No Smoking Ban

i think naykid raises an incredibly valid point about the carcinogens from car exhaust and thats something a lot of us really overlook...

and i also think its a very valid point if smokings been shown to cause cancer via second hand smoking. i personally dont drive or smoke ciggerates, so you can all go to hell.. lol ,,

but really, i think its a matter of personal choice though so i guess im with naykid on this one.. if people were informed we wouldnt need rules like this, or ciggerates... if you care about your lungs that much then just dont go to the bar or go to an outdoor one or stay away from people when they smoke, and if enough of you truely care about it you can start a bar that is smoke free, or has a smoke free sections(dont they have those already?) it doesnt seem that complicated...

 

All i know, is smoking sucks to a non-smoker, but never bothered me when i was a smoker. I can see how people do not want it in bars or restaurants where they go.

 

i've skipped the previous five pages, and i think that the less places people can smoke, the better. as someone said above, no one (well, hardly no one ) likes smelling like cigarette smoke, nor having to hold their breath so they don't breath it in, and plus it's just so much better for the environment, as much as we can cut down on our own filth, the better


^ my two cents

 

sounds good to me.

 

thats our boda

 

I think there should be a no smoking ban in all places but bars. I knwo that happened county wide where I am at but they allow it at bars...It convenient...

 

Here's some problems I have with this:
1. How many people do you know who drive deisal? (besides the people who diliver my tabbaco I mean)

2. A pack a day smoker smokes 0.67 cigs in a half hour. 3 cigarretes in a half hour is unrepresentive as is...

3....a car running at idle as opposed to one being driven.


But just to be fair tell you what, you lock yourself in an airtight room with an engine running for a half hour and I'll do the same with 3 cigarretes burning and we'll check back here tommorow and compare notes.

 

Well said!

That had to be one of the most biased reports I have ever heard of and is complete BS.

 

I did not mean to sound hostile (because I wasn’t) but honestly, does that report sound even remotely plausible to you? I understand that this is a hot topic and people on both sides have strong opinions about it but lets be real.

I am not someone who believes that non smokers should have to endure cigaret smoke blown in their face while eating at a restaurant. However, a restaurant should be allowed to maintain a separate smoking area that is ventilated for their customers that do smoke.

 

Good.

 

didnt new york city jsut make a an ordinance about no smoking on the streets or on balconies?

i think thats stupid as shit. being a smoker, id rather jsut have to step outside then inside. think about it....you have to go and find a building that its ok to smoke in, that could take a while.

 

Don’t be surprised if your local anti-smoking law is overturned since the state wide ban failed. In my state, one county passed a law banning smoking in all public places. Our highest state court overturned the county ban saying that it effected state commerce and therefore only the state legislature can pass such a ban. Later, I think it was about a year, a state wide ban was passed. I can tell you that it does effect business which in turn has effected employment, quality of services and even price of food in restaurants.

Unfortunately there is no solution that will make everyone happy. Most anti-smokers want to outlaw smoking completely. Even if a restaurant had 2 separate buildings one for smokers and one for non smokers the non smokers would still not be happy. On the other hand, speaking for myself as a smoker, I do believe the rights of non smokers should be protected which is why I am in favor of separate, ventilated smoking sections and no smoking in other areas.

Smokers understand that smoking is dangerous to peoples health and have no issue with segregated smoking sections.

Now, that study states that one cigarette causes more air pollution than a diesel fueled car. The fact that people actually agree with that is very telling. Such a comment is so absurd that it defies even basic logical thinking.

 

People should be allowed to smoke outside no matter where they are at. They have that right, its their bodies, if someone else doesnt like it then they can walk away from it.

There should be a ban in public buildings on the inside. That is harming everyone.

 

I don't understand why you would band tobacco. Is it your choice whether or not you go to a public restaurant, or walk into the smoking section of a bar or store? Yes it is, almost all the time. You have your choices and you make them, just as people that smoke have their choices. I think the whole Land of the Free slogan is a joke. No ones free, really. Everyones trying to pass new laws every five seconds to turn you into another one of their company owners with a leash around your neck. Do I support protesting? Yes, I'm an activist, but honestly. I don't think it should be the governments job in telling me whether or not I should put that fag to my lips, anymore than it is their right to tell you if you can or cannot go to an area that has sections for smoking. It just isn't their place. If they hate tobacco so much then why don't they shut down the amazingly numerous tobacco companies ascending today? It just doesn't make sense. I always feel I'm just talking to hear myself speak on these kind of subjects. Nothing gets through so why waste your breath, ya know.

peace
kels

 

I love smoking bans. Smoking is nauseateing and it is an infringement on non-smoker's rights to be forced to inhale someone else's secondhand smoke. Yuck. I can't stand smokers, you are all very inconsiderate, littering and polluting constantly.