New new deal

Discussion in 'Democracy' started by DarthDva, Feb 15, 2021.

  1. DarthDva

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    They are fake conservatives not real ones. They are fake corporatist ben shapiro type trads. They want to erase the true and ancient trans traditions of anciet society. Trans have been around since 4000 years ago, and were worshipped as gods by Greeks. Ben shapiro types want to erase that and instill modern corporate type right wing values instead.

    This is similar to how our Founding Fathers, George Washington and others did pot, but modern corporate right wings want to ban drugs. They do not truly want to conserve american values but instead instill a corporate takeover of american values.
     
  2. scratcho

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    Corporate takeover happened a long time ago. It's how laws are made for the few by buying the legislators.
     
  3. DarthDva

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    And it started with taxes and leftist policies.

    Its all an international banking cabal, taxation started in 1913. They claimed only the rich would be taxed. They said they'd also have to only pay 1% of their income. Now, in 2020, even poor have to pay huge taxes. Everything is taxed, income, profit, sales tax you name it. It all goes to Uncle Sam and his international banking cabal. So he can fund his wars and bomb the middle east in order to profit from oil, which in turn causes less green energy. Green energy? The poor are going to be taxed for that too.

    The Democrats started out as the KKK, they supposedly reformed and want equality, despite putting people like Harris in charge (Harris is oppressive to blacks.) Despite this the black community gave them their vote, an overwhelming amount of votes.

    Hypothetically, if you want to say in some future utopia leftists like Yang and Bernie are in charge, then maybe I will be less critical of the left, until that day I judge leftists as they are. Communism killed more than any other political movement in history.
     
  4. Vladimir Illich

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    I think you'll find that taxation started a lot earlier than that !!! - in the uk, taxation of income commenced in the 18th Century !!!
     
  5. soulcompromise

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    It's like @Balbus says. You're making statements and not providing explanations. What I mean by this is that it's commonly accepted that libertarians are aligned in several ways with republicans. One example of this is their opposition to any kind of increase in taxation. A more specific example is libertarian opposition to a gas tax in California.

    LP San Francisco activists invite petitioners to stop Top Two, slash gas taxes - Libertarian Party of California
    Anarchists, last I checked, are fringe-y and activist-oriented; not a political designation. If anything they are anti-political; they don't have political opinions and reject basically every form of organization in society. They're deviant.


    Centrist: (from Wikipedia)

    Sounds pretty vague, and doesn't hold with an established party. I find that to be counter-productive. How would one vote with this political position? I suppose it could mean moderate of either party. In the United States, we have two major political parties who the majority align with though.
     
  6. soulcompromise

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    Can you explain what you mean when you refer to a "corporate takeover"?

    Speaking of corporate interests, should corporations be required to pay more or less taxes?

    What about when they outsource to other countries? Should there be an "exit tax"?
     
  7. soulcompromise

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    @DarthDva, I'm flattered, but I'm in a very serious relationship. I'm male, 41, from California, and cisgender. My foothold in the trans community is through dance-music and it's relationship with LGBTQ+. I'm sorry if I misled you or if you misunderstood something. My avatar, if you google search the image (right click, search for image) comes up as... US $7.13 40% OFF|Clout Goggles Oval Sunglasses Women Luxury Brand Designer Unisex Black White Sun Glasses For Woman Kurt Cobain Glasses Eyewear|Women's Sunglasses| - AliExpress, but I found it by searching for psychedelic sunglasses or something, and it's very old.
     
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    Darth

    LOL just more excuses - I think you know you can’t defended any of the things you say your just a troll plain and simple.

    What are you going on about? I don’t know where this comes from or its relevance
     
  9. Balbus

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    Darth

    This statements just highlights how politically uninformed you are - to move forward you need to have a direction you don’t seem to have any direction and no policies beyond some pet hates that are mostly directed against the left wing of which you clearly have very little knowledge or understanding

    If you did you’d realise that most of the left want balance that’s why they have social policies based around increasing equality and favour Keynesian economic policies.

    The right want imbalance they favour the few that is the whole point of the social Darwinist social policies they favour and neoliberal economic thinking

    From you post your so called ‘centrism’ seems to consist of mumbling grievances while shuffling around in a circle
     
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    I agree - this seems to me to be just another variation on an already well trod path of some right wingers claiming they are not.

    The ones that claim once claimed that they were left on social issues and right on economic ones or loudly proclaimed they were ‘not of the right of left’ but spent virtually all there time attacking left wing ideas (with the occasional aside that capitalism could be bad)

    They too hated to actually debate or discuss their ideas because whenever they did so it became very obvious very quickly that they were clearly of the right.
     
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    That's a logical fallacy.

    The truth of the matter is I have a low tolerance for drama, dissidence and toxicity and there are only so much arguments I can take. I was born in a toxic household and don't have much patience for naysaying and dissidence.

    Thats another fallacy. Do you really think right-wingers would go along with all of my ideas? They'd do what leftists did to Yang if I tried to run for their platforms.
     
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    Which is why my country rebelled against the UK in 1776. I use the term "my country" loosely since America is not America anymore, it has been taken over by the deep state since 1913.

    Deep state takeover in 1913. All politicians are crooked and corrupt, they are part of a banking scheme. The international banking cabal pays politicians to do their bidding. The laws the politicians make helps makes banks make more money, with that money banks can pay more politicians to do their bidding. America is not a democracy, only the banks have a say in anything.
     
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    Some Anarchists have become leftists nowadays. There are probably some still real anarchists here and there. Real anarchists and real libertarians are close in similarity, republicans are in some ways the opposite of anarchists.

    I am a centrist, I think anarchism/libertarianism is primitive, there needs to be some leftist policies and some rightwing policies and some gov regulation. I am a centrist because i take all the good of the left and right and do not do any left or right policies i don't agree with.



    the majority are keeping americans down by voting for crooked politicians all the time.


    vid of centrism.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRzgK52MmetD9aG8pDOID3g
     
  14. DarthDva

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    Idk that kind of seems like a 2d perspective, only in a 2d space are there right or left as movement forward. In 3d space there is moving forward, or moving right or left. While 2d mario is entertaining its not a real depiction of reality or all the nuances of real life, it is only a stage a play a facsimile of reality, a stage act. Which is what the current political system is, a rigged farce between 2 candidates in a popularity contest, a spectacle.
     
  15. M_Ranko

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    Oohohohohohoho, no way, buddy. Far from painless. It's only painless if you absolutely nail it on your first try. But I happen to know somebody, who actually failed a shotgun suicide and merely ended up blasting away his left cheek, because he was drunk and not in full control of his faculties. It was a fucking mess trying to stitch that shit back together via reconstructive surgery. He lived a very miserable rest of his life after that. A gunshot may not kill you straight away. Suicide by gun is always a risk.

    If you want legally assisted suicide, you should instead read about the suicide clinics in Belgium, where they actually legalized assisted suicide. Surprise, surprise, no firing squads, or guns of any kind involved. It's all done neat and clean with drugs. Sorry, but this suicide angle is not a just reason to let crazies have guns. See, what you're ignoring here is that a lot of depressed people could be harboring revenge fantasies against people, who might've wronged them, and where they'd wish to kill these people in retaliation. This is always kinda personal, and could even be justified depending on the circumstances of the individual case, but don't ask for the government and legislators to sanction these acts. This would lead to full-blown chaos, where people would start killing each other nilly willy over the pettiest of shit. The United States is already pretty far down this road, let's not make it worse. You wanna kill somebody, be ready to face the music too.

    Well, I give you this one. I'll even laud you for supporting this idea, as I'm a fan of it myself. Fact of the matter is that those menial factory jobs that we lost to the Chinese will not come back here anytime soon. The work culture of the 1950's simply isn't coming back, and it's childish and petty to punish anyone who simply doesn't have the opportunity to live up to this ideal. Our biological needs for food and shelter and medicine won't shut themselves down while we're waiting for things to get better. We all need to eat EVERY DAY, one way or the other. If not legally, then ILlegally, consequences be damned, and many nations have fallen, when their leaders thought that they could just starve their people forever trough austerity.

    But now we have another problem, @DarthDva. You seem to be anti-taxes. So, pray tell me where the funding for this basic income would come from then? Do we just have the central banks print money forever? Hell, I'd actually like that myself, but right now the political resistance against this is much too great. So, how would YOU solve this conundrum of actually financing UBI, if not trough taxes? You know the money has to come from somewhere, and the magic wall to make it hasn't been found yet.

    "Centrism", yeah. You know, I actually live in a North-European country, where we actually have an honest to god centrist political party. Wanna hear the kicker? They are just as corrupt and self-serving as the right and left that you hate. And even better, when a centrist party begins to corrupt, they actually begin to lean and side with the right, which then creates a situation where right-wing politics become too disproportionately powerful, and over-represented. This happens every time there's money and power in play. Fancy ideals get thrown out the window, when somebody gets greedy and decides that he/she/xe deserves more than the other guy. This will happen to the political center too, and in many cases here in Europe has happened. It's political corruption, it will take over everything. Even the centrist parties are still, after all, run by humans. The same humans who corrupt every time there's a promise of more money and power for themselves.

    “Everyone has a price, the important thing is to find out what it is.”

    ― Pablo Escobar

    I can see that you're upset about the US left, and indeed, compared to the European left they still have a few lessons to learn. Lessons that they haven't had a chance to learn yet, because the US society has fought them tooth and nail so far as "godless, red pinko communism that wants to take durr gunss and freedumz!". I live in a Nordic welfare state, a product of leftist policies that, by and far, is the most safest and prosperous place for straight, gay AND trans people to live in. Even with warts and everything, because they do can be found.
     
  16. DarthDva

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    Alright u want my policies? Here are my polices.

    Where to start.

    • Ban government enforced schooling (6th grade or higher.) Kids are forced into 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th grade. 6th grade is optional. The nerds and geeks will voluntarily go to school. This is a pro-human rights future where kids have rights and are not just herded like cattle.
    • Corporations pay for college or trade schools. This will help train cream of the crop specialist workers to help corporations. Common citizens will then have to pay less taxes, and students will no longer have student debt or dread and anxiety about finding a job.
    • Legalization and regulation of prostitution. Prostitutes are legalized but heavily regulated to prevent disease transmission.
    • Lowering aoc to 15. Teenage males with high sex drive cannot focus in class. Males that have good grades should be rewarded by consensual sex with female teachers. I haven't thought of a solution for females yet since females only want chad teachers so it will be more difficult.
    • Illegal to show nudity or violence to kids under 13. Kids under 13 should have wholesome childhoods with no sex or violence. The most they should see is mario kissing peach or mario fighting bowser.
    • Harsh punishment for bullies at school. School environment should be conductive to learning, bullies should be punished harshly. A Committee can decide what the punishment should be, perhaps flogging or having to fight the alpha male of the school.
    • Reintroduction of some humans to servant status, such as terfs or bullies who are repeat offenders. They get a sentence duration based on the severity of their offense. So if its a mild offense they only have to be a servant who cleans the city or is a janitor or works at soup kitchen or something like that. If its a medium offense they have to be a maid, if is a severe offense they have to be a miner or hard labor. This will greatly boost the economy as well as reducing bullying.
    • Criminal reform. Rapists or violent offenders are force feminized on HRT (unless the victim was a terf or bully.) Abolishment of private prisons, increase also the quality of jails, inmates get xbox, inmates also get to have heterosexual sex with government approved prostitutes.
    • Federal food quality laws. Schools and jails must only serve organic foods to the prisoners. Unhealthy foods leads to increased aggressive behavoir and deterioration of scholarly performance.
    • Federal aesthetics police, the FBI (Federal Beauty Inspectors.) There is also a Board of Artists, the Artists vote on what is good or bad art. If a town looks like a slums the mayor must improve the town somehow. Living in litter is a human rights violation. Towns should look beautiful.
    • Further expanded on this, local businesses do not get any freedom to make their businesses look however they like. Instead they must conform to an artistic harmony which the city decides.
    • Failsafes in case the city chooses unwholesome art. The Feds can override the city decision of art direction if enough citizens complain about it. There will be a formal hearing of whether or not the city archetecture is wholesome or unwholesome.
    • Failsafes for the Board of Artists themselves. It is unacceptable for the Board of Artists to be filled with pretentious critics who do not have true taste in architecture. Only true and higher critics will be accepted into the Board of Artists. It will not have a bunch of pretentious art pieces like some of the modern art that has high price but little value.
    • Wholesome art examples: Mario, splatoon, nintendo, sega, f-zero, frank lloyd wright, the beatles
    • Radio regulated. Unwholesome songs not permitted on the radio. This includes unwholesome lyrics or music style. Forcing people to listen to bad music is a human rights violation. For instance, if someone gets a job at walmart, it is a violation of ethics to force them to listen to trashy radio music all day. Therefore radio stations should be government regulated.
    • Unsavory media labelled. For instance, horror movies are labelled as unsavory and not permitted to talk about media that is labelled as unsavory. It is illegal to knowingly show such media to anyone under the age of 21. And there is a federal warning label that you might need brain bleach after reading the books or movies and that they are not liable for any damages.
    • Banning or regulating certain drugs, such as cigars and cigarettes. Legalization of marijuana. Regulation of drugs like booze, DMT and salvia. Recreational use of DMT and salvia is allowed but only if someone is watching nearby in order to call an ambulance if they have an allergic reaction. Buying booze is allowed however buying booze will require you hand in your car keys to the store. The car keys you hand in will be secondary keys (keys to unlock the keys) so the store owner cannot hijack your car. All cars will also be equipped with a breathalyzer to activate the vehicle in case you decide to give your booze to your designated driver. In case of a breathalyzer malfunction they can disable the breathalyzer, however too many breathalyzer deactivations will be viewed as suspicious activity. Furthermore, cigarettes are allowed for schizophrenics since tobacco supposedly helps reduce schizo symptoms, but it will only be wholesome organic cigarettes prescribed by psychiatrist.
    • All cars will have an auto-pilot function and steering wheel mode. It will be illegal to make cars that only have auto pilot mode. This is because corrupt corporations could program the AI to enslave the drivers routes, the AI could even drive them off a cliff. On the other hand, autopilot will reduce drunk driver incidents. If drunk you must drive on autopilot and it will be illegal to drive on steering wheel mode.
    • School ergonomics. Students will be provided with comfy seats so they no longer feels like prisoners or slaves of the system. School will be educational instead of George Bush forcing people to conform to the corrupt establishment. There will be less homework, quizzes and tests. It will be illegal to provide students with hard seats. Also it is a human rights violation to give students too much homework, it is also a human rights violation to make teachers grade all that homework. Instead there will be more recess and physical activity, science shows the brain increases intelligence with exercise and being outdoors. Therefore school needs more hands on activities and stuff like that. Furthermore, the interior decoration of the school must be changed, beautifying the interior design of schools.
    • Citizen class and rank system. Citizens will be divided into citizen ranks, for instance those with iq higher than 150 are a certain rank of citizen. All citizens will get human rights, except the very low rank ones. Homeless will have human rights. The low rank refers to people like terfs or dissidents.
    • Rolling out robots and AI to eliminate poverty and to reduce dehumanizing menial labor. Robots will take jobs and UBI will be given to all citizens. Rental rates will be regulated so that homeless can afford housing with UBI.
    • It will be illegal for homeless shelters to discriminate against males or lgbts. It will be a human rights violation to only accept females into a shelter (most homeless are males) or ban trans from a homeless shelter.
    • End workplace discrimination and get equality. Whites will no longer be discriminated against for being white. Affirmative action will be illegal.
    • Penalties for bad parenting. Toxic households are regulated by gov.
    • Gender harmony and balance. Gays and lesbians can legally marry. But gays and lesbians must share a house so that kids get both masculine and feminine parental values. Every kid deserves to have masculine and feminine parental values. If the lesbian has some masculine attributes and the other is fem then thats fine and counts as a mother and father. If one of the gays is a femboy and the other is chad then thats fine and they do not need to raise their kids with another lgbt couple. Same applies to trans. If one of the transwomen is a tomboy or 2spirit and has some based masculine tendencies like being a gamer, then they do not need to raise kids with another lgbt couple. If neither transwomen is a gamer then they need to share a house in order to raise children with based lgbts.
    • Make racism illegal. It will be illegal to bully someone based on their race. Furthermore, if a black has 150 iq and can do the job, not hiring them will be viewed as suspicious activity, if all the other candidates are less qualified. Here is an example. If the show is about white culture, then they do not have to hire blacks. But if its a show about black communities and blacks cant get hired, then not hiring them will be viewed as suspicious activity.
    • Rational eugenics programs. For instance if someone is ugly and wants beautiful genes, they are given crispr by government. Ugly incels are given free genetic enhancement by gov so they can be productive contributors of society.
    • Redirecting military funds into science. Our military will pour more money into science in order to create technology that betters the world. For instance, Lockheed Corporation helped create the Daytona game which was a great game. We will use crispr to boost the IQ of our scientists, and also discover how consciousness operates among other things. The high IQ scientists will build an even higher IQ Ai that will help society. There will be 3 factions of scientists, the cyborgs, the DNA editted scientists, and the cyborg DNA editted scientists. Both will have extremely high IQ such as 400 iq. Before the AI is built, special guns and weapons will be handed out to our military and militias and citizens. The guns and weapons will defeat the AI if there is a robot rebellion. However there will also be additional failsafes for that not to happen. You do not want a HAL9000 type incident happening in society.
    • Dating equality. Males and females will be standardized, like zelda. The plot of Ocarina of Time will be altered so that Link is not an incel at the end of the game. There will be no more gender inequality or confusion about masculine men. Women will like 2 kinds of men, femboys and chads. There will be no more cultural movement of trying to force men to be hairy bluto type men. Instead males will be allowed to be efficient males and beautiful males. Males will get equal sexual attention and compliments as females get.
    • Domination by trans. Trans identified will have higher citizen status than others. Science shows MTF have on average 20 iq higher than everyone else. If a MTF is too cuck or simp then they are just treated as yet another normie. Only the higher tier trans get the status.
    • Ultimately, domination by Futa. Futa will have even higher rank than other trans. However this cannot happen yet until crispr technology gets better. Science shows that androgenous people are better at being music composers. Ancient peoples also recognized the wisdom and importance of having 2 spirits since they have 2 perspectives instead of a limited perspective of only one gender.
    • Failsafes for domination, if the futa is too corrupt or crooked, or too cuck or simp they can be impeached easily.
    • Mercy and compassion given to cis. Cis that live in rural areas can retain their masculinity and are not forced to become futas. Maintaining diversity is important, society would get boring if everyone was the same.
    • Something to replace boy scouts with. Our youth needs something to fight against boredom and a wholesome activity that makes them have purpose in their life and community. Maybe some kind of non-gendered youth program, with a focus on science, sports and art. Perhaps maybe a youth militia where its not like a boot camp but some mild exercise, learning how guns work and how to maintain a firearm, and battle strategy. Other divisions could be focused on the humanities like science and art. There needs to be something for youth besides just rotting at boring schools and staring at iphone and social media all day.
    • Nonviolent global domination and conquering, strong border policies. We will allow legal immigration but uphold the law. Our society will be so great that we will have a flood of immigrants wanting to come here for a better life, unfortunately a flood of illegal immigrants would destabilize and potentially collapse our great civilization. In this manner we conquer the world without firing a single shot. Other countries, seeing how great our nation is, will be offered a chance to become annexed by us and one of our states. In return for their loyalty we can send engineers to help build their civilization. This will increase the quality of life of their nation and of the world, and their citizens will want to live in their own country, instead of just trying illegally invade our country.
    • Banning 90% of television, only wholesome TV is allowed. Acceptable TV is like MLP, science documentary shows, and approved movies. TV is just another drug that leads to rot, it is no different than many other addictive drugs besides that it does not offer as much reward as drugs.
    • Regulation of gaming. Indie game developers tend to fill up nintendo e shop with trash and garbage games. There needs to be a system in place, such as a limited amount of games you can create. So you can either create one 59 dollar game, three 20 dollar games, or ten 5 dollar games. After that, indies must enter a death battle with other indies IRL, to choose by mechanism of darwinian natural selection. Some say this is illogical but in Star Trek the Vulcans had a similar ritual as well, so it is actually quite logical.
    • Once the elixir of immortality is made, society will become very overpopulated, population must be regulated by means of darwinian death battle as well. Cowards may opt out and become sterilized so they cannot reproduce. The death battle will occur at age 50 so you have until that time to reproduce, otherwise you must either be sterilized or participate in the battle. The battle will consist of 5v5 teams, humans are a social species and team cohesion is necessary. I thought about making it a FFA but I realized that is even worse odds (1v7), even if your team is bad that still gives you better odds (1v5.)
    • Also, if one of their games is really good then indies do not have to enter a death battle to have the right to produce content. They will be listed as an AAA and be subject to the regulation of AAA. For instance AAA will be regulated such that they do not regurgitate the same content over and over, also at least 50% of the funds must go into game development instead of marketing. If they are caught regurgitating too much then their copyright is revoked and their IP is public domain. Further infractions may result in them being demoted back to indie status in which they are again subject to death battles.
    • Upholding of ancient pagan traditions like Christmas. Teaching kids mainstream Jxt religion will be considered child abuse, it will be acceptable to teach them wholesome variants of Jxt such as gnostic christianity or lgbtq friendly christianity.
    • Radical restructure and end to corruption in the medical industry. Fair and affordable treatments, no forced government insurance. Development of brain bleach to erase unsavory memories like mainstream jxt religion. Real cures for mental illness instead of trying to exploit people with harmful pills. Disrupt the conspiracy of mainstream quacks who want to keep real medicine and treatments from being known to the public. Make medical terminologies in the native language of a nation instead of Latin. Prevent ridiculous fees like $3000 for an MRI.
    • Atheism leads to social decay so we will need some other religion to replace it with, perhaps FIM type religion.
     
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    There is a lot to unpack here.

    First of all, shit happens. We cannot expect a world that is totally perfect. If someone doesn't know how to properly suicide perhaps we can teach them how by some sort of PSA. But shit happens. You can't protect against all illogical behaviors such as people doing stunts on skyscrapers and stuff like that. And the world would not be perfect if everyone was the same and there wasn't any random diversity. If people did not do illogical stunts like walking on skyscrapers then there would be not much in terms of natural life, society would quickly become droll and automotonly.

    Shotguns are a very effective way of suicide, there's not much to be done if they are drunk and not aiming correctly at their brain. We shouldn't restrict the rights of the 99% who can suicide correctly just because of 1 person who failed. Not to mention you can get a 1 shot shotgun for a cheap price of 80 dollars. How much in taxes are we spending to suicide people in clinics? When those taxes could be better spent at increasing the quality of life of society so noone kills themself anymore.

    Also, acting like all depressed people are going postal is just hysteric nonsense, its dehumanizing to the mentally ill and ablist to assume all mentally ill people are postal. its more dehumanizing "us vs. them" tribal nonsense and trying to justify human rights violations.



    The whole monetary system needs to be restructured. If the gov doesn't like it they can suck it.

    Money is a fictitious concept, what matters is wealth. Robots and AI will be generating large amounts of wealth, some of this wealth will be stored as UBI and given to citizens.

    There will still be money and different wealth tiers in society, lazy bums will get only a basic UBI which covers food shelter and transportation. Eliminating money completely (communism) does not work, it ignores natural human ego, darwinian evolution, and the humans desire to both compete and contribute. The communists did not fairly reward the guy who made Tetris, the gov got rich and didn't give him much money for his efforts. China's economy is getting stronger precisely because they don't solely rely on communism anymore but also incorporate some of capitalism into the economy.

    I can further explain how money is a fiction. For instance companies like Apple produce garbage products that are built to fail on purpose, products engineered so that engineers cannot repair the products. This creates a lot of money while actually detracting from the actual wealth. Money in this way can reward companies but not actually generate real wealth or value to a civilization.
     
  18. M_Ranko

    M_Ranko Straight edge xXx

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    I don't have time to go over that list in detail right now, gotta sign off for tonight. But how were you planning to actually pass all this into law? Where is your political power and pull? That media censorship and those citizen ranks for example are straight, fascist, communist China/North-Korea -levels of bullshit. Precisely what they do over there, and precisely what other nations seek to avoid doing. What about people who are of the Jewish faith in your system? Will they have to start wearing yellow stars again? Will they need to go to camps again, where their lives are given "meaning"?

    While I liked a few of the individual suggestions, there's so much there in that list that is simply based on pure fantasy. Some of the tech you listed actually doesn't even exist. And there's no way that western societies are gonna agree to the level of media control that you're proposing. That violates freedom of speech. There's also no way that trans people are gonna get those levels of special treatment and privileges. At worst, you've just created a system where the elite trans class are hated and reviled even more than they are now. Don't think for one minute that this wouldn't erupt as violence towards them, especially since you've just advocated and enabled a system where all sorts of violent crazies get to own guns. Guns that would be turned on the trans community. This shit is unrealistic and would burn down faster than the Hindenburg.
     
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    My purpose on earth is to make a better world. Don't interfere.

    The dark ages of human primitives have gone on far too long. The price of freedom is not free.

    People shouldn't uphold a mentally ill deteriorating society just because of "muh freedom". Too many anarchist minded folk out there who think trauma or unwholesome content should be allowed in media just because of anarchist rebellious musings about freedom. Whats far more important than freedom is quality of life.

    Secondarily, it seems a bit hypocritical to whine about freedom when I offer you more freedom than our current society has. I offer the idea that teens should have more freedom instead of being slaves for 9 hours daily. Our current society forces teens to go to school for 7 hours then do homework for 2 hours. Where is the freedom brigade when it comes to stuff like that? Instead I remove a few rights here and there that aren't really that important and people complain.

    Like why do randoms think they have a right to design their business in a fashion that does not conform to the public good? It is a human rights violation to have to live in poverty looking at a bad scenery degenerate looking town. At what point do rights interefere with human rights? Should humans have the human right to litter a bunch of cigs at beaches? Should people have the right to walk around town with sagging pants with their underwear showing? Some rights shouldn't be given if it interferes with other rights.

    You can compare me to China but don't you dare compare me to NK. I am the opposite of NK, I propose less prisons, while they are a backwards nation that is pro-prison.

    As far as the jewish angle, as long as jews do not circumcise they are fine. Circumcision will of course be banned. Racism will be illegal so bad whites and bad jews will be dealt with equally, why should whites get a free pass to be bad.
     
  20. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    From - a polite notice (part of the politic forum guidelines)

    Hi

    A lot of what is appearing on the Politics forum these days is just culture war propaganda and even out and out lying not genuine discussion or debate.

    I hope this will stop but if hope doesn’t work other avenues might need to be taken

    Debate can become passionate even robust and that is a good thing BUT it has to remain rational but some people having no rational arguments are falling back on lies or emotional arguments that are meant to raise an emotional response driving out any possibility of rational and honest debate.

    It becomes less about bringing knowledge or enlightenment or making a rational point and just descends into unexplained and unsubstantiated statements, snide asides and lies.

    It is basically trolling – purposely trying to destroy the purpose of the forum

    Thing is if people don’t want to debate honestly then why come to a place that is meant to be about honest debate other than to try and stop that debate.

    And I’m asking them to please enter into the spirit of the forum or just stop posting here.

    Balbus – Politic forum moderator
     

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