North Korea Attacks Free Speech In America

I was lumping together all corporations that do business in the US. Also, shares of Sony are traded on the New York Stock Exchange.

Their Japanese roots may have played a role in aggravating this situation, since there has been so much animosity between NK and Japan.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/18/world/asia/north-korea-hacker-network/

"I think we underestimated North Korea's cyber-capabilities," said Victor Cha, director of Asian studies at Georgetown University. "They certainly didn't evidence this sort of capability in the previous attacks."

 

What we should all notice is the position the US government has taken in this. The hack was one thing, it didn't really work so well. But the threats of violence against US citizens on US soil seem to have worked completely. While I agree that the US has no business defending Sony from another government, after all they're global right? I do think though that the US should have said something about the threats against Americans. THAT is just plain wrong.

 

Okay, I've learned a little more about Sony's security. It was shit. They should have done better. But I do feel bad for employees that have had their social security numbers published.

Does anybody really think that NK has armed terrorists ready to act inside the US? I didn't think they ever allowed any of their people to leave.

The US government does need to take whatever action is needed to stop violent crime, no matter who owns a business. Most of the potential victims are American citizens.

I think nobody really knows what to do or say right now because NK is so volatile, and over-reacts to every little thing. They're like toddlers with hand grenades.

Looking to the short term future, what's to stop ISIS from taking similar action against any organization that speaks out against militant fundamentalist Islam or its core principals? Free speech that doesn't offend anyone is no speech at all. Everything offends somebody.

 

Now sony is trying to muddle the fact that they caved by not releasing the interview in theaters saying something like "we didnt back down" and "we are actively pursuing releasing the movie in other mediums"

Pansies

 

In another article it was reported that Sony claims to have no intention of ever releasing "The Interview".
The first headline I saw relating to the story referred to a group calling themselves the #GOP, `Guardians Of Peace', is that a North Korean group?

 

facepalm of many levels.

they should release the movie anyway.

there is probably more to this than the public will ever be told. why exactly do they think this group is north korean?

also ... a hacker group could claim to be anyone, even other hacker groups and even plant something to make it appear plausible.

maybe apple did it, though i think they'd probably go after samsung first :crowngrin:

 

http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/update-on-sony-investigation

• Technical analysis of the data deletion malware used in this attack revealed links to other malware that the FBI knows North Korean actors previously developed. For example, there were similarities in specific lines of code, encryption algorithms, data deletion methods, and compromised networks.
• The FBI also observed significant overlap between the infrastructure used in this attack and other malicious cyber activity the U.S. government has previously linked directly to North Korea. For example, the FBI discovered that several Internet protocol (IP) addresses associated with known North Korean infrastructure communicated with IP addresses that were hardcoded into the data deletion malware used in this attack.
• Separately, the tools used in the SPE attack have similarities to a cyber attack in March of last year against South Korean banks and media outlets, which was carried out by North Korea.

It's sony's movie, their decision. I think the whole thing is a little over-blown

 

the US government may have a reason to have us believe that it was the north koreans, support for world war 3. from that description of the attack it would seem that north korea must have something to do with it. idk, it wouldn't have to be the government, but i could understand why our government might think they were involved. probably more likely some kind of corporate information gathering / other asian companies.

 

Yeah, we've ignored crazy shit from NK in the past, not sure why we don't just ignore this one too. I guess we figure they have some juice with their cyber-capability's.

 

I heard a high ranking Sony official speak last night. He says they worked really hard to get the movie released anyway, but so few theaters would take it that the premiere would have been an epic fail. They also asked all the other movie studios in Hollywood to make a public statement in support of the First Amendment, and all of them refused. He says when Obama said they gave in to NK, he spoke without knowing all the facts. They still want to release the movie at some point, but don't yet have a specific plan for going about it. Several on demand video outlets are still saying privately that they want nothing to do with this film, because they fear NK.

Sony employee groups have already filed multiple class action lawsuits against Sony, so their losses from this event could easily reach well into the hundreds of millions of dollars. I think any other movie studio will think twice before producing a movie that could offend NK in any way.

This is a very bad week for free speech.

 

I don't know why everybody thinks that if we sneeze we'll have little north koreans crawling out of our asses. They are thousands of miles away and generally don't get out much. Does anybody believe they will just go to town with a couple of ICBMs? Over a B - grade movie?? Jaysus!

Just hire some russian hackers (cause they're really good) and crash their systems for a week. That's the beauty of long-distance calls: you can insult the other guy all you want while he can't physically reach you.

And just so everybody remembers: that guy with the funny haircut (yeah him, the fat guy with the pig eyes) had his own uncle killed.

The little fuck.

 

Maybe the question should be, would you go to a theater featuring the movie despite NK's threats?

 

It probably wasn't that guy himself. It is getting more and more likely he is just the face of the system and nothing more. A pawn, used because he is 'the son of'.

edit: he probably doesn't even decide his own haircut

When I see a thread like this I just feel like pitying those poor north koreans. Well, I pity them anyway.

 

Oh heck yeah (that is if I wanted to see it). Do you really think Little Kim is going to send in guided laser beams to fry my ass because he read on my Facebook that I was going to see the movie anyways? That's ridiculous.

It's like a guy standing on the other side of a river screaming at you "I'm gonna kill you, motherfucker!!"
Then you tell him "Dude, you cant swim!"

 

Yup. These guys have it real bad.

 

No, but Netflix and Time Warner are probably worried about getting the same treatment as Sony got. How could Time Warner Cable ever recover from an online attack? They struggle to function on a good day.

Does NK have any important computer systems online to hack? I doubt it.

 

Ha ha, back in the old days if someone wanted to "hack" that kind information or to steal a movie that hasn't been released they would have to physically break into a building to do it.

Now they just float right in undetected on a magic carpet of electrons.

Damned interesting times, folks!

 

Here is a clue.
The purpose of time is focus.
Interest is the pursuit of knowledge
The internet is far ranging focus
What you focus on you get
This is the millennial reign
The far ranging quest for knowledge
The crown of creation
Blessed

 

To tie this back to the thread, the real battle ground is knowledge and ignorance. There is something we know the kim doesn't want you to know because if people popularly knew, he wouldn't be so popular