Non weed drugs

Alright, I'll try to clarify a little better. I'm a little buzzed but bear with me. Ok, those sites claim that MJ is not a gateway drug, correct? They also state that drug users that use coke, heroine ex.... is not caused bt Marijuana. This is all true, if MJ was legal. those sites you game me are ignoring the fact that it's illigal and the evidence you backed up don't explain what would happen if it were legalized and easily available to any pot users.

But ebcause MJ is illigal, other drugs are more likely to show up when pot users buy weed from their dealers, and are most likely going to run into coke, crack, heroin, ect.

Did I make a little sense that time?

 

No I didn't deviate. I was saying the true "gateway" is the fact that it is illegal and brings you in contact with those other drugs, but it's not the only factor. I've said this MANY MANY MANY times since you first called me out.

And whether or not you agree with what I say depends on how prepared I am with sources? My argument is based on my own theory and also on common sense, so how would I have links to show you?

I understand your argument is based on fact, and that's cool. My theory, however, will not be proven until weed is legalized, so that we can see then how many people don't even consider weed to be in the same category as those other drugs anymore, and people will look at it as nothing more than a legal way to relax, and not really as a "drug" experience(though it is a drug experience), so they wouldn't even relate weed to the other drugs and may not be as curious about them and may never even have to see them because they can grow their own weed or buy it in a store. That is my theory, and I'm stickin to it

 

I hope so man, because we've been saying the same shit to her since this morning, and she doesn't get it.

Maybe I'm not explaining it right and she doesn't understand wtf I'm trying to say, so hopefully she understands your post.

 

boy she likes to fight huh? espesially with you TNS. lol

 

Don't worry man, your post makes ultamite sense, and I'm sure you understand what I'm getting at. But we can only hope she understands the logic we're showing to her.

 

I just read that stupid tips on sex thread bs and she fought with ranger on every page. Was funny too.

 

i was a part of that. it was hilarious

 

wow what the hell was her problem
saying weed as a possible gateway drug is a resounding no is unbelievable
she needs to open her eyes and see that weeds used around the world and she has probably only seen it been used in holland where it is completely different from say canada or us
my theory is that marijuana leads you to such things as stoners themselves and movies
and some of my friends who smoke alot of weed also do other drugs
thus im aware of all these drugs theyr saying are really good
im actually thinking of trying mescaline soon
and acid
but back to my point also it leads you to such movies as fear and loathing in las vegas
which also kinda made me want to explore and see what other drugs are about
so i have to say she is one close minded bitch

 

I agree slatter, especially on that bitch part. Evetry post that she makes shes always bitching at someone out of pure jealousy like that other thread or just because she's stuck up. Shes not worth trying to explain the logical facts about MJ because she is trapped behind a wall of ignorance.

 

more like she wants us all to drown in the sea that is her ignorance

 

Lol yeah, seriously.

 

Actually, I just smoke weed and eat shrooms... maybe mescaline again, but only if I grew a san pedro myself or extracted from the wild or something, occasional kava or salvia.

I don't like the mentality of people who just "go out and do drugs". I'm more of an herbalist or medicinal botanist than just a recreational drug user, but people have to be so vague and blase about everything they do. It's sort of like music... there are different levels of listening and ambience. You have entertainment-focused mainstream shit that people will have in the background or dinner music, or you can delve into the center of people's minds with Bob Dylan or Neil Young, or you could be chilling/spazzing out to Ali Akbar Khan or John Coltrane solos.

It's a matter of preference and point of view which not all folks are considerate of.

 

wow, bitching on this page :lol:

 

has anyone here done mescaline
i have an idea what its like but never talked to someone whos done it

 

Wonka has done mesc. So has nesta. I have tried it, unsuccessfully. I'm probably gonna try it again someday, but I am gonna prepare the san pedro differently, somehow.
Also, there is an entire forum in the psychedelic forums about mescaline-containing cacti, if you wanna talk to some folks. There are plenty of people in there that have done mesc.

 

It made me feel like a Mexican... but I don't always trust things unless I grew them myself, and if it won't grow as a natural compound, I won't ingest it, unless it relates to hybrid strains and cross-pollination/fertilization, which is different.

 

I really don't want to do other drugs. The only other legal drug is smoking cigs, but stil;l. I'm never going to try doing coke, pills, or any shit like that. Btw, what is mescaline, I know, stupid Q.

 

It's a psychedelic phenethylamine found in peyote, san pedro, peruvian torch, and a few other cacti.

 

Oooo, cool.

 

But that's the thing, I've already been through coke and pills and I have seen the light.

That's just like elitist people who quit smoking cigs. I've smoked a half a cig in my entire life, but I've sometimes smoked a pack or two of cigars a day. (sometimes rolled as blunts, sometimes not)

Shrooms really do mean alot to me, but really, I don't focus on it that much. I'm more of a herbalist, but I don't worry about much else besides the Cannabis plant, because of the beauty and how it's such a malleable/ductile medium to work with, wether it be for coastal erosion or alternative fuels.

I mean, I go to Trader Joe's sometimes just to get hemp granola crunch.