No Hippies in Gen Z

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by Wolverine97, Dec 28, 2023.

  1. Wolverine97

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    My generation loves to believe whatever the mainstream media tells them. Almost every person I talk to is the same. If you disagree with them, you are automatically a bigot.

    Nobody tries to understand the viewpoints of others. They are so entitled as to think their views are the correct ones and don't require further examination or challenging.

    There isn't really a middle ground. Nobody cares to create peaceful solutions. The peace only lasts as long as their views are not challenged.

    I could go on forever about the unfortunate state of gen Z, but quite honestly talking about it makes me upset. I fear for the day when the true hippies are no more. Nobody will be left to teach.

    Not that most people would listen. But there are some.
     
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  2. Etherea

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    Maybe you could start by taking what you have said here to others in your generation.
    Challenge view points, get people talking.
    Ask questions that are clearly going to upset the apple cart.
    Your destiny is in your own hands.
     
  3. jball45

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    Our children do what we teach them to do. You should start with their parents.
     
  4. Toker

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    I think it's too late for either generation. Are Gen Zs parents Gen X? That could explain a lot.

    I noticed a lot of Millennials are similar to the hippies, more liberal, very freedom oriented, open minded, concerned about the environment and the future.
     
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  5. Etherea

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    Yet to meet many people who think and act they way we did in late 60s early 70s. They are out there but not in enough numbers.
     
  6. Echtwelniet

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    Youth get talked down for not doing/standing for anything and wenn they do stand/protest for something they get the same...........*sigh*

    But it is not just about youth..........and labels.............If there are enough people(young or old) who want a better more peacefull world...............try to teach them something.

    The real "hippie" feeling, i dont think that is ever gonna happen again..............sign of times.



    Mzzls
     
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  7. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    I’m X, early, and my kid is Millenial.
     
  8. princess peedge

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    Can you give some examples here? I am constantly amazed by how in tune Gen Z is. These kids are inspirational. I don't know any who consume mainstream media, let alone believe it.

    And what do you mean every person you talk to is the same?

    If you disagree with them you're automatically a bigot?

    I'm sorry, but this is empty rhetoric. I'm not trying to be mean and mean no offense, but this reads like older conservatives' anti Gen Z talking points.

    Also, you're talking about my kid here
     
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  9. LoverLexi

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    I am an gen z, This seems like an anti Gen z post


    Firstly with the mainstream media I would argue that we are much more informed and capable of viewing things from different sides due to the internet. I am aware of echo chambers(I think that's what they are called) but to assume that all people in a generation are the same is generalization.
    Please give some examples of what you have tried discussing with others and how they have responded.
     
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  10. granite45

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    Yeah I’m a boomer and it seems my generation is full of uneducated idiocracy. They are the core of support for T, rejected vaccines after their ass was saved multiple times….Salk anyone? They elected RR who made the US safe for the wealthy, and have resurfaced ugly racism. They believe anything floating thru the ozone including faux news. We have no right to disparage the following generations after smearing the landscape with right wing fecal matter.

    only the hippies were a fire of light in a dismal generation.
     
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  11. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    I have a grandson that is Gen Z, and oh my God!

    He lives in my house and I am supporting him, and there's an awful lot I could say about the unbelievable level of entitlement, but I won't.

    But how the hell do these kids date? I mean, we baby boomers looked at girls. Girl watching was a normal thing that all heterosexual guys did. And flirting---I love to flirt!
    If you looked at a girl and she looked at you, and then she glanced back, you knew you had a chance. Then there was that game you'd play with a girl that was a sure thing she liked you----where you'd catch her looking and she'd turn away, and she'd catch you looking and you'd turn away, and that would go back and forth, and you knew you could then hit on her and take her out.

    I still look at girls, and I will never stop. But these Gen Z girls seem to be offended that you would look at them. I'm not staring like a pervert, I'm not cat calling, or anything else, just looking, and they glare back. I mean what the hell? Do they not flirt anymore? Can you not check out a hot chick?

    Or is it that we old hippies are no longer fit for the real world anymore?

    My grandson has asked me, how I met so many girls. He asked my son how he meets girls. Apparently he doesn't know how to talk to girls!

    He thinks its gross and it really irritates him when a young girl shows interest in me. There are young girls that flirt with me at the grocery store or other places I may go regularly and they know me, and really it bugs him. He blames it on me, but I'm married and I'm not trying to pick up girls. And some of these girls I never even flirted with. I'm just friendly with everyone.
     
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  12. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    I have a hard time understanding this, and then I have to remind myself that really, most people were squares. Even with the people I hung out with in High School there were those who kept their hair short, and rarely smoked weed if at all. They were the ones who's dad would angrily call my dad and complain---"Your son took my son to an underground bookstore! And told him to wave at the FBI cameras across the street as they went in!"

    Among my friends, I am pretty sure that I was the only one that had maps and a plan of how to get into Canada if need be (the Peace Corp was no longer taking people unless you were an engineer or had some other advanced skill they needed). I would ask them, would you be able to go and kill a Vietnamese farmer (Viet Cong) who simply wanted his land back, that was promised to him after the French left? We were very lucky that the draft ended right before we came of age. Some of them would say if they got drafted they would be a medic or do something that would not involve killing, and I would respond, does it ,matter if you are pulling the trigger, or just helping pull the trigger. But I don't think any of them cared enough about the ethics of it to even take a stand. The whole scene was just a fad for them. And it was disappearing. In my sister's class, I don't think there were many people that grew their hair out.

    But there were a couple of long-haired freaks I knew that today think Trump is going to save the world.
     
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    I try not to generalize to (as I just finished righting an anti-Gen Z post that generalized everyone LMAO!)

    But seriously, I agree and try to see people individually. But what would you say to what I wrote in Post #11?

    Are we not supposed to look at girls anymore?
     
  14. LoverLexi

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    Provided you aren't staring there isn't anything wrong with that in my opinion.(Unless they are minors) You can't be upset if someone glares back at you, that's a reasonable reaction to some random dude looking at you.

    Such people have always existed, I don't think it has anything to do with the generation he was born in. Socially awkward people have always existed(I'm not saying he is one) but the majority of people aren't like this.

    This just sounds like jealousy.

    I think Gen z is more politically involved and aware of what is happening because of the internet. Even though it has lots of issues, I do think we are relatively well informed generation and I would like to think a majority of people are politically active or at least aware of what is happening
     
  15. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    I don't know, I've spent my whole life looking at girls, not staring mind you, and I've gotten smiles back, I've gotten sidfe glances, and I've been ignored, and so forth. But being glared at is something that has only happened over the past few years, and especially over the past year. I'm not used to that.



    Yes that is true. But someone from my generation would certainly wonder if all the texting and the lack of experience in actual human interaction would play a role in this. But he does admit to being a bit introverted.



    I have considered that as well. My wife is a very beautiful Filipina with some Chinese ancestry, and her genes produced very attractive and beautiful offspring, and they in turn are producing very beautiful and attractive offspring as well. My youngest grandaughter, for example, will probably look just like Audrey Hepburn. As far as my grandson, his father is African-American, and he's very good looking. I would think that girls would be all over him. But I guess if he is too shy, he could be jealous of that.




    I do have to commend the young people on that. I am very proud of how they are protesting for Palestinians and the BLM protests as well. I have been saying for a decade or two that rights are being threatened and the level of injustices, including racial injustices, is growing and we are too old to fight like we once did. The torch must be passed on to a new generation and it looks like this is the generation that is taking up the call.

    I guess if I were to make a suggestion, putting it into the framework of Friedrich Nietzsche, I would say that the forces they are rising up against are Apollonian, and this means they need to embrace the Dionysian. The hippies embodied the Dionysian. Nietzsche argued that these are the two forces at play within human culture. When the Apolloian becomes too strong culture collapses into decadence and then we see the collapse of a culture or even a civilization. Only the Dionysian can counteract that. I wrote an article about this titled, Where Art Thou Ubermensch, and there is a copy of it somewhere on this forum. I believe in the Philosophy section.
     
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    I think it stopped with Millennials because I was born in 1990 and this is exactly how we flirted in school, from elementary to middle and even in high school. (I'm class of 2008.)

    I'm not sure where things went wrong. Perhaps the bigger social media got, the worse due to unrealistic expectations and being able to just "text" or "follow" someone on social media.

    I mean, Myspace was definitely a thing in 2006-2009 but something just feels entirely different than now.
     
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    It seems to me that I've heard that most often from folks who frequently feel the need to preface their statements with "I'm not a bigot, but..."
     
  18. wooleeheron

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    The public has simply become increasingly reactionary, in direct proportion to how thoroughly conservatives have censored half of reality.

    Both academia and conservatives are attempting to hide the truth, that a theory of everything would expose all of them as blatant liars.
     

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