Not going to vote?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Deleted member 50876, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Hahaha. That's some funny form of protest. Why don't you just spoil your ballot?

    Can't you spoil your ballot nowadays on those machines??? Do you have the option of doing so at advance polling stations?
     
  2. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    And anyway, there's predictably a large turnout for Democratic voters this year. With the amount of campaigning Hilary and Obama have been doing combined, outweighs the supporters for McCain. Plenty of Republican pundits out there think he's out of his tree, which he is.

    Obama's going to win.
     
  3. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    that damn, dirty ape. :mad: Get back in your tree. :mad:
     
  4. Your vote doesn't count, as much as you think you will make a difference, you don't.

    We all seem to want change, yet we all fall for the same old political bullshit.

    I just personally do not want to support this crazy hellish system we live by.

    My opinion of course.

    Peace :)
     
  5. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Hahaha Cate, exactly.

    Here in Canada, you are forced to retire as a Senator at the age of 75. (Which is notably old).

    If McCain gets elected as president, he'll finish out his term and be the ripe age of 77. He should be forced to retire today and as punishment for being a dink, forced to resuscitate the oil company Dubbya Bush burried and ran into the ground.
     
  6. zilla939

    zilla939 Thought Police Lifetime Supporter

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    or else it is working to their advantage, so they don't WANT to change it.

    god bless america!
     
  7. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Actually, on the flip side - your vote counts as much as you can ever really hope to have any shape of a direct voice in the democratic essence of the West.

    I mean, if you're voting for what you want that is. Or what you strongly do not want.

    Voting as a system isn't an evil concept that corrupts and destroys the very foundation of humanity and all that's good in life. It's just a tool to help mechanize decisions and get things organized.

    It's the complexity of such a systematic appearance of regulation and customary governance that doesn't appeal to people when they think of voting and the ceremonial precedures that entails that seem to be pinned as the malfaisant that prolongs and breeds corruption.

    I mean, sure, don't vote if you feel your vote is wasted. I think you might as well waste it on the Marijuana Party or the Green Party if you feel like you'd like to rather than just waste it. Or at least make some kind of political statement by spoiling your ballot.

    But preach to the choir apathetic moods sitting by and by, and promote making a statement to do nothing to change the way things are, seems like hypocrisy to me.
     
  8. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    I dont really vote. I voted once.
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I don't think anyone is preaching apathy. Voting does not make a person any less apathetic, because many people who vote could not care less about knowledge and the truth. They like to just go and pull that lever down every four years and think they've done their part. It makes them feel good.
     
  10. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I voted to change the voting system once in my lifetime. I voted in favour of Mixed-Member Proportional Representation (MMPR) instead of FPTP. I feel like my vote counted, my voice was heard, despite the majority being in favour of FPTP.

    You may say I'm a dreamer.
     
  11. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Ah yes, the Glory-Meter theory.

    The invisible device almost everyone carries around with them, a Palm Pilot-ish gadget that goes Ding! Ding! Ding! whenever we come up with a salve to try and inflate our sense of importance. Examples would be "I make the best sour cherry pie in Rochester" or "My dog has the silkiest fur of all dogs in the park", etc.

    There really isn't anything wrong with having something inside of you to activate the Glory-Meter. Most people like making themselves feel good. It's a selfish thing to vote what you, and you alone believe in perhaps. But that's the nature of voting.
     
  12. zilla939

    zilla939 Thought Police Lifetime Supporter

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    you're not the only one.

    i'm not a conspiracy theorist. i DON'T think everyone is out to get me! so i'm going to vote, much to the dismay of all the paranoid stoners out there.
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I don't see what being a conspiracy theorist has to do with it.
     
  14. zilla939

    zilla939 Thought Police Lifetime Supporter

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    conspiracy theorists think big banks and the corrupt elite are out to get the masses. i think the elite are, for the most part, just as selfish and ignorant as everyone in america. i think there is hope for change; it will just take a mass awakening. people need to learn to think critically and look at the bigger picture. i don't see things as being so futile as others do.
     
  15. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    TAKE ME DOWN TO PARADISE CITY WHERE THE GRASS IS GREEN AND THE GIRLS ARE PRETTY! yea
     
  16. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    That album was so overplayed. Was good, but overplayed. I liked Night Train.

    Anyway, when are we going to see Chinese Democracy? Wise choice for an album name, you have to admit.
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Conversely, I could say informed people who have done the research know that the big banks and corrupt elite deliberately work against the interests of the people, because these same elitists have openly admitted this themselves. And really, when you understand how the people who control the banking system have the power to print money out of nothing, you realize that it goes a lot deeper than just a simple lust for paper fiat (which these people have plenty of). These people are after control, and they have made this clear in their own writings that the average person cannot be bothered to read.

    No, I do not believe that things are futile, either. However, they are as long as the public remains content to hold on to their conditioned beliefs about how the system supposedly works. The problem is, when you provide people with information that conflicts with what they think they know, they will put steel shutters up in front of themselves and continue believing only what they want to hear. Most people do not want the truth, and most people are content brushing off what they don't want to hear as being "conspiracy theory" without doing the research themselves to see if in fact it is a conspiracy theory or if there is truth to it.
     
  18. babyhellfire

    babyhellfire Banned

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    I AM going to vote this year.
    -not that it matters being a Florida resident and all
     
  19. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    It's fair to assume that rich people like to stay rich. They protect their assets. It only makes sense that elites create as much distance and control over people - but they're not the smartest rocks in the pits of the ocean. They really aren't that elite and have the most secretest secrets and hidden symbols of their hidden agendas and veiled systems of oppression. It's the hogus-bogus stuff that turns people's ears off.

    So was there a big moral to any of this? I do know that as a species we're somehow hard-wired to believe lies. It's astonishing how willing we are to believe whatever story we're tossed simply because we want to hear what we want to hear. We want to believe. If you go looking for the truth, in whatever you're wanting to find, you'll find it. It's this statement that lends itself to discredit conspiracy theories, all theories for that matter. The slipknot of seeking ultimate truths is you either find it and hold on to it as being true when it is false or you never really know it and only harvest it into a weave of beliefs based on half-truths or hearsay.

    EDIT: I feel chatty and philosophical today.
     
  20. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, they're smart enough to have most of the people believing that they don't exist when in fact they admittedly and provably control both political parties, all major media, education, medicine, religion, and just about everything else that makes up this matrix system. So maybe they're not smart, but they're smart enough to dupe an overwhelming majority of the population that is content believing that what they're told on the 6 o'clock news is the truth.

    What separates a theory from a fact? Most people have no problem believing a theory as being fact if it's presented to them on TV by men and women with nice clothes and well-groomed hair.
     

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