nomadic tribe

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I admit my experiance with the human race of these ears ma have made me sometimes quick to judge. I wish that i would be surprised more by humanity and i would be proven wrong more. When someone surprises me i am like letting them know thanks for reminding me people can still surprise me and how sorry i was to judge then wrongly. The one fact in this world though to me is that however i think or others think of somone should not mean a thing to them for the know who the are. Knowing ourself and liking who you are trully in your heart in mind you will find you free of others people oppinions or judgements.
All i can go by when i read here is just that the words and how the add up.
And yes this is always not the greatest place to know people because alot of people have a hard time saying what they trully mean ect ect. NOw this is my biggest wondering about what exclipse has said. On this site and drews personal site and to date no one has mentioned he wants 500.00 a head to come all he says is whatever go's into the bus he does not state a amount. he has never mentioned this being a business to have others make money it has all been said that it was a commune type deal. nobody up to now has mentioned a 500.00 amount to go. I have to say i have never met anyone who was wanting to head out on the road and join me at least with and the people i have met traveling on foot had 500.00 to give me or even have of thier own i have always had to buy bus tickets for everyone to so far. I try to think like others but i just have to wonder why anyone would think that giving someone 500.00 to go on a bus and then they would make lots of money selling making hemp and selling it to the public. I have just found in my life the days of people just believing others and handing them money or whatever has long disapeared at least mostly. I just try to understand why someone would not say he drew i am not going to fork over that much money till i have been here and seen how this all works and then just not go if he did not agree. I would love to hear more from the others about this new twist about this was a working troup of craftsman and the entry fee was 500.00 please any others tell me more. It is sad how few in all my years out here ever showed any interest in making money when i gave them everything n a silver platter and just said to them give me 50% of what you make and you can do whatever with the rest and if you want over time you can buy all your own stock from me and make like 5-6 times the money on what you sell. Some people did as much as 50-100.00 in a night just sitting in a coffee shop but they never stuck with it and nay money they made the would spend on whatever. So far i never had anyone with me that did not cost me everyday. Some more then others but i expect that and it is alright as long as they added something to my life and made an effort.
I wish i could be like old wolf more because he does not look at life the way i do i have a little respect for humanity in whole. it is not that i think everyone is mean and nasty but i have found most do little to improve themselves but talk about doing it forever. I think humanity has taken the easy road in life and just do not think about thier impacts on others.
I am still very open with everyone i meet hoping to meet people i respect and like as people but i do admit i just dont have the patience i did when i was younger to look through the mask and make the effort to bring the real person out from behind thier wall. So if i have jumped on anyone sorry it is really none of my business how you live and what you do as long as people let me be i am fine. Now i have not met drew as of yet and will be in the next few weeks and i admit i will probally be looking for these things you have mentioned. I kind of wish i was able to have just met up with him and not known anything and take it totally as it unfolded overal i will still do that but i will probally look a bit closer at things. One thing i still hold dear and the thing my mentor tried 18 years on the road to teach me and it took forever to finally understand it was this: if you put your hand in the fire and you get burned is it the fires fault? If you meet a boy/girl that you like and end up dating and down the road it get s real bad who's fault is it yours or hers?
The one thing that has made me grow up and learn and not repeat the same mistakes is to always remember that everything in my life is 100% m doing and i have to take the responcibility for it. If i do not blame others then i can changes those things but when i blame others then i would just repeat the same problems because it was thier fault. So it does not matter what happens good or bad in m life i know i turned the wheels that made it all happen and i am the one who put forth the effort for it to happen. Dont think i do not believe God has alot to do with everything to for me God sets the stage for my experience then it is up to me how it plays out.
Well again a long rambling letter sorry to bore people guess this may be a vent for me. Well i am in carlsbad NM and got to go see shops and whatever else there is to do.
JEFF

 

Come on now Jeff,

You Know better than to take everything as personal - my last post was not aimed at you in any way.

And I totally agree with you that only you are resposible for your choices and reactions

 

i know you where not aiming it at me but i saw myself in your words. I have been trying to remember when life was simple when i blushed when pretty girls talked to me but did not know why. when i loved bugs bunny and love watching disney movies. The days when life was simple no thoughts of sex(ewwwwww cooties) and friendships where simpler it was a simple time.
i think it was like 7-10 maybe a bit older i remember 3rd grade i started liking girls but did not know what to do with them but talk yet. Now i am older and have seen to much. I have been trying to get back some of my patience with people and be more understanding and i am trying to not expect negative from most people there is alot i need to work on in this life. My mentor so many years ago who taught me about sanity and thought , He ran to the mountians and hardly ever comes down anymore other then to make money and buy supplies he has become so cold and hard towards people since he was my teacher and i have to say it scares me to ever become him. So i keep an eye on myself and try to remember my place i keep my sense of humor and yes i still love disney movies and my dogs are alot like having kids to play with so they help keep me young. Well again Wolf I did not take offense or feel you where attacking me at all. I have to always look to see and fight back those urges to be a crusty old judgemental man.
ok well that is it. One thing addressed just for wolf you know these youngins just do not know how lucky they are to have a whole life ahead of them to make beautiful and hopefully people will learn faster then i did.
JEFF the roadgypsy

 

roadgypsy, I wish I was going to be there to meet you, hopefully our paths will cross one day. I think you have a lot of wisdom to share and enjoy hearing your perspective on things. As for eclipse paying 500$, Drew did suggest that people put in a few hundred dollars each in the beggining to get the bus on the road, and a few people did. I don't think anybody put in as much as eclipse(other than drew who put in a few thousand in the begining) but nobody was turned away from the bus for a lack of funds. I loved what you had to say about everything being a consequence of our own personal choices be it a negative or positive. And you are definitly right when you said most people would not put that much trust in strangers, Eclipse is an amazing person. I'm sure he's learned a lot on his journey, it's too bad he has so much resentment for Drew. I personally try to live like you said, not regret anything and try to learn from all experiences.

PEACE AND LOVE LINZ

 

Hye thanks
for the compliment and the enlightment on the trip. As for my wisdom i have found wisdom can be a curse for the more i learn the more i want to crawl into bed with my doggies and just stay there. Parts of me are counting the days till i get to just leave this life and start a new one i think one of the few things that ground me alot is my doggies i know i have to be here for them for they are to spoiled to ever be able to live in a normal family. It is wierd i am not sad or angry at life i think you could say i am tired there are not any new paths that really excite me anymore but i have far from given up and maybe with the help of god i will find something to perk me up. My biggest want is people to interect with but people who have something in common with me a thought a way of life or thinking. I remember this summer i met this guy a bit older then me sitting and at picnic table at my motel and he was playing with my dogs.
Well i went over to him to say hi and we eneded up talking for like 5 hours it was awesome we bith had places to go but found talking to each other was more important it was a very good thing. I have not had that kind of expereince in years to meet someone thought about themselves and life and and how to make himself the best he can he was amazing. That is what i would love to see more of. Well i am beat and my dogs are looking so cuddley on the bed so i will say goodnight.
JEFF

 

blinkin.... you say you're from canada. where abouts? i know someone about your age who left from van in a purple schoolbus, i'm wondering if i know you. does the name kenny ring a bell with anyone there?


peace~

 

i have seen 2 purple busses in my travels to day and that was years ago sorry just had to add my witty 2 cents in

 

hey all you there in cyber land....

enoughs enough
as the locals here have tought me
yeee motha fuckin haw\
I was just at the cerville folk festival staff retreat met some of the ccolest cats around...TEXAS KICKS ASS
where am I now??
HAHAHA IM ON WILLY NELSONS MOTHA FUCKLIN RANCH!!!!@!
sorry I cant be too concerned about past drama...it was miles before me Im not dwelling on it...niether should you..if anything those that stay on the bus learn the beauty of change ...man its always changing...
seems to be getting better from my point of view..transition thats all

eclipse
dude Im sure one day you will evolvre into something bad ass...though your alot like me , extremely vain !! when I was your age I had crossed canada 20 times, get some miles under your belt , Im not bieng insultive just saying all the book knowledge and crazy clothes doesnt make you you....you make yourself
as do we all in this life


Im hoping to figure a way to put up some pics soon

road gypsy
hey man were staying the weekend up near paleface then heading to odessa to meet you
Im looking fwd to it

theres a band called string cheese plaing and Im kinda down with hanging out with willy for a few days....HAHAHAH never expected this turn on my highway!!!

peace all
happy highway


nightmare hippy

umm nope sorry didnt leave van in a purple bus,,,but my old bus posted on my web site is in a yard toprn to crap by main street station

I think you sound familiar we may have spoke before...


peace

 

hey drew! so, i guess you're in austin?
Kerrville Music Festival, and String Cheese? Hmmmm i guess you are getting a taste of what i wanted to share with you. remember the blue grass version of that Snoop Dogg song? that was SCI!! i'm so glad that you are having a good time! from your post, you seemed to have realized some things.
it's good to hear from you, keep us posted, and you are more than welcome here, if you decide to come through!

 

yeah im sorry about my hinderance toward bluegrass...man its the shit!!!!!

Im having a great time, I ahve one of willyes bandanas!!

much love were off tommorrow

happy highway

erin..Im glad we did meet!!!!!!
many big ass smiles your way!!

 

ok we are in el paso
heading toward colorado next
did the whole mexico thing three times yesterday
.....tequila head ache this morning
full bus now
good cats
a wck load of spanish folk
heheh I get to learn spanish
much love
happy highway

eclipse if you get this I ran into my friend yasmin, in austin, (texas johns ex girlfriend)
Johns dead dude, he Overdosed in montreal....Im not sure what to say man Im pretty teared up about it....I just thought you should know


peace

 

Props to road gypsy and old wolf as they always seem to bring light to the posts they reply to. I myself have spent many years on the road and only rg seems to have more miles in the me out of all ive seen in my days.

Now to this whole somewhat pathetic post. Obviously to me this is a bunch of young inexperienced road dogs that havent found the balance that is needed to be productive on the road without taking advantage of others.

Ive read that a few get on and a few get off on a regular basis and now I sorta understand why, if the books dont balance of course new fish are needed as well as their get on funds to make up for the lack of organization and leadership and more than anything the presence of real family.

Working together for common goals is cool, using people, and as it so sounds, dumping folks is very uncool.

I was told long ago before I hit the road that the karma god watches all and if you take nothing then nothing will be taken and this has worked for me for years.

During my travels Ive picked up many who hung with me from a few hours to days, ect and as road gypsy said and I will agree most cost me money but to me its cool as helping others is what life is all about. And ive never regretted it.

This just sounds like a bunch of kids too interested in the party, drinking life and the use of others to do so.

Clarity is a wonderful thing but to some it is a rare thing and to some it doesnt exist.

The things we do when in our youth prepare us for the true adult years when the legit ways and means in life matter.......

I myself travel alone with pets and I love my own personal freedom but maybe someday that will all change but being the captin of your own ship is a great thing.

Now that ive put my 2 cents in I wish blinkin and his crew all the love in the world and hope all works out for all of you.

 

Hey Peace Keeper you sound like me i wonder if we have ever met. I know i would love to though would be cool to spend time with someone like yourself.
I was trying to find more about you but did not find anything. Please feel free to e-mail me at isellbodyjewelry@aol.com and lets start talking i find so few who understand this lifestyle. I myself so would love some company but just tired of taking the responcibilty of having someone around me day and night as in living with me. I have been searching for someone who has there own ride and life that would love to caravan for awhile and share some experience and times together. I just keep finding people who would need to live with me and have nothing so i would have to be there 100% for them. well hope to hear from you some time.

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Well Drew

I guessed yopu decided to pass me by you were darn close to me to go to El Paso. I tried calling you back on that girls number and left a message but never heard back from you. I guess you are heading to do that Colorado thing it is cool I hope it works out It would be nice to hear this person who offered you the nice deal to go up there ends up being what they say. I admit i hardly ever go out of my way to take people's offer's because to date
most where disapointments and i ended up falling back and having to build back up. So i would love to hear something someone offers actuallyt comes to pass how they say it would make me have good feeling for humanity.
I will probally be missing you because i do not intend to be in Colorado for at least 2 months and by then i have so much going on their for all my oldest friends are there that i will be staying busy i started this long strange trip in Boulder CO 23 years ago and have so much of what i call family there.
Depending on what go's on and if you be around we may meet up or if the colorado thing does not work out you are free to give me a ring. I will be in Odessa tomorrow i kind of lucked out in Carlsbad and got free nights for teaching the owner of the motel some computer skills and set up his PC.
So i took those nights to get a few orders in to fatten my case and rebagged and tagged all my stock to make everything look good.
So i am so ready to move on now been here awhile. I also got to get a inside look of the family who own the motel who are from India and fed me good and are teaching me alot of about how people from india in this country think and do business and i have been all ears. Well if you are in colorado as long as you are eat of the rockies in towns off I-25 the days will mostly be warm but nights will be pretty cold. When storms hit they hit hard but ussually disapate in a few days. I hope you remember about diesel fuel and cold weather dont get caught with to cold a fuel. West of I-25 in the mountians winter hits pretty hard specially the western slope. If you need any help or suggestion feel free to call. My only suggestion to you is be prepared with a weeks worth of expenses at all times there for once winter hits you are not going to have alot of luck husting hemp the way you do and you could be holed up in a storm for a week and not be aboe to get out and do anything. Winter does not normally really start till end of november accept for the cold nights. You being from Canada i am probally telling you nothing you do not know alot more about i hear winters up there are horendous. Well i hope all of you have good luck
BE Happy
JEFF

 

Hey to address some of peacekeeper thoughts i admit yes i think like him about the partying and stuff but i know for me i just was never into the whole partying thing and always looked for having my life together and for me i just found so few people i liked being around sober that having them drunk and stoned scared me. But that is me i am in the minority i grew up fast you tend to out here.
I have not really seen anyone used from what i have read and heard from drew.
Anyone on the Bus should of known anything can happen when you are a passenger on someone elses bus. They chose the path they took and most probally if they have not already noticed will one day owe the time on the bus for a better life. Hard times can toughen you up if you learn from them or with to many they blame those rough times for there entire life on why nothing in thier life works. As for his travels he sells to people who want to buy which is totally cool and so far i have not heard anything bad from anyone who invited him and his crew to thier house. So i guess now he may have found a group who is more to his liking which is what he needs. I find with my life when it comes to Karma God tends to let you know how you are doing if you are hurting others in your walk through life God will let you feel what it is like. FOr me it always was flat tires i found i always had flat tires when i was not being true to what i know to be true and i would always just relax and take my time changing the tire and thinking of what i need to do.
Most of the time that would work but sometimes i had extreme wake up calls. In 97 my toyota van caught fire as i was driving and by the time i stopped got my dogs and my stock out it exploded. It was christmas night too and luckily i unpacked a third of my van in the motel so i did not lose the essentials. But it all worked out great because i no longer kept on wondering what i needed to get rid of to make room and how many things i had with me had no reason to be there. I admit if i let my mind wander to what i lost it would sadden me for the first few months for i lost quite a bit of things i could never replace. But they where just things and i was back on my feet in a month with a roomier van and starting to collect more stuff. IF we pay attension to what is going on in life we can almost always be happy because we will see the drama and hard times that will befall us if we take a certian path. So far i am not seeing any major issues with the bus believe it or not.
Everyone knew what they where heading into by just knowing the people they where with i have a feeling many saw what was happening and stayed for the ride so they got what they knew could happen. To those who felt they where used and abused well they should be happy they got educated to not let things like this happen again. I have always been blown away by people who go with me and what questions they ask before they just get up and come out here with me. They where lucky i was a good person for few asked many questions or even payed attension to who i was saying i am.
Thye came to get away and brought there problems with me some had some good moments all had good lessons. People in alot of ways forgot or dont care to get to trully know people they do not listen when others are talking they do not watch how they act they do not look at the little things.
I look at all one thing i try to tell people is you can learn so much about someone by thier animals. What kind they have how they are treated ect.
I am always surprised how many girls who end up with guys who have dogs they treat badly and then are surprised when they find themselves treated like the dog. I listen to everything people tell me i watch everything people do and if there words to not match thier actions i watch even more so i can know who they really are and not who they think they are. That is how i have stayed sane all these years. So i end these thoughts saying The bus is just fine going the way the owner of it wants it to go and that is fine and unless he decides he wants to change that then everyone just needs to like it or not .
JEFF

 

I cant believe you painted over my bunk drew, it was a cool bunk.

 

sorry I was logged in under jason, you know who it is though..........

 

brandi you have no idea how much you hurt me you never will, I wanted yo erase your impression on the bus...even if it was cool I didnt want to see you in my reality


roby took over the bunk...hes made his own changes
we have this cat from austin jessica a very cool artist and a very cool soul

we have this dude jacob from ..well hes really from all over but we met him in el paso, jacky as well is from el paso, this is her second bus ride, she was on a vegi bus commune last year, well experienced

we have this dude john as well.....john an odd guy we thought he was on acid the first night we met him....over time we have learned to know what hes about...sort of....even in his scattered conversation he does show his love


there was a post about what this bus is about..and maybe I should just clarify once and for all

its about a bus filled with people , learning and growing,
I have been on the road for about ten years, this is my fourth bus, none of these situations you read about are new, peoples own ideas get in the way of the community, and thats when growth happens..(erin)
I admit in the begining I tried to take hold of all aspects of the trip...my faith in the human race is lacking , people always mess things up and I guess I was just trying to keep tabs on everything...
its changed now, I learned something about myself in the first page of this trip, I cant think for everyone and even if I can people dont want me too.

the way it is now I just take care of my own self, I make sure people make a contribution with there hemp, roby is the enforcer, he brings things to my attention so i am aware of it..but he takes care of all the dirty work...he does a better job then i could in that respect, he doesnt take any crap but he does it with love

food is more of a priority then gas...its a slower ride but I can see more of the country

yes we do drink a lot
and when I mean by a lot at the end of the day we all split a twelve
ooooooo
maybe more then most but were all happy
as for using folk
not at all, in this trip we all put in, there is no minimum donation
but I dont give free rides I built this thing and have gone threw hell for it I will finish it....I just want people to be on the same level
we dont just let people on any more I want people to hang oput with us for a few days before deciding...

any way
road gypsy
sorry we missed eachother though I couldny wait anyl;onger in austin and oddesa from what the locals in austin were telling me is pretty small, and we may have gotten the wrong kind of attention in our big bus....
I give you a shout soon
hahaha winter??? dude man Im from canada!!!
peace
happy highway

 

Hey Drew


I wish you all the luck i have to say it was probally good that you headed the way you did i kind of think we are on different paths and have different thoughts at this point in life. Nothing bad or good just different i will keep an eye on where you are but for now it is good you head to colorado maybe a few months down the road things may change.
BE Happy long life
JEFF

 

I lied, Im spitting out another post. Ive been checking on this periodically but its been a while and well, Drew I wanted to thankyou for letting me know about Tex. John. Thats the first I had heard. He was with me for alot of the time I was on the streets. We've broken through many a riot cop line, been tear gassed time and again and lord knows I should be in the same position as him right now. But him along with all YAR affiliates are some of my dearest friends. Since Ive forsaken my old life I lost touch with him and Bushpig and everyone else. I am still bemoaning, few people realize how intelligent that man was. he had alot to teach. I have kept some of his writings from over the years and its somehow capriciously funny how going over them they seem to mean so much more now. Im going to try and get ahold of some people to verify. Thankyou again, your consideration means alot to me.

On a seperate note. (meant to be anything but antagonistic) As Ulysses said; "I am a product of everything I have known not everything I have seen." A quote I think I read to you while I was on the bus. Anyways, its what i try and guide my travels by. Apparently I misunderstood, from what you said I got the impression that it was your first time East of Quebec. Of course there are many things I wasn't originally aware of that are finally coming to light. I have the rest of my life to get to know (in contrast to getting to see) the country, I would rather take my time and see a bit more than WalMarts, truckstops and Tim Horton's. There's no point in attempting to compare our situations. I did spend my entire childhood moving around and keep in mind I've never shared any of my travels with you, dont assume too much. I have lived in Quebec, Ottawa, Brampton, Orangeville, Mississauga, Caledon East, Toronto, Scarborough, Burlington, Oakville and Mansfield. When I say live I mean actually take up residence and moved my belongings. I spent time with family in Saskatoon Saskatchewan, lived in Calgary and stayed with my uncle while he was at U of BC. The reason I haven't done what you have is because I have no desire to. I may not make it to quite as many places quite as quickly but, I think I'll be the richer for having chosen the path that I have. Quantity or quality right? You've always got to sacrifice a little bit of something. But lord knows I sure as hell couldn't drive a truck for a living...deadlines ugghhh, it makes me sick just thinking about living on someone else's time. I guess we do what we gotta do though. I was in Hamilton last week, man... Genesis and Dante in the same house. Utter insanity. Everyone seems to be doing fairly well. Im sure youve kept in touch with Lindsay so you know she's okay, shes getting big. Its all beautiful though (besides the weather) what familial living is all about. Chloe's email is miss_disasterpiece@hotmail.com.

Hey Brandi, hopefully you will read this, send me an email (nietzchetriggerfinger@hotmail.com) or something and let me know how long you'll be in Knoxville for, i'd like to cross paths again sometime soon. Im planning to be back asap this is quickly becoming a fiasco. I just need some cash first. I'd also like to find out what Ben's web site is since I heard he took the liberty of sticking pictures of me up on it, being the "vain" individual that I apparently am I'd like to take a look. I seem to have alot to work on since with vanity you get a whole slew of other problems like, say for example ignorance. Tell Jason I promise I haven't abandoned him. I want to make sure I have some proper ID and the money situation (and my rat) will all be okay. I talked to james. Im sure youve been in touch, he sounded content to be home, I forgot to get his email as well so if you could forward it, please and thankyou Id be much in debt, Im planning to meet up with him in BC sometime next year after my Knoxville soiree, Ive got a job lined up in Port Alberni, I should have a few months free before I move to Italy so hopefully all the timing will work out. Say hi to jason for me and tell Kira to email me. Hope youre having a good time just dont wear yourself out, its easy to do there.

Erin, Im sure youre having a kick ass time being back with everyone you know, so... hurry up and leave before you become static, you still need to come up to Canada.

Road gypsy your name is by any chance Wolfgang is it? i doubt it is. Dont mean to pry just some interesting connections and associations of individuals that have been popping up lately. Do you ever work festivals?

Okay, I apologize for the length I just dont keep people's emails so if i do develop a need to communicate this is the only way. I swear they start off short but what I lack in conversation I make up for in long winded writings. pheww. Im done. happy trails all.

 

No eclipse i am not wolfgang i am a jeff kind of a boring name next to wolgang but oh well. I never worked festivals i in the old days worked flea markets and a few times fairs and stuff now i pretty much just sell to shops.
So what reminds you of this person in me (just curious) I hope all is well with all the bus and ex bus people sounds like everyone is finding what they need to do in life which is good took me years to find my place in life and life gets alot smoother when you do.
JEFF