No Smoking Ban

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by matieu, Apr 8, 2005.

  1. Raelian1

    Raelian1 Member

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    Smoking must be banned period. Cigarette and other smokable drugs can actually destroy your DNA. And second hand smoke pollutes the environments and poses a danger to people within a certain radius.
     
  2. listen to screw

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    My Body, I Choose What Goes In It. If You Dont Like The Second Hand Smoke, Walk Away
     
  3. Dalamar

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    Now that is a valid complaint. I agree that the two sections must be completely separate. Both groups should have equal rights.

    It does seem like the ban effects different states differently. When you break it down further you see that it effects different counties within a state. Perhaps it is just you county?

    I can see why you would think that since you don’t smoke. If you did smoke, trust me you would understand and would not think it is silly.
     
  4. fat_tony

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    Im very anti-smoking. If people want to kill themselves fine, jump off a bridge, it'll be less painfull then having you lungs removed piece by piece. Though my main reason is selfish, if you jump off a bridge you dont take me with you.
     
  5. Dalamar

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    All I have to say is that if you drive a car, use power, heat your home, cook on a stove, purchase anything made from plastic........... Then your augment has zero credibility with me since these things are killing you a lot faster (either directly or indirectly) than second hand smoke ever will!
     
  6. fat_tony

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    Except I choose to do it. I dont mind me killing me, I mind other people doing it for me. Besides if industry tried to release the chemicals that are in cigs then it would be closed down faster than it could say lung cancer. I use plenty of carcenogenic chemicals at work, but I choose to work with them, dont think they're as bad as cigarettes anyway.
     
  7. Dalamar

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    Do you really think so? Factories and other industries release more chemicals, toxins and other carcinogens than then you realize. So I guess that means you are not choosing since you are obviously completely unaware of the dangers. I guess you will be quitting you job now, right! After all you don’t want them killing you(against your will)! Afraid the keys to your car have to go to. Doesn’t that just suck.

    Look I am not saying that non smokers should have no rights. I have tried to make that clear throughout this thread. Restaurants, bars, clubs etc should have separate smoking and non smoking sections. No I don’t believe that people who don’t smoke should be forced to endure smoke blown in their face while trying to eat. My goal is to ensure equal rights for both groups.
     
  8. wonderboy841

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    Smoke em if you got em i like smoke its like the devil burning inside me just wanting to hold onto my lungs and rip my body apart from the inside thats why i smoke and i don't mind if people hate smokers because you have two choices you could walk away or you could smoke.
     
  9. fat_tony

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    I guess like all these things some industries are better than others. Traditionally the more guilty part of industry has been mass production because the quantities are great and proper disposal becomes a nightmare. Also its very hard to protect your workers in a huge production plant. Indeed I do sometimes despair when drive past chemical plants smelling those sweet smells. Esters and benzene derivatives often smell sweet and many of those chemicals are carcinogenic. I totally agree with you that working in such a plant would be very bad for your health. I work in a lab so its different, amounts are smaller some of the substances are less well known and precautions are easier to take. Though I guess my exposure is probably above average.

    I suppose its all a game of risk. I enjoy my job im prepared to take that small extra risk, perhaps I wouldnt be prepared to do it without a well equipped lab. I enjoy mountaineering but not enough to do it without safety gear. I might get hit by a bus tomorrow but that doesnt mean i should go walking in bus lanes. I might get a nasty disease but to get it because of smoking? come on, to this day ive never even tried smoking so I may be missing the attraction but is it really worth you life?
     
  10. blazednconfused

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    no, not at all. please dont take away ALL my rights. if they ban smoking in all places, im moving to canada.
     
  11. Dalamar

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    I thought there was a smoking ban in Canada as well. If not I just might be right behind you! :)
     
  12. underplay

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    Then most businesses will have to spend money making those places and managing them, what if a business is not large enough to have both non smoking and smoking? if you are in smoking the smoke is still polluting the air and the employees. Smoking is harmful to others, and should be banned in all public buildings.


    Thats not taking away your rights, they are saying you CAN smoke, just not in a public area where your smoking is harming others, its really common sense.
     
  13. Apples+Oranjes

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    I didn't read through this but it's pretty self-explanatory...
    Anyway, being a smoker, I'd be uber pissed if there was no where that I could smoke...but at the same time, I might be glad... I've been wanting to quit for a couple years...maybe making it harder for me to smoke would help me quit.

    But, I'd like to see those officials and authorities deal with me when I'm withdrawling... I become Super Bitch XXX
     
  14. dreadlockswampy

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    Well I've quit for 7 months now & I have my own house with house mates
    as it's my house I've banned them from smoking down stairs, I don't mind they smoking in their room, but not down stairs, can't say fairer than that can I ?
     
  15. blazednconfused

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    just not in public places? so that elimates everywhere but your house and car. so by doing that they're just making it harder for us to smoke, if they pass some bullshit like that, garunteed that 5 years later (if that) they'll ban smoking altogether.
     
  16. Apples+Oranjes

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    i think it's fair. my dad smokes, and i do too but we still don't smoke in the house. it just keeps it smelling better

    I actually like it, because when I'm at home I don't chainsmoke since I have to go outside
     
  17. dreadlockswampy

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    I let them smoke downstairs for hthe first few months, then it started to irritate me abit then it was the W'kends only then finaly none at all
    the placee just stank, I couldn't take it anymore now it smells alot nicer :)
     
  18. Dalamar

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    Believe it or not most businesses are more than willing to pay the costs of modifying their restaurants to keep their smoking customers.

    Yes everyone is always quick to say we have to protect the employees but, no one asked the employees how they feel about it. Most waiter/waitresses smoke and even those that don’t smoke have no issues with a separate smoking/non-smoking sections. Like I said way back in this thread, it is the little people who get hurt the most by the ban. Smokers who do still go to restaurants don’t stay as long or spend as much. They just eat and run. They don’t stick around for things like desert or drinks which in the end results in less tips. That does not even take into account the people who lost their jobs all together because of less customers.
     
  19. blazednconfused

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    i hope not! this whole "smoking ban" is getting rediculous around here.
     
  20. fat_tony

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    They're looking at introducing one in the UK, I hope they hurry. To work with class 2 and 3 carcinogens in a fume cupboard and thick gloves. I leave work and some idiot next to me is sticking class 1 carcinogens in his mouth. Might as well drink a pint of bleach do a line of blue asbestos and get it over with.
     
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