new to acid and need help!

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by justenjoylife111, May 18, 2010.

  1. kokujin

    kokujin Senior Member

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    we really can't get mad 'cuz he made his own decision. we can still say it was a stupid one tho. :D
     
  2. matt2993

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    Doing acid this Saturday for my first time. Me and one of my friends (maybe 2) plan on taking 1 and a half hits that I'm getting on Friday. Weather is sunny and warm, spending the whole day at the beach where there is nice green grass with shady trees in a bunch of areas. Its not a secluded place but there are definitely areas where you are all alone and can just be off to yourself so I got a really good feeling that the setting will be good.

    This is gonna be me and my buddy's first time doing it, should we just do 2 hits each to make sure it's gonna be a legit first time? cause i'm gonna have 6 total and want to have some for atleast 1 more trip. I have no idea when I'll be getting more again. And the guy I'm getting it from, said he had a really great trip off 1 and a half hits and that it wasnt dissapointing.

    And I was wondering, are there really any different kinds of acid? Cause today my friend asked me what kind it was and if it was sunshine acid. when he said that i was like wtf, its just acid dude, the only differences are by who's making it and putting it on the blotter. But I dont know everything about acid so i figured I'd throw this out there just to be clear
     
  3. Doobie60

    Doobie60 Senior Member

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    That's basically what I was trying to say :D
     
  4. autumnbreeze

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    Well,

    If you want to have more for later, and your friend said you'd be good with 1.5, go ahead and do that. No need to go for broke the first time. If you enjoy it, it will come back around. Acid has a way of finding acid heads(or is it the other way around? :p )

    As to different types, not really. Chemically speaking, lsd is lsd. It's like asking about different brands of caffeine. The dosage might be different, the delivery different, but the chemical is going to do the same thing.

    Though...this isn't 100% true. Acid is hard to make. It's usually synthesized from materials extracted from one of a couple different plants/fungi. Each of those original organics has a stack of other amides in it, many of which are pharmacologically active. An improper extraction can leave some of those in the finished product, an imperfect synthesis can leave lsa or other active chemicals. Age can break lsd down, often into yet again other chemicals. This can lead to varying affects from lsd depending on source.

    So sometimes particular makers, or particular method designers, give fun trippy names to their product. Difficulty of course is by the time the stuff has wandered through enough hands, some names have changed a few times. They're not really useful for much unless there is some consistency in your local circle for which batches have which names. And even then it's only really useful for describing a particular batch or possibly a particular source.

    Like, you get a really nice hit one time, and are told it is purple sunshine. That sticks in your head. Later, you get some more from someone who says, 'Hey, this is more of that purple sunshine'. If you trust that person, you kow you're getting more of that good stuff. Much later, down the line, you and your friends reminisce, talking about how you just can't get acid like you used to, remember that sunshine back then? Or describe some great score as being like it, to get your friends excited.

    So...yeah, the answer to that one is yes and no. :p

    Also, one big trouble with saying 'this batch is good, that is bad' is that you are generally going to be affected on most levels by set and setting -way- more then you will be by the quality of the lsd. If there are any drugs where the placebo effect has the opportunity to come out it full force, psychedelics are them. So you'll have different degrees of apparent potency, and different physical symptoms, often from the same batch. So... Shrug.
     
  5. matt2993

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    ^^^thanks a lot for the response man, definitely cleared some things up
     
  6. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Yes, but any impurities left from synthesis or from degradation are not going to be active in microgram levels as would be found on a blotter hit or even a drop of liquid. That is something that has been confirmed by lab analysis.
    The most common degradation product and synthesis by-product is iso-lsd, which is totally inert and inactive.

    But I will say I have had some that seemed more "mellow" and some that seemed more "speedy", but is that a chemical effect or a placebo suggestion as you mentioned?
     
  7. autumnbreeze

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    Hmm, really? Interesting. I was under the impression that lsa and several other ergot amides were active at mcg levels. Not highly psychotropic, but enough to affect the body high. Dunno. Got a link to studies? would like to see that.

    I have also run into some that was more mellow, some more speedy. And I have -certainly- run into entire batches that had a vicious body load, and really low head trip. Could be set/setting and placebo effects in action. So hard to say, the effects of lsd are in your head, and so are really subject to where your head is at. The possibility also exists that the 'bad acid' I've gotten a couple times was actually something else. Very few chemicals are active at small enough doses to fit on blotter, but there are a few. 5-meo-amt(Alpha,O-DMS) is one, for instance.

    I actually really feel a need to hunt some of that out, and test it so I know what it feels like. So that if it ever shows up pretending to be acid I'll know for certain.
     
  8. autumnbreeze

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    Oh, and just because I feel a need to kill this urban legend at every opportunity: No, the body load from lsd has nothing to do with strychnine. Nobody has ever found any on any blotter really ever, despite vast amounts of street acid being tested. Not to mention that strychnine is certainly -not- one of those chemicals that is active at the mcg level. A minimal dose for feeling the effects of strychnine would require you to replace the entire blotter, paper and all with pure strychnine. And even then, the effects would be mild.

    Most of you probably already knew that, but I am continually shocked by the number of people who continue to believe that old chestnut.
     
  9. justenjoylife111

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    start wit one to make sure you kknow you wont be doing to much. blah blah....i started off with just one and had a fun time...everything was so funny literally havent laughed that long and hard in ages!!! nd colors were chaning and everything looked like pop up book
     
  10. spexxx

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    Even when I was at the pinnacle of my fried-ness / sorta bad-trip, I certainly knew how to bike to a friends house. I was completely gone too. But I guess you'll find out if that applies to you bro, lol.
     
  11. neodude1212

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    Once you learn how to ride a bicycle you never ever fucking forget.
     
  12. DiscFour

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    This actually doesn't sound TOO far off base. People can subdue a lot of things when they are completely focused on a task. Take tourette's syndrome, for instance: people will not 'tick' when they are doing something like rock climbing or playing the piano. But you can't keep that up forever.
     
  13. joe bloggs

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    Did you quote the right person? I think you meant to quote someone else. Your response doesn't really fit with my lecturing of the irresponsible kid.
     
  14. DiscFour

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    You are absolutely right. I should check my posts before I post. Fixed.
     
  15. Doobie60

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    Yes! Someone who agrees with me :D And I get what you're saying about tourette's because I used to have it :coffee:
     
  16. joe bloggs

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    Haha funny note about tourette's. My friend was tripping ballz and due to unfortunate circumstance we had to endure a car ride with my mom. I was tripping much less hard than him and explained to her that his tripping mumbling was because he had tourette's. It covered up rather nicely. Since this experience I am much more responsible with my psychedelic usage and do better to avoid that type of encounter.
     

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