New new deal

Discussion in 'Democracy' started by DarthDva, Feb 15, 2021.

  1. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    This put Darth firmly on the authoritarian side of political thinking, the same philosophy that had Fascists putting people in concentration camps and Communists locking people away in Siberian gulags.

    As Darth explains in their philosophy there is little or no tolerance for questions, dissent or opposing arguments - history has shown that when such people gain power it never ends well.
     
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  2. Balbus

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    As said this is a authoritarian doctrine and this mindset it even more clear when you examine the persons policies.

    Enforcement is the main theme not rational argument, not persuasion, not empathy or understanding or compromise, measures will be forced on people by diktat, banning is the order of the day and of course dissent or opposing arguments will NOT be tolerated

    In many cases ‘freedom’ is decided on through government scrutiny.

    The personal has to be publically and officially qualified to see if it fits in with the ‘correct’ behaviour only the approved will be allowed - it reminds me of the ants slogan from The once and future king - Everything not forbidden is compulsory - and the ants would have also agreed with Darth that dissent or opposing arguments would not be tolerated.
     
  3. Balbus

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    But above all what I think we have here is a fantasist, a fascistic fantasist, but a fantasist nonetheless.

    I read such things as these posts and especially that list and i don’t know if the right response is to laugh or be worried for this person. To wonder if this a genuine call for help or a wind up.

    Should I feel sympathy or contempt.

    But we have to remember that this is not a psychiatrist's chair its a politics forum, a place to debate politic and if people are unwilling to debate and discuss the things they promote on this forum then i don’t think this is the place for them.
     
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    I seriously and passionately will follow the banned if darth's writings are censored .
     
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  5. DarthDva

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    Your reasoning seems quite convoluted.

    You are the person in authority right now, not I. Yet you pretend to play the victim here. When its you egging me on and making demands/accusations.

    You made accusations and demanded I respond in order to disprove your accusations. Yet you claim I'm the fascist who has low tolerance for outside opinions. With a bunch of added hyperbole about concentration camps and other made up bs. When I simply said I don't have tolerance or patience to 24/7 debate insulting and accusatory people such as you. And somehow wanting some peace and quiet, having a limited tolerance for being attacked by angry mobs, is somehow equivalent to "putting people in concentration camps" apparently. Maybe you never learnt what boundaries or personal space meant in society. If people could post without starting every post with an ad hom maybe I would be more likely to post more quickly.

    I did make a mild criticism of both right and left in my OP. Hardly comparable to a string of direct ad hom personal attacks and ludicrous accusations. I made the criticism because I know how this rigged game goes, simply predicting the future and knowing how the right and left operates. I noticed a lot of people here get easily offended at blanket statements against their ingroup, for instance some people here seem to get offended at someone criticizing the State of Carolina. I feel like I am within my rights to criticize right and left wing without having to receive ad homs about it. And yeah I called leftists shills. Wasn't a personal attack but a blanket statement. And it definitely wasn't an ad hom because they are shills. They call me a fascist meanwhile they are the fascists that want to ban guns and treat mentally ill as if they don't deserve human rights. Oh and before you pull some anecdotal examples about how I adhommed that guy in another thread, let me remind you that he immediately opened his post with an adhom telling me I need to "get help". It seems a lot of users here are like that, I know a relative who did hard drugs and the drugs kind of made them behave in that kind of manner, I am assuming a lot of users here have done hard drugs since this seems to be a forum about drugs. And maybe I have been rather hard on leftists in other threads, but its a bit like Nazis going around trying to put jews in ghettos, when I hear leftists trying to ban guns of the mentally ill. And people don't recognize it because of the Narrative that leftists are good, so they don't ever wonder if they are the bad guys. Humans who don't learn from history often repeat it.
     
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  6. DarthDva

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    That's how it works in the real world. Governments make laws. I'm the one living in reality here.

    The only reason you claim by ideas are "fantasy" is because backwards humans want to keep their backwards status quo and keep living their low quality of life. Nothing I said actually violates the laws of physics and therefore is within the realm of reality.
     
  7. M_Ranko

    M_Ranko Straight edge xXx

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    So I'm going to try and offer you an alternative perspective to some of the things on this list that I've found problematic:

    "Ban government enforced schooling"
    This ignores the fact that 6th graders (around 11-13 years old, depending on territory) are not yet mentally mature enough to make decisions about the rest of their lives. You'll risk creating a group of uneducated buffoons, feral children who lack even the most basic skills to survive in a 21st century world with its high demands. A teenaged child is a very impulsive creature, who doesn't wanna go to school if given the opportunity. It wants to stay home, play vidya and smoke pot. You'd just create another group of poorly educated dimwits, who hate the trans and are willing to vote for the next Trump, when they encounter something their uneducated minds cannot comprehend and the desire for easy solutions arises.

    "Corporations pay for college or trade schools."
    They won't, because they don't wanna burden themselves with the costs, and I doubt you can make them.

    "Lowering aoc to 15."
    A 15 year old is still a child, so this would be pedophilia. It's emotionally damaging to many children, who are not yet mature and ready enough for sexual encounters, and has been outlawed for this exact reason. Also, schools should be schools, not brothels. By-the-by, how would you handle all the teen pregnancies?

    "Illegal to show nudity or violence to kids under 13."
    In today's world of smart phones and internet porn, this would be 100% impossible to enforce.

    "Reintroduction of some humans to servant status"
    Judicial community service is already a thing, and exists in current legislations in many territories. This is nothing new.

    "Criminal reform. Rapists or violent offenders are force feminized on HRT"
    Chemical castration is already a thing. As for actually feminizing people as punishment, I doubt this could be made legal. At the very least, there are some serious ethical concerns regarding this.

    "Federal aesthetics police, the FBI (Federal Beauty Inspectors.)"
    Many cities and municipalities don't have the budget, nor the time for this sort of busywork. They often struggle with financing the actually essential services. You're proposing 4 layers of governance just for this?

    "Radio regulated. Unwholesome songs not permitted on the radio."
    What is bad music? Should we ban gangsta rap? Or heavy metal as devil's music? Or maybe perhaps Britney Spears and Lady Gaga? "Unwholesome" is very subjective there, buddy. Who'd be the authority to make this call? And what do we do with all the artists and radio stations who would go out of business? What about freedom of speech concerns? And what makes you think media companies will agree to this?

    "Unsavory media labelled."
    Already exists via each country's national rating systems. I'm sure you've heard of the PG-13, R- and X-ratings?

    The drugs issue I'm not touching, because I'm a straight edge and therefore oppose the use of all forms of intoxicating substances. How's that for wholesome? But your suggestion on how to reduce drink driving issues is impractical as all hell. You give away your car keys to unlock your real car keys, and... ??? How do you drive home from the liquor store?

    "All cars will have an auto-pilot function..."
    This doesn't remove the millions of old cars that lack this feature from circulation. And today's self-driving cars are not yet quite up there with Knight Rider's K.I.T.T in how advanced they are. It wasn't too long ago, when a robot car ran somebody over, causing a fatality. Today's robot cars still need some level of attention and interaction from the human driver.

    "Citizen class and rank system"
    You mean like the Social Credit System in China? Where people with too low Credit score can't even travel freely? And are publicly shamed and humiliated at state level, by actual government workers, if you are a bad boy by doxxing you to the general public? Where their children can't even enter certain schools, if daddy's "untrustworthy"? As for human rights, that doesn't need a ranking system. Human rights belong to all without any separate processes.

    "Penalties for bad parenting. Toxic households are regulated by gov."
    Already happens trough Social services. Children can be taken to custody and away from their toxic parents within the current system.

    "gays and lesbians must share a house"
    It's not the government's job to regulate, where people live. Unless you've been given a prison sentence for a crime, the sole exception here.

    "Make racism illegal."
    It already is.

    "if someone is ugly and wants beautiful genes, they are given crispr"
    Are you sure CRISPR works that way? It's not magic, you know. Once people's bone and muscle structures settle, you need surgery to alter appearances. No way around that.

    "The plot of Ocarina of Time will be altered so that Link is not an incel at the end of the game."
    How will you make Nintendo agree to this?

    "Women will like 2 kinds of men, femboys and chads."
    How exactly will you decide people's likes and dislikes for them?

    "Domination by trans."
    You do realize that the average person will never agree to be submissive to a specific sexual minority in their everyday life? The average Joe/Jane wants to live their life their way, not the trans way. Trying to force this could actually lead to violence.

    "Cis that live in rural areas can retain their masculinity and are not forced to become futas"
    How exactly would you force someone to become a futa in the first place? Protip: You can't. You don't have the army of soldiers and medical scientists to back you up.

    "Other countries, seeing how great our nation is, will be offered a chance to become annexed by us and one of our states."
    Trust me when I tell you that Europeans would never trade places with you, nor surrender their sovereignty to US rule. Not in this currently existing system, and not in yours. I'm sure the rest of the world agrees. Most of the world's countries actually like being independent, and having their own rules, rather than somebody else's.

    "Banning 90% of television"
    Sure, same as radio, how would you accomplish this, and what then, exactly would be placed on the ban list of offensive programs? Actually, I would fully support the banning of all reality TV. But beyond that, do you censor the news, and only show trans friendly stuff? Conan O'Brien? South Park? MTV? And what about all the people who, same as radio, would go out of business?

    "Regulation of gaming."
    I think the companies are going to prefer making these decision in-house.

    "Once the elixir of immortality is made"
    Won't happen. Human cells can only regenerate themselves a finite number of times, before they break down and decay for good. Once this process begins, it's over for you, and you can't just drink something to cancel it. Even then, if you somehow manage to reverse this process, your life might still end trough catastrophic physical trauma.

    As for your gun arguments, dehumanizing or not, it is not a human right to own a gun. A gun is not a toy, nor a status symbol to brag with, but a weapon, designed exclusively to maim and kill living things. This level of destructive power must be handled responsibly, and any sane system will force you to prove that you are responsible enough to be trusted with this power, to prevent unnecessary deaths, which cannot be reversed nor taken back, no matter how accidental they were. It is a matter of public safety. I've been observing the ludicrous levels of gun violence happening in the United States, and I certainly don't want any of that here. Euro countries restrict gun ownership heavily, and we have much less gun violence and accompanying deaths as a result. And this is a good thing and should stay that way.
     
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  8. DarthDva

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    Complete hyperbole. Nothing but paranoia.

    Innocent teenagers being forced to work 9 hours a day unpaid labor is slavery and a violation of human rights.

    Fine make the bullies and the criminal teens go to school and maybe even military school. But why make good honest innocent teens have to live the life of slaves.
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    The american school system does not teach kids anything useful or how to survive in the 21st century in the first place. Schools teach students useless information and the only job they will get from it is fast food. So if their job is just gonna be blue collar tedium working at fast food or a factory, they might as well not go to school in the first place.

    Legally forcing people to go to school is a modern phenomenon. In the past going to school was a privilege, students who want to learn will go to school on their own, they do not need to be forced. Abe Lincoln walked 18 miles in the snow to go to school.

    The problem of bigotry is of education. Parents and mainstream media teach their kids transphobia. You fix transphobia by changing mainstream media.
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    If you want to learn skills useful for 21st century living, those tutorials can be found on youtube and udemy.

    Secondly, my advanced civilization will have robot workers providing UBI to its citizens. It will not be some capitalist neoliberal Silicon Valley fest of 190 iq people scrambling to compete and learning and updating code 24/7. There will be no more rat race of being stuck in hours of traffic jams or going to college for 4-8 years like the current civilization. If you want to live a natural lifestyle, and not having to live life scrambling to eat ramen everyday while learning the latest coding techniques, there will be UBI provided.




    One corporation wont have to pay for the whole college. There will be a pooled fund of whatever corporations benefit from the training at that college or tradeschool.

    That's a rather backwards way of looking at the world. The result of puritan/catholic invasion and infiltration of western societies. Spain aoc used to be 13, Japan's is still 13, some SE Asian nations have aoc 15 iirc. Its generally catholic/puritan missionaries that invade nations and enforce their dogmatic views about sexuality, and for some reason even agnostics and secular types get brainwashed by it too. Science does not consider 15 to be a form of pedo, rather this is classified as hebephillia. The word phillia doesn't really even make sense given the context though, since phillia refers to a non-sexual friendship type of love.
    Its been outlawed because of puritan or western cultural dogmas, not because of biology or scientific reasons. It is normal and natural for teen males to lust and want to impregnate adult female porn stars, outlawing this is catering to religious superstition instead of biology.
    As for teenage pregnancies, I don't know why that would be an issue, since I said this is 15 y.o. males having sex with female teachers. If anything that would be adult pregnancies. Maybe the sex would have to be regulated to blowjobs in order to reduce adult pregnancies. As for teenage pregnancies, that is a good thing, ideally you want 14 y.o males to have sex with 14 y.o females, this will create the best quality of DNA and fertility. The older people get the more their DNA and fertility declines and the greater likelihood of genetic defects like down syndrome in babies. Thus it becomes mainly a question of economics...how can high school students afford to raise a family? The answer is they cant... not with the current system at least. In my system, going to highschool is not legally mandatory so they have time to work instead, or they could lay around playing vidya and getting UBI, their choice. I offer freedom to teens to live life the way they choose.


    No, kids could report it to the government. This is kinda a system where if something doesn't really harm them then they probably won't report it, so it really punishes media that could be harmful to kids.

    This is going to be more hardcore than that. Community service only for mild crimes, for other crimes they become full blown maids, or working at a quarry or mines. There is no economic benefit to the prison planet besides corrupt private prisons profiting from other people's suffering. This way, with felons being put to good use, felons can actually benefit the economy and greatly contribute to society. Its energy inefficient and mechanically wasteful to have felons rotting all day instead of being put to good use.

    Its no more or no less ethical than castration.

    Its the federal budget. They periodically go to cities and analyze cities.

    In my experience cities can be wasteful and just charge unfair taxes that go nowhere useful. For instance spending a ton of money on statues nobody wants. Or politicians pocketing the money themselves. This way the higher government can decide if a city is wasting its money on a bad art direction. Of course cities will get some say on the art direction their city has.

    Absolutely ban much of rap music, it leads to the decline of the black community. If you want to help blacks then remove the brainwashing that keeps them down. Rap music promotes crime and bad behavior. Certain rap should be allowed like Will Smith rap that teaches positive social values.

    There is a certain good essence of rock. If rock lyrics are not too bad then allow the rock. And allow rock bands such as SOAD that teach society helpful messages.

    Some pop tunes will probably be allowed, of course there will be a Committee that decides this and there are appeals incase the song first fails the panel of approval.

    Dissidents who complain about freedom of speech will be allowed to do so, as long as their speech is not a danger to the State. The media companies will have to answer to the boot of the State. They will not financially suffer that much as it will be legal for people to buy any albums at stores. Therefore it is not really true censorship. However, albums will be labelled as wholesome or unwholesome, in order to give fair warning to citizens.

    There is already a system similar to this already in place in our current society. For instance, in Family Video pornography is put in a separate room in order to give fair warning to citizens. Similarly, albums sold in stores will be put into a separate room if the albums are unwholesome. There will not actually be any censorship taking place. All that will take place is reducing assault and earrape, radio stations should not have the right to assault and rape people's ears. While it is possible to turn off the radio in the car, it is inconvenient to not have many wholesome options. And in other cases, radio is forced on people (which is a human rights violation.) If someone needs to eat then they have to go to a store, and the grocery store plays the radio, and then it becomes a violation of human rights. If someone just wants an honest job at Walmart, then its a human rights violation to make them listen to radio music. Therefore radio is subject to government regulation since it is not a private entity. And we should not cater our society just so Capitalists can maximize their profits, at the expense of our quality of life. The capitalists will still make profits since the albums will still be sold.


    In my system it will be illegal for parents to show unsavory movies to their kids. In the current system parents suffer no legal penalties for exposing their children to R movies. Furthermore, it will be illegal to discuss the content of unsavory movies to anyone besides the people in the theatre of the movie. This will reduce the need of brain bleach and result in less people having ptsd in society.


    No you do not give away car keys to unlock real car keys. All car keys will now be equipped with secondary keys. In order to activate the car you need both primary and secondary keys. In this way you can give the secondary keys to a shop owner without needing to trust them (trustless transaction.) The shop owner will not be able to activate your car with just the secondary keys. You of course can no longer drive without your secondary keys, that is the general idea. You will have to either walk to wherever it is you are going, take a bus, or get a designated driver. That is the point, this will reduce the likelyhood of drinking and driving, although not stop it completely. There are exploits such as getting the designated driver drunk with the booze. However, the cars are then equipped with a breathalyzer as an additional security feature. Of course there are exploits and ways of getting around that as well. In case of a breathalyzer malfunction, the user is allowed to emergency deactivate breathalyzer authorization. However, this is viewed as suspicious activity the more cumulative times someone does this. For instance, a legitimate use case is someone is running late for work, and the breathalyzer doesn't seem to be working, so its emergency deactivated in order to gain authorization to drive the car. You cannot stop crime completely only reduce the chances of it happening. This will reduce the amount of drunk driving incidents by an estimated 90%.

    Auto-pilot cars are not legally required, only human drivable cars are legally required. It will be illegal for a car to be auto pilot only with no steering wheel. Auto pilot is legally required for drunks to use auto pilot instead of driving. If they don't own an auto pilot enabled car then they must find a driver to drive them or take a bus.

    No. Humans will be able to travel freely. In fact we want terfs to leave the country.

    The citizen rank will influence political power, taxation rate, ubi amount given, and other special privileges. For example a high rank citizen will be allowed tanks, medium rank maybe fully automatics, low rank semiburst assault rifles and lower rank maybe a bolt action hunting rifle. But if a high rank blows up a low rank citizen's shop for no good reason then the high rank is treated as a criminal, high ranks do not get to automatically violate human rights.

    A lot of children are abused by foster parents. And sometimes it can be hard if the abuse is emotional abuse, and if the system does not view it as physical abuse then the current system does not view it as a priority. I have a better idea of sending the parents to reeducation centers to brainwash them to not be toxic.

    Kids should have the right to have a masculine and feminine parental influence. Not an echo chamber where they are raised in an environment where there is a lack of one of the energy types. For instance, kids deserve 2 parents instead of being raised by single moms. If one of the transwomen or lesbians is a 2 spirit then we can be lenient and say a 75% 25% energy distribution is enough that they don't require coed housing.


    It will be illegal in the way bullying is illegal. For instance if a black guy is walking around town and minding his own business, it will be illegal to harass him for being black. It will also be illegal to keep whites down with Affirmative Action, which is anti-white discrimination. On the other hand, if racists want to form their own gated community, that is fine. If they own private property and a bunch of land, they can arbitrarily decide who is allowed on their land. They will not be allowed to go out of their way to harass blacks, and it will also be illegal for blacks to harass them as well. Racist books will not be censored, if the books are written in an objective and scientific manner and not trying to be insulting then no warning will be given, however if the books are written in an insulting manner the books may have a warning given to citizens and listed as unwholesome. No books will be banned but instead different warning tiers put on the book covers.


    There are ways to modify bones and bones do change even after puberty.

    My country is a sovereign nation, they have no legal say on what my nation chooses to do. We will change the .rom file and change the story of the game, this is perfectly legal since we purchased the game. At most they can embargo trades against us, but I doubt they would do that since we would no longer be able to give them money for their games.

    The media will influence their opinions, this is no different than the current media of America, the difference is that we will influence it for the greater good of all beings instead of greedy capatalists.

    This is no different than first wave feminism, when feminists were told they had to stay in the kitchen and wear dresses. Well the time is now for our society to change, it is the same for males who are shamed for feminine attributes and told they must wear manly clothes at all times, it is time to rise against that.

    There will be trans politicians deciding laws, the average Joe/Jane will not be forced to live a trans lifestyle. Forced HRT will only be given to criminals.
    I also noticed a flaw in this, rule by trans is not ideal since many trans identify as 100% of a gender, you do not want gender binaries controlling your society. So until the development of futa technology, cis might as well have equal likelihood of power as trans.

    The futa ruling class are not forced, it is optional. If someone does not want to be futa then they really should not be ruling class. Cis citizens can remain cis if they want to just be ordinary citizens.

    In time they will see that my way is greater. Some are already realizing this fact.


    The news is corrupt so that has to go. Ideally there would be no news at all, but in the event of some major event there should at least be important updates. The rest of the stuff would have to be decided by the Commitee, maybe there is still some way to watch those shows with computerized tv or something like that.

    Once again my policies are for the public good, not the catering of capitalists. Capitalists will still make profit either way. Our current establishment has corrupt journalists, AAA companies that usually spend 75% of funds on marketing, and the E-shops all polluted with indie trash. It will only get exponentially worse as time goes on, eventually it will be impossible for humans to sort through all this trash. Concessions have to be made.

    All that is really needed is a DNA blueprint, and you can achieve immortality if you just reset DNA to either factory condition, or any number of acceptable non-factory conditions.
    At the very least a lifespan of 30,000 is probably achievable even without resetting DNA to factory condition.
    The idea of death match tournaments is so that life can end, if everyone lives to 30,000 and reproduces then the planet will very quickly become too overpopulated.

    Self-defense is a human right, is it not a right to protect your house and life from attack from criminals? If there was some kind of magic button that would magically get rid of all guns from criminals then maybe we could push that button. But in reality, if guns are illegal then criminals will have guns and citizens will have no guns. It's already been attempted in some places, such as chicago, the criminals just roam rampant there and its no longer safe.
    I already stated what my gun conditions would be. "high rank citizen will be allowed tanks, medium rank maybe fully automatics, low rank semiburst assault rifles and lower rank maybe a bolt action hunting rifle." This would prevent any kind of terf uprising as they wouldn't even have low citizen rank but 0 citizen rank at all.
     
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    Do you understand that it's only leftism that tolerates trans people like yourself? Centrists and right wingers wouldn't put up with you.
     
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    Why on earth are you attacking Centrists now? Because your pro-circumcision argument failed so you needed something else to argue about?
     
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    I'm not attacking Centrists. Just pointing out that they wouldn't put up with you.
     
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    You must be talking about fake conservatives and fake centrists. Because in real ancient history there were trans imperial rulers. If they were real conservatives they would know that it is my destiny to rule, and for them to obey.
     
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    If you think you're a centrist, you're delusional. Your views are so extreme they're off the charts.
     
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    Try coming over here and telling me that, I assure you, you'll be walking away with a severe limp and my walking stick poked up your arse as far as it will go !!!
     
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    Tikoo

    They have not been censored but I would like to ask why you wish to defend them and can you?
     
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    RE: Darth

    Once again we see that Darth is not really explaining or defending their ideas from criticisms rather than just restating them and attacking those for seeming to have the audacity of asking Darth to defend them.

    I mean what we get is the hypocritical, the contradictory and the absurd often with little or no actual contact with the rational

    Darth wants peace and quiet and seeks this out by ranting out controversial ideas on a public forum

    Darth asks for personal space while posting on a public forum

    Basically Darth wants to criticise others while not replying to criticism.

    Let us look at one statement among many

    Darth calls all lefties shills people ask Darth to back up that statement Darth says this is somehow a personal or ad hominem attack and the statement does not need backing up anyway because all lefties are shills

    It’s the classic trick of the aggressor trying to play the victim.
     
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    Centrist

    Again can anyone actually explain what a centrist is?

    As I’ve already stated that this seems to me to be just another variation on right wingers claiming they are not right wingers, like those that claimed that they were ‘left on social issues and right on economic ones’ or loudly proclaimed they were ‘not of the right of left’ but spent virtually all there time attacking left wing ideas (with the occasional aside that capitalism could be bad).

    In my experience most of these people pushing the ‘third way’ actually knew they were right wingers and were just wishing hide their true selves to muddy the waters and bamboozle the unwary or uninformed into supporting things that were against their own interests something right wing and wealth sponsored media and think tanks have been doing for years also.

    In any conversation such ‘centrist’ charlatans soon reveal their true colours and that is why they can often be spotted as they hate to actually debate or discuss their ideas because whenever they do it became very obvious very quickly that they are clearly of the right.

    I’m a leftie – I’m proud to be a leftie – I wouldn’t dream of trying to pretend I wasn’t – and I don’t want to shy away from debate or discussion, to me that is the best way of teaching and learning, ask me a political question I’ll try and give you an answer, it you criticise my political viewpoint I will not claim it as a personal or ad hominem attack but try and defend it as best I can and if I can’t then I know it needs to be adapted so I can or dropped.

    It’s a matter of honesty many right wingers know their ideas can’t stand up to criticism but they don’t want to adapted or drop them so their only recourse is to dishonesty.
     
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    The decision to make an investment should be driven by long term structural conditions in the economy. Conditions that will enable growth.
    Not some sugar rush of a check that is spent in a month.
     
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    I can attack you for your politics yet do not wish to . Peace and love .
     
  20. M_Ranko

    M_Ranko Straight edge xXx

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    Oh, is it now? Why don't you prove me wrong.

    Fact is that kids make poor choices all the time, 'cause they don't know any better. When left to their own devices, like you're suggesting, the chances for making more of these bad choices increase exponentially. Or else we wouldn't have 13-year old habitual alcoholics and drug addicts. It's the adults job to guide the kids. Now, I'm sorry if the system over at your end has failed to the point where substantial reforms might be in order, but this is certainly not the situation everywhere in the world. And it will not get better, if you let things devolve to the level of Lord of the flies.

    Means jack squat, if you can't produce any officially recognized degrees from your Youtube studies to show that you've actually mastered a skill to a point where it's safe to hire you to work in a critical position. Medicine, for example. I've already explained to you that you can't become a doctor, for example, trough Youtube studies. And I also wouldn't hire an electrician , whose only qualification for the job is watching 200 hours of Youtube videos, where they teach you how to peel off the insulation from electrical cord. Because, you know, I love it when my house doesn't burn down from incompetently done, faulty wiring.

    So where do these robots come from? Where's the tech? Who owns and operates them, and is this party willing to pay taxes from their profits that the machines generate to help fund the UBI?

    Have you actually approached companies like Google, Microsoft and Apple (to mention but few) about this? How do they feel about your proposal?

    No, there's a proven psychology behind this. Many kids, and girls in particular, have felt that the experience has been stressful, disturbing and anxiety provoking, if they've been forced into sexual acts while too young. And adults in particular have no business getting funky with any minors. The age of consent is what it is, because the whole purpose is to protect the child's emotional development. Legislative changes like this should not be made based on one person's sexual fetishes. Spain raised their age of consent from 13 to 16 in 2013, precisely because the old limit of 13 years was fucking stupid. It might've made sense somewhere in the dark ages of 14th century, when people generally had lower life expectancies. But a limit that low is nonsensical today.

    Also, following up from this, it is NOT a teachers job to fuck their students, or ask them for gobbies. Where do you get this stuff? A teacher teaches the student, and that's all. At no point should there be sex of any kind, because that is not what teachers are supposed to do. What you're advocating is sexual abuse of a minor (because let's face it, in your proposed scenario, all kids over 13 wouldn't even be in school anymore, therefore teachers would only have access to minors to have sex with).

    Except for the part where they replace a paid civilian worker.

    It is in the sense that a HRT cocktail would alter a person's appearance in unpredictable ways. Chemical castration doesn't do this.

    Rap is popular. You're not gonna make many friends with this, therefore the support for this proposal would be nil. Who would be the authority that decides what is banned?

    Like they do in Russia today?

    Like in Russia, China, N-Korea and Myanmar? And your suggestion to control the distribution of physical media doesn't matter much today anyway. The Internet will always deliver. Should we block the Internet? Like in China, N-Korea and Myanmar?

    And how is this controlled? Will spy cameras be placed into people's private homes and to all street corners, so that Big Brother could interfere if a thought crime happens? Come on, now...

    Ooh, so you're talking about fitting all cars with dual ignitions. At least two issues with this: 1. The electric cars of the future are already often push-button activated. How do you get around this. 2. Who's going to retrofit all those millions of old cars with this dual-ignition system, and who pays for this? The breathalyzer-system I can dig, because unlike many of your other ideas, this is actually not fantasy anymore.

    Or how about no? There's a reason, why only the military is given this sort of hardware. Imagine the level of carnage, if people could show up to demonstrations with this shit. Imagine, if some beer-swilling yahoo decides to blow up the football stadium, if he decides that it was unfair when his team lost. Another case of no guns for the crazies.

    These disputes can already be settled in civilian court. Nothing new here. And racist groups already own private ranches. It's not like they're gonna wait for your approval for it.

    Yeah, it's called surgery. Bones grow or shrink, depending on your age. That's it.

    Oh, but they have. There's this little thing called copyright law, and Nintendo is the recognized, legal owner of the Zelda-brand and intellectual property. No self-respecting country, including hopefully yours, is gonna engage into this sort of pointless and non-productive legal exercise, just to fix a private citizen's pet peeve about a video game. You'd look stupid trying this.

    There's also the fact that since you're not part of Nintendo's officially approved writing team for the game, your fan fiction scribbles wouldn't be accepted into the series canon anyway. Only original authors decide what is official. You're not an original author for the series.

    Also, when you buy a game, from a legal perspective you only buy a license to use the content. Doing anything else is breaking the law. You can spread ROM-hacks all you want, but doing that is not gonna make your wishes and wants canon, and don't be surprised, if Nintendo's lawyers come knocking on your door some day. With the cops. Who don't care that you're trans.

    Fashion comes and goes. Even IF you pull this off, another counter culture would eventually simply displace yours.

    Only if enough of 'em are voted in, which I'll say is unlikely to say the least. Or were you perhaps planning on a violent trans rebellion and a coup?

    Trust me, many people don't want to be futa, and many will still want to be in power. You'd have to make this happen by force, because that's what it'll take, and your odds are not looking good.

    Doubtful. I don't think anyone is gonna see the greatness of your ways.

    Your "corrupt news" would simply move to the Internet (or "computerized tv" like you so eloquently put it), away from your control, and in fact it already has. All major fake news outlets have their own Internet portals as well. Controlling TV today means nothing, 'cause there are alternatives. Besides, news blackouts don't exactly serve to make people smarter. I doubt you'd wanna miss out on news about the latest breakthroughs in trans HRT treatments for example.

    DNA is not computer binary code. On a molecular level there's still physical matter behind it, that will wear out over time and needs to be replaced. Until eventually you just can't, because the damage is too extensive. It's not the same as simply feeding electricity trough a silicone chip that's been crafted to pulsate in a particular way.

    Also, I doubt that your idea of organizing your vision of the Hunger games is gonna be very popular. Just one more thing about your system that people would protest and overthrow.

    Sure, but why don't you maybe try fixing the socioeconomic problems in your country first, that have created your urban violence in the first place. That way you could create a situation, where armed self-defense becomes unneeded, because the level of violence in society drops. It works here.

    Also, my dear child, I hope that you're not having fantasies about becoming invincible, if you could just get a gun? Have no such illusions. In a gunfight numbers still decide. If, say... 10 gang bangers, all of them carrying a strap, suddenly decide to start shit with you, and you're alone against them with your paltry 9-millimeter (or let's be generous, maybe even a long gun), do you honestly think that you'd walk away as the victor? I think not. More likely would be, that your bullet riddled corpse would be found on the next day, after the gang bangers would overwhelm you with their superior numbers and use you for target practice. Let that sink in. A gunfight always ends with somebody dying. Can you accept that it could be you, instead of the other guy? Can you live with another person's death on your conscience?


    Anyway, great bait. 10/10 for making me respond.
     
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