Hey kid, I lived back in the 50s, and I know what was going on back then, and some people did played around, but it was never like today. I have never seen such an immoral generation like we got now, not in my whole life. When I was growing up the big thing was to kiss a girl, not to have sex with her. And i'm 54 years old so I have seen a few things. In my day Africa was not dieing off because of Aids. And Christian faith was not a religion or a church, it was a belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. When He removes the real Church most of the people in the churches today will be left behind. Along with many of the priest. The church that I attended never said sex was evil, but in marriage was a wonderful thing, and part of God's plan. The women are not here to be used for your selfish gradification. They are to be loved and respected. They are not your personal sex doll, and to many guys look at them like tyhat. And then when when there is an accident and she gets pregnant they have to kill the kid because that would get in the way of thier sex lives. What an evil and sick generation. And Mother Natures, real name is Jesus Christ who you and all people will answer to. And obviously you know nothing about the prophecies just like so many of them in the church. The blind will lead the blind and they will both fall in the pit.
That is because back in the 50's it was hidden but was still there. Again your looking at the surface. People always think the past was better but be it past, present and future there are all fucked up. Right, but Women like sex too. I agree there is too much shallow sex but sex for mutual pleasurement is a wonderful thing inside and out of marriage. This is the problem the church is aginst contraception or teaching birthless forms of sexual pleasurement. The church is even aginst self pleasurement so you can't win with the church. So I do agree with you but my solution is being honest and open. Yet abortion is needed as a temporary solution to the efforts church. Dude you just made a huge sin, you put Jesus above God. Only God is God, remeber Jesus is only the son of God or the messiah (or simply a messiah) depending on who you ask. So the correct answer would be Mother Natures real name is God. Anyway there are tons of religions all saying they know the truth about God. It is a crap shoot for example Islam could be right and both of us go to hell:X Seeing as you made the sin of calling Jesus God your not one to criticize.
Jesus is God, I and the Father are one. If you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father. Islam does not have the fulfilled prophecies the bible does. And abortion which is muder should never be a solution, unless you think like Hitler. The bible speaks the truth you obviously know nothing about it's prophecies. Yet you try to speak hear like you know what u are talking about. And if you knew about the prophecies you would understand how little time we have left.
I am offended. Just because YOU do not agree with abortions gives you no right to call someone who thinks they are ok (in certian situations) a person who "thinks like Hitler". We are all different. We all come from different walks of life. And we all are born into different belief systems...or develope our our set of beliefs. Either way...I respect others who's beliefs are different from mine, and I take high offense to someone who makes comments like that. We can agree to disagree on the abortion issue. But please...there is no need to compare half of our society to Hitler.
No Jesus is not God and is a sin to belive Jesus is God. Your are only suppose to pray and worship God and Jesus just died for your sins. When you die you only get to judged by Jesus if you accept his sacrifice for your sins if not you have to be judged by God (suppose to be harder). How the fuck can you have a option of judgment if Jesus and God is the same?
What I mostly see is FEAR Who ? What ? When ? Why ? Where ? How ? Be scared Buh ! The topic is a so "politicaly" sensible one I am far from making fun of it in my life Don't flame me I don't mean anyone is better than another Was that an expression of FEAR?
It really bothers me to see how smug some of the Christians are in their presentation of certain beliefs. It may be alright to believe that abortion has much in common with the holocaust (though I don't believe it at all; for one thing, the element of malice is not present with abortion as it was with the holocaust), or in a definitive interpretation of the meaning of Babylon in scripture, but to insist on these things as if they are definitely true comes across as unwarranted intellectual pride. I know it well, as I'm often guilty of it myself!
Well Hitler came from a different walk of life, and he was born into a different belief system, and he developed his own set of beliefs. Should we respect him because his beliefs were different from ours. Hitler killed them out of the womb you think it's ok to kill them in the womb. What's the difference? Murder is murder. Sorry you are offended, but legal murder offends me.
No, Jesus is God. In the Old testament (Isaiah 44:24) it states that Jehovah created all things and the Earth alone and by Himself, yet the New testament (John 1:3) states that Jesus created all things. SO TELL ME, WHO CREATED ALL THINGS, WAS IT JESUS, OR JEHOVAH? You might want to read John 1:10
So if you murder a person without MALICE that makes it ok. WOW. I did not come to the understanding of Babylon by intellectuall works, but by the Spirit of God, who is now showing this truth to christians around the earth. Human reason is not the proper way to understand the scriptures. It is the Holy Spirt that reveals the deeper secrets to those who seek God's knowledge. I ask God to show me these things, and one year latter while I was staying in an old farm house up in Minnesota He did. He is a God of wonder, who is soon to return.
Even Jesus never said he was God and if Jesus is God, it is a plot hole that disproves the whole thing. For starters if Jesus was God he would be immortial and we would have never been able to hurt or kill him also if true that Jesus is God then Jesus DIDN'T die for our sins since your can't sacrifice Jesus to God if God is Jesus so instead it means we killed God and that can't be good.
PLEASE, go look up some information on the Trinity before you write anymore. In a atom there is the proton, the electron and the neutron they are all different parts but make up ONE object. Similar to the atom the Trinity is composed of three heads: the father (God), the son (Jesus), and the holy spirit. Different parts but all ONE. Jesus was 100% man and 100% God.
So now the holy spirt is also God? Right but Jesus didn't always exist. You have way to many problems pop up with the Trinity as: God minus Jesus (as God has yet to create Jesus) taking note God is not finite in any respect (else God would only be a god and not the God) then you add Jesus (Really don't matter here if he is finite or not) to the infinite power of God and you have a change in reality because as soon as you add, it becomes finite there was a change so now even if God was all powerful, God instantly was not all powerful before Jesus. Also time is not a problem here, it makes no differnece if as soon as it happened it always been as it is a logic problem.
I did not write that abortion was "ok," but that comparing it with the holocaust is a very poor analogy. Twisting the word of others is not a very appealling trait. The apostle Paul wrote that he became all things to all people. By that, he did not mean that he ever compromised his beliefs, but rather, that he tried to communicate with people in a way that they could understand. Rather than drive people away through arrogance, he met people where they were. His sermon on Mars Hill is an example of this. I cannot imagine that very many people would want whatever spirit it is that you have. The spirt of arrogance does not have the ring of truth.
You really need to actually read the bible if you want to debate the topic. It's obvious you know little or nothing about the bible. You are leaning on human reason to try and understand, and that will only lead you into more confusion. You say Jesus never said He was God. Yet Jesus told His followers that if you have seen Me you have seen the Father. You say that if Jesus was God we would have never been able to kill Him. The only thing the world was able to kill was the human body that was Jesus human existance. His spirit which was part of His being remained intact. It was His human body that became the sacrifice not His spirit. And I'm still waiting for you to answer my last question which was. Did Jesus create the earth and all things or did Jehovah? Looking forward to your answer. Please don't make me ask this question a third time.
Jesus always existed, and this is pointed out in 1 John 5:7. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. God exist eternally as three persons but one God. Even in the book of Genesis when God created man He said let us make man in our image, and after our likeness: He was addressing the two other persons of the trinity. That is why God did not say let Me or I make man in my image. Also Jesus eternal existance is spoken of in John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
I did a long time ago but stoped when I found far too many plot holes. de omnibus dubitandum; everything must be doubted. Now the idea is God is not a bad theory just no proof so it can stand up to doubt since there is no proof either way yet there are parts of theology that can't stand up to logic thus much be tossed aside as false since God must be logical and follow logic. Could have easily ment God is in each of us. Some say Jesus did learn Buddhism so it is a solid theory and would means Jesus was tring to say God is everywhere and everyone. This is very logical as he was saying this to the Jewish community and was tring to reform Judaism so it makes more sence that Jesus was going over their heads instead Jesus really meaing he was the God that he should have known would piss them off and do more damage then good. Yet all of our spirts are suppose to be immortial anyway the point is Jesus was mortial at least when he was alive he was also he didn't seem to have very much power to prove he was God. I don't view the universe in such silly ways since I would think if God wanted to tell a story to us he would get much better writers also it would hit every culture around the world at the same time. If you ask me either the Earth created it self or some God did.
I have no clue how you could possibly not compare the holocaust to what is happening with abortion in America today. This pratice was invented in Hell.To see little children laying in buckets and tossed in dumpsters is the most evil thing I have witinessed in my life. If you see these children and you see their blood on the ground and not be revolted by this you must be as cold as the doctors who murder these kids. Call me what ever you will, they call Christ those same names for bring the truth, they did not want to hear. This sick and evil society is no different. I'm not worried about driving people away, America has about 30 years left, if these people want the freedom to kill babies then they got it. The warning I'm giving out is the God they mock is going to destroy this nation. God is going to allow northern nations to rise up against us. And these nations will destroy all of America's cities in one hours time.
Because for the most part it is not racist, classist or sexist. Also they have yet to exist so not as bad as extermination of a race. Go to a slaughter house and watch cows get killed. It is actually worse as the cows know their gona die. So I'm suppose to care about a God that is evil enough to kill countless people? Fuck that.