Natural human diet.

Absolutely... but I'm conditioned to react that way. Think about exactly what mentally conditions us?

As members of a society that is clearly engineered to serve the fortunes of an elite few, most of us are so far removed from the functions that we're supposed to serve biologically that I doubt that any one of us are qualified to answer the original post... but this is a very good discussion and if it gets just one person to start questioning what he or she puts in the mouth it will have served a very good purpose.

 

How attractive is it to clear-cut a tropical forest? Displace and kill all the animals? That’s where your rice come from..
How attractive is it to terrorize families in Iraq? That is where the gas that ships your rice comes from..
You are just paying someone to do the dirty work while you just stroll around your nice little health food store and buy things with attractive labels that make your ego feel good.
Typical consumer marketing scheme, you tell your customers your product will make them better then the rest of the consumers. It is like a religious mind set and people will deny all facts that don’t support their superior ego.
It is the same thing with Harley Davison, BMW and all the clothing and fashion marketers.
I have the same type conversation with Harley Davison fans they tell me that Harleys are all American and everything else is import junk and lower blabla. You can tell them the transmission is made in Japan the engine in china the whole bike 90% made in foreign countries and they will deny all of it and continue to believe they are supporting America and everyone else is a trader.
People who don’t wear Nikes aren’t as cool,, women who don’t have Italian handbags are low-grade whores.
It is all consumers’ junk supporting a global market yes even your rice and beans they were grown in a clear cut and shipped around the world with gas from Iraq.
It is funny I have met a few vegetarians that grow all their own food and they don’t have that elite mind set. I think it is all a consumer self-righteous headspace.
It is almost impossible to grow all your own food in one climate only a very few climates will let you do that; it is much easier and realistic to raise meat with a few crops.
You are obviously talking from a perspective of a self-righteous consumer in a global market.

 

That was a good post I was hoping someone would post some anthropology stuff.

This is interesting can you tell a little more about this or do you have any link to more info on the subject?

I was thinking about that for a bit and it makes sense in a wild environment things would only fruit in seasons and most of the time and herbivore would have to eat just leaves. So I guess the question would be could a human process leaves and pull useable nutrition out of it? I doubt it but I don’t know much about nutrition.



I was looking around on info about the differences in monkey and human digestive systems I found some interesting material on the subject of that and “were humans natural vegetarians?”
The info is from vegetarians but seems to be not to biased and well researched. If you go to the bottom of the page it has links to similar material.
http://www.beyondveg.com/billings-t/comp-anat/comp-anat-2a.shtml
I hope I’m not breaking an outside link rules there is noting foe sale on any of the links

 

I think we are meant to eat a raw, unprocessed vegan diet. I wish I could stick to it!

 

Well...it's also important to eat locally...

 

Okay, here's the deal.

I am not a vegan, but I think slaugterhouses are wrong because they do not respect the spirit of the animal, instead they are just products & that is a slap in the face to the earth. Plus all this industry is bad on the environment (soy crops, etc.)

I think people were meant to eat meat but VERY rarely. When things died off in the winter & people were hungry they had to submit to meat-eating for survival. Survival is natural, eh?

I think most of the diet should consist of veggies, beans, & nuts (limiting grains), like soaringeagle mentioned, but eat meat on a very rare occasion (the heavier the meat, the rarer). This is why we have canines but not fangs like a tiger or the like.

I do think milk products are unnatural, but unferilized eggs are understandable from time to time.

I think raw meat is unnatural & pretty unsafe.

Also, overeating meat DOES lead to pounds of undigested food in your gut. I do think that's common knowledge & if you disagree with that, then you are losing validity with me.

Finally, the more basic the food (preservatives=evil), the more you are back to nature. That boca stuff is pretty Frankenstein...

Also, the whole meat is poison thing doesn't make sense when I think about salt. We need salt to live, it is essential for hydration regulation (coupled with water, of course), but go on a salt free diet & then go back to salt & you will find yourself very sensitive. So I dunno about that. I think meat is a poison if it is over consumed.

Really I think we should just stay away from casein & gluten.

So I say, be like the Native Americans...RESPECT.

 

I agree.. but it is tough, The past few years I have been living in Colorado and in the winter any kind of fresh fruit or veggies is imported. You try to buy local and most of the local merchants are selling imports. You ask them how it is better then paying a fraction of the price for the basically the same stuff at Wal-mart and they say we buy “fair trade items” so the Asian worker gets $1.15 a day instead of $1.02 ? wow so he buys a baseball cap instead of a straw hat. Or they say that they don’t use a certain chemical on the tomatoes, big deal they are still from a clear cut forest, watered form a dammed river and still shipped around the world.

I live in Boulder Colorado and there is millions and millions of dollars in the organic health food industry but it is all buying imports all winter long..

A lot of them import all this soybeans and rice process it with illegal Mexican labor in a factory and then label it “Local” but in reality 90% of it was made in Asia shipped over here and processed and packed in plastic containers from china with labor wages so cheap only a illegal immigrant can work for them. Mean while the owner drives a BMW and lives in a 6500 square foot home but he usually shows off a new hybrid car he bought and $250,000 worth of solar panels on his huge “green” custom home.
It’s hard to really buy local in a lot of climates, when I lived in closer to the equator no problem but in cold climates it is hard in the winter.

I wish the local “organic” or “green” consumers would come up with some better options and support them.

 

about the gorilla thing... its been observed by a research group that gorillaz protect baby antelopes from predators! haha and when they're hungry the gorilla catches and eats the little antelopes... whoa no tools or fires! farout. raw! ahhhhh!

eskimos eat all their meats raw... fish, seal, musk-ox, and some eat bears but not the liver, because its to rich in vitamin c.

ive eatin raw liver! right after a buffalo hunt... it was pretty tasty. being native american i know few things... some plains indians ate raw meats, ever heard of drying meats... u dont need to cook meat. jerky.

u can poison urself eating/drinking to much carrots... eating almonds is poisonous to most animals except humans... chocolate is a poison to dogs and cats.

 

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Heroin in the human body is converted to morphine. Morphine has been shown to occur naturally in the human body as an endogenous chemical.
Article from The Journal of Immunology, 2005, 175: 7357-7362.
Link - http://www.jimmunol.org/cgi/content/full/175/11/7357

 

Evolutionary wise, we could eat raw meat,it was suggested though, that raw meat is harder to digest, thus more energy would have to be divided through the body.The history channel showed how our brains grew possibly. When we found out how to cook meat, it makes it alot easier to digest and such,therefor less energy is needed in the digestion system, and more energy could be given to the other body parts and organs, thus the brain had more nutrients. They used this to explain a small gap in species or w.e

 

NatureBoy, you ask a very good question, and got a lot of varied responses, mostly centered around if early man ate meat or not. It's a fun discussion to read.

It had me curious enough to fire up my favorite search engine and read, read, read. When I am trying to find an answer, I completely avoid secondary sources. I read articles written by the scientists in the field. Peer reviewed scholarly journals are an excellent source, and maintain a rigorous standard of proof.

As for the whole raw versus cooked thing, I’ll take my information uncooked. Early man ate a wide variety of foods and used cooking as a means to make more foods edible so their kids didn't die so often.