Need help!!!

Do you guys really think a mom that finds these drugs and goes online for help would find THIS forum and THIS section? i mean she found the exact place to post this to actually get help which is why i figured just a troll in the first place

But maybe she did just happen to find this forum through a little googling, and maybe she just said the glass of orangejuice thing thinking we havent heard that before

 

Well I've flushed all of the drugs and talked more with him about it, and he seems to be saying the same things you guys are. After reading more topics on this site I don't think you people are the best to take advice on how he should be punished, but at least I can understand why he would seek such drugs in the first place.

And about the orange juice thing - I didn't know the friend personally but my friend knew the persons friend or brother.

 

Slap yourself

He shouldn't be punished. "Punishment" may be the reason he feels the need to take these chems in the first place.

 

you should just call the police and get it over with..

before you do.. TITS OR GTFO..

 

Also, I'd like to say that I think it's fukt up that you ask for our help, only to dismiss our advice when you don't get a response that justifies your ignorance. Educate yourself and get back to us.

 

Post...?

 

OMG this is going in my sig hahahaha

 

If you become close-minded and push, he may become close-minded and push.

That's been my experience.

 

More like 85

 

All of these are fine in moderation. I really doubt it's anything to really worry about, alot of people experiment with drugs. It's only a problem when it becomes habitual,detrimental to their health, and interferes with day to day life.

I'd like to say though; that it was smart of you to confront him about it. It shows you're concerned ,but sending him away for psychiatric help like some of the other posters have stated--> isn't the right idea. First of all because what he's doing is completly normal, it's curiousity.

Telling him he can't do it will force him to run off and do it on his own in a possibly unsafe environment. It's more practical to research the drugs with him: a great site for that is www.erowid.com <--- It has been extremely helpful for me and it's a great reference site to look back on for precautions,do's, and dont's. We live in a time now where drug use is becoming more and more acceptable and to be expected. What he's doing is illegal though, so, informing authorities could mean trouble for himself and if he's a minor for you. So, I think the best approach is to discuss this more extensively with him, inform yourself and him so that it's done properly.

I know finding drugs in your son's room isn't something you probably imagined when you brought him home from the hospital as a baby, but it's important that instead of being hostile and pushing him away that you question his choices and make sure it's done safely; so that he won't have to be in the hospital ever again.

Much love!
-S
If you have any questions feel free to message me.

 

whoops.

 

I honestly think you should have took the MDMA yourself put on a daft punk album and started caressing him and telling your son how much you love him like 100 times. I think that tactic would have scared the shit out of him and he would never do psychedelics again.

 

hahahahahahaha Daft punk is gay. How about some O.T.T. My fav song is Rouge bagel.

 

hahaha yes

but then she might think she is a stuffed bear and won't move in case she got a tear and the stuffing comes out

 

Okay, you seem really cool for the most part. I know a lot of parents would of just flipped shit if they found a bunch of powders in their 17 year old son's room. One thing I would suggest, is to do some actual research. Research Alexander Shulgin and Albert Hoffmann. You are obviously ignorant of psychedelics, the orange juice thing is laughable because it's a well known myth. There is a lot of a misinformation on psychedelics, so research well.

 

throwing his drugs out is punishment enough

 

This thread saddens me. We pay a horrible and ongoing price for ignorance and lack of education in this country and we Hipforum members are watching it being played out right here.

You already know these drugs are harmful for your son? How could you? You are ignorant!

That would almost be like me saying that i KNOW that pork is nothing but poison simply because my government or church told me this is the case.

This whole thing makes me shudder. i suspect your son is also ignorant. What a depressing combination. It's no wonder we still have ongoing problems with what used to be called "the generation gap."

i guess it's just easier to come to immediate conclusions without taking time to read hundreds of pages and seek a higher education, perhaps even with your son. That would be too difficult, time consuming and dare i suggest, perhaps would cut into your own time for addictive behaviors . . . .

And regarding your either evil (trollish) or ignorant (stupid) comment regarding the friend who took acid and thought she was a glass of orange juice: Either you are a liar or she is. Acid almost never has that type of effect and guess what? If she was going to pop/have a breakdown it was INEVITABLE. It was going to happen NO MATTER WHAT! Taking LSD may have moved the breakdown date up by one minute, one day, or perhaps even six months. But, trust me, acid does NOT create lasting psychotic breaks in people without endogenous issues . . . .

And since i have had the nerve to mention your addictions and you have accused us forum members of defending our addictions, i will tell you a bit about myself: i used to be addicted to prescription painkillers, muscle relaxants and SSRI anti-depressants. i had a dx of osteo-arthritis with osteophytes in my 30's and my life had been surrounded with a hell of a lot of death.

i came back to psychedelic use in desperation and addiction. Psychedelics showed me the way out. i flushed ALL of those drugs and currently refuse pain meds even when offered/encouraged by medical professionals. The actual detox was 3 days of physical hell followed by many many weeks/months of psychological discomfort, but the psychedelic experiences took me out of my own head, out of my usual way of thinking and showed me that i could do this, that i could simply not use and get through the day.

i am currently psychologically addicted to cannabis, as it is the only med i currently use to treat my arthritis and my ongoing issues with being underweight on the BMI. Unfortunately, though i did kick once, i am back on caffeine and it has me by the short, curlies and headaches . . . .

i am a consumer of psychedelic drugs but they are NOT addictive. In fact, i have written elsewhere on this forum that they are self-regulating. Psychedelics in fact as a class of "recreational" drugs are the hardest to take - one is not guaranteed a euphoric experience and one often has to take a harsh and honest look at oneself and one's fears. Takes some real guts and willingness to face oneself and get some work done.

When i do NOT take psychedelic drugs i do not experience much in the way of cravings. Zero physical and very little psychological and only that if things have been going very well in my work . . . .

A tiny bit more on addiction, then i am done. And only this because of the pure ignorance - it must be fought tooth and nail. HARM REDUCTION FOR THE WIN!

Psychedelic drugs fit into a neurotransmitter receptor that is part of the Serotonin system, called the 5H2A.

Addictive drugs deal with completely other neurotransmitter receptor systems, specifically dopamine. Other addictive behaviors also trigger dopamine releases in the human brain. It's a blast of pure pleasure. It comes with things like cocaine and other addictive drugs.

Please try to think about what i just wrote - and please feel free to do your own research (PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!) - psychedelic drugs do not trigger the addiction system in the human brain. They are influencing a completely different system. Serotonin is NOT dopamine.

Education, education, education. Fight ignorance. Open your mind. Do not trust everything you are told and read. Don't believe anything you read here. DO SOME HONEST TO GOD RESEARCH. Partner with your child. Learn together.

Perhaps a good argument could be made that 17 is just too young. It is good to work to maximize education, experience and imagination before doing work with entheogens, because at that point (IMHO 25 years plus) you have something really significant to work with . . . .

Peace & Love,
Spicey Cat
(curling up in a depressed ball in the dirty laundry to sleep - discouraged)

 

Hilarious, I remember the first time I heard this song, OTT is badass.

Had me thinking what exactly was a rogue bagel.

 

LOL! i just read this one over and not only is it hilarious it is profoundly insightful! If you did what my good friend querillabedlam suggested, you probably would scare your son away from psychedelic use for life . . . . It would freak him out more than the worst "bad trip" ever could.

Peace & Love,
Spicey Cat
(head pops up from laundry - brrrrp!)

 

I had the WHOLE BLUEGRASS FESTIVAL dancing to that song after the music stopped at 2am

I put my iphone on a FM reciever and we had like 20 cars crank that shit up. Made a huge fucking rave in a giant gravel pit. People were dancing on vehicles and shit. It was the best night of my life.