear (if you can find radioactive stuff) so, lets make bombs legal, they gonna have it any way. there´s no logic at all.

Let free pisoners, some will escape anyway (...)

When weapons become ilegal is pólice business period.

weapons are evil, don´t surender your self so easyly, no mattter how much you like them

 

What exactly did I help you with? I am genuinely curious, and am anxiously awaiting your response.

 

.....your posts are so dumb you're diminishing everyone's IQ

Sounds like you snoozed off in chemistry class.
Bombs come in many different forms of chemicals, as well as chemical reactors. With the knowledge you can build one yourself with a chemical activators of your preference. Hell you could do it the easy way and make molotov cocktails.

Newsflash you dingus: there's already a prohibition on bombs. Yet you can buy explosives at every god damn gas station.

Hell, they're easier to build than guns

The hell are you trying to get at here? I think if you free all prisoners they'll escape. What the shit does this have to do with anything?!

Every statement needs a thesis or a point! Get to it will ya!

ok now you're not making any sense.. But I'll be fair and ask nicely what point you're trying to make with this horribly written sentence.

If my government forces me to surrender my weapons, I'll hide them where they can't find them. And if they ever do, I'll turn to the black market for more.

 

This is the kind of thought we are fighting against. Why would any have the need of shooting around? was that a threat? If you don´t like what you hear or reed, there´s a thing called tolerance.

I have ony hold a fire weapon once, it was a policeman´s pistol, he show it me, i take it, and i lleave it. Easy, i never needed a weapon, not even when 3 guys atacked my in my cab, not even when they won.

 

I think i´m gonna cry!

Get the point:

Don´t ban weapons, some people can built them at home, so is useles

your point changing weapons to imprisoned

Don´t imprisom criminals, some would escape, so is useles

No sense any way

then you´ll become a delinquent. Not of my business

I know my english is poor, as long as you can understand it, it´s okay

 

America had better guns than Brittan back in those days. So we understood that technology in guns would advance. People were well-read, and by no means ignorant in those days. The fact of the matter is, guns are the ONLY thing that can protect one from a crazy criminal with guns; and CRIMINALS will find ways to get gun regardless of the law. NY state is VERY strict on guns, yet they have one of the highest gun crime rates in the country. Prohibition laws make things easier for criminals to obtain illegal guns, drugs etc. and disarms the law abiding citizens who merely want to protect their own property.

I don't agree with blowing up abortion clinics or creating terrorism as means of being political. However, our founders knew tyranny better than anything else. They understood what it meant to live under a government which over stepped its bounds and started over taxing and spying on the colonist. In many ways, they were like us today; They just wanted to keep their Human Rights, and would fight to do so. In that way, today, our government is taking away our constitutional rights. The Declaration of Independence says

The only way for Americans to insure that Government is working toward our safety and happiness, is to keep and maintain the Constitution. The Right to bear arms esp. as Thomas Jefferson said,

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” – Thomas Jefferson

George Washington said,

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” – George Washington

 

To me, you need weapons to defed yourself of others who have the right to own weapons. (...)

Apart from the fact that there are as many fire weapons as americans, something scary. What is your reason for an armed militia?

What actions? another civil war?

You have the strongest army in the world, you really think you can take over if necesary?

You have torerate a gift of over 120 billion $ to sustain Israel, you have put dictators in lots of countries, you have invaded a lot. I don´t know what you mean by "illegitimate government actions"

We don´t need or have militia in Europe, neither most of the world

The 34 billion$, 2012 profit of weapon makers, may be the point