Noam Chomski: Antifa Is A Gift To The Right

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  1. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Progressive scholar Noam Chomski claims Antifa fans the flames they seek to extinguish.

    By blocking speeches, resorting to violence , assault, battery, arson etc. the movement is very "self destructive."

    Full article here: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/noam-chomsky-antifa-is-a-major-gift-to-the-right/article/2631786

    I never aligned with Noam's economic philosophy, but I always valued his 2 cents. I think he's right this time. Because only a moron would think it's a good idea to prevent fascism with fascism.
     
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  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's the Hegelian Dialectic at play.
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    I never valued his 2 cents
     
  4. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I knew in advance who made this thread :p
     
  5. Meliai

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    I spent some time on an Antifa facebook page today. They dumb.
     
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  6. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I agree to a degree.

    This is correct about the violent portions of the movement.
     
  7. newo

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    No doubt Antifa needs to become less provocative, they're doing more harm than good. But in the 60's we had the Weathermen, the SDS and the Black Panthers, and in the end the Anti-War movement succeeded despite the riots and the shootings. Likewise the Anti-Trump movement will succeed despite Antifa. We've already had the (hopefully last) equivalent to Kent State in Charlottesville, bringing more Americans against the white supremacists and the President who doesn't condemn them.
     
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    "When confrontation shifts to the arena of violence, it's the toughest and most brutal who win – and we know who that is," said Chomsky

    My problem with his reasoning is that the violence is always way out of any balance. If you have a 10 to 1 advantage, of COURSE you're going to win, but does that define which groups is the "toughest"? I don't think so. People who do that kind of ganging up on others are usually complete wimps when they are singled out. Maybe it's why they hide their faces.

    It's certainly not fear of the cops, who sit on their thumbs once the violence starts.
     
  10. Eleven

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    Isn't it ironic that anarchists, who say they are against government and cops, have appointed themselves arbitars of who deserves free speech?

    I suspect many come from such privileged backgrounds, they have no idea how viscious folks can be on the far right. Which is a second reason they should just stay home.

    See the article "The Atlantic" has on Antifa: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/
     
  11. 6-eyed shaman

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    Mister Liam An Old Mister

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  13. jpdonleavy

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    like some members of the Nazi party who were cruel, eh! Can't tar them all with the same brush - is that what you're saying. It's a fucking herd of Visigoths we're dealing with here.
     
  14. newo

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    Freedom of speech protects you from getting arrested for speaking out, it doesn't protect you from public censure or backlash. I don't like Antifa but I like white supremacists a lot less. 40,000 people showed up in Boston to oppose the so-called free speech rally and the vast majority of them had nothing to do with Antifa. Apparently there's one good thing Antifa does, they get these alt-right gatherings publicized so that counter-protesters can show up in force.
     
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  15. Irminsul

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    Ha ha ha, Antifa, ha ha ha.
     
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  16. Moonglow181

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    I would agree with you, as anyone that can do that to an animal should be put to death.
     
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  19. psymon*

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    I don't like free speech either. I don't like how it gives white people the right to have an opinion about bad things. So I'm with you brother!
     
  20. Eric!

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    If fascism goes unchecked, unchallenged, and not stomped out while it's a small flame, then you will allow it to become a blazing inferno beyond control. People are sick to death of that shit and are tired of a system that allows this rhetoric to go on.
     

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