Natural Calm

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Pressed_Rat, Dec 1, 2013.

  1. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    thats because it's being proven at best most vitamin supps are either phony or provide no measurable benefit.
    All of lifes ills huh? Now you are exaggerating.
    Phamacuticals are prescribed by doctors, you can't use that as justification for your own psuedo-scientific speculation about over-the-counter supps.
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Because the bulk of those studies are based on cheap, synthetic vitamins which do not properly digest and assimilate, and therefore DON'T provide any measurable benefit. There is a big difference between a low-quality vitamin you buy at the grocery store, which is filled with all sorts of nasty binders and chemical additives, and a quality whole food vitamin that contains real, naturally-sourced ingredients. The difference between the two is like night and day.

    I would agree that a person who is taking cheap vitamins is just throwing their money away.
     
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    i get magnesium from almond milk..
     
  4. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Yeps, every evening that I smoke I always sleep well and deep. That's how I ment it ;) :p

    But just wondering, now that you take something of this before sleeping would you still take some if you also would smoke that evening, or then skip it?
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I would still take it, since there are other reasons for taking magnesium besides sleep.
     
  6. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    What are the most important for you?
     
  7. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    Well something needs to be done, else I'm afraid if the FDA gets their way vitamin suppliments may one day only be available by prescription. :eek:
     
  8. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    I was totally interested until I saw the stevia part...stevia makes me so nauseous
     
  9. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    I agree, stevia is awful :ack2:
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    You can get the unflavored one, which doesn't contain stevia.
     
  11. Fairlight

    Fairlight Banned

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    Happy
    Take a vitamin.
    Sad
    Take a pill.
    Indifferent
    Take a journey
    Or lose your will.
     
  12. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i'm not sure how natural calmness even is, although the opposite extreme is just as unnatural a state to be in a majority of the time either.

    at any rate i prefer calmness. until my retirement income kicked in, i knew very little lack of anxiety except in my dreaming in my sleep.

    i don't see how anything you consume is supposed to make ambient stressors go away. (unless you could get away with consuming them. RAWR ...)
     
  13. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    The only issue with taking supplements is that often people do not balance the other ones that will be also be influenced by increasing something. For example if you increase your magnesium then you should also be monitoring your potassium, calcium and zinc.

    That can not be done without blood work.

    The best way to increase intake is naturally through eating properly. If you do so you do not require supplements unless medication or medical conditions dictate that you do.

    Supplements are drugs and should not be taken unless required.
     
  14. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    Exactly :2thumbsup:
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Required by what/whom?

    What you stated is an opinion... not a fact.
     
  16. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    I agree it is an opinion but it is also one shared by many professionals who state that eating properly is the key to overall health. What you are stating is also an opinion.

    Required as in there is a deficiency that is measurable by testing your blood. By whom, by those who are shown to have one then it is medically advisable to boost their system with supplements. For example some medications that are required for a medical conditions can deplete vitamins and or minerals so supplements are required as the medication is required. Balance is kept and over all health is kept and monitored.

    You are not speaking of taking a multivitamin with minerals instead it is one compound that it is at the maximum daily recommended dosage. Without a check and balance.

    Supplements are legal drugs that are no different than any other OTC medications and like all others over use is not beneficial to anyone in the long term. Far too many people take supplements and disregard that they are medicine.
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Eating properly is the key to overall health first and foremost. This I already stated. I take supplements to optimize my health -- not as a replacement to healthy eating. A person can eat a bunch of crap food, and supplements aren't going to do much for them. I am not advocating this, nor am I advocating that people start taking supplements without first doing research. I think blood testing is beneficial and even important for certain vitamins, like vitamin D, which can build up to toxic levels if you take too much over a prolonged period of time, but I don't think taking a magnesium supplement or multivitamin warrants blood testing since we are not talking about mega doses.

    A person can eat healthy, or think they are eating healthy, but that doesn't mean that they are not deficient in certain vitamins, when it is a widely known fact that many people are deficient in vitamins/minerals like vitamin D, zinc, K2, magnesium, B12, etc. It is good that people have their blood tested maybe once a year to determine their vitamin levels, but I don't think it is absolutely necessary except when it comes to a non water soluble vitamin like vitamin D, which accumulates in the body over time, and can cause problems if you take too much (or have too little in your blood).
     
  18. Heat

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    If a person is taking a multivitamin with minerals and is eating healthy then there is no harm as they are meant to be taken daily as they are minimized dosages to supplement a healthy lifestyle.

    The issue is increasing only one thing as our bodies are not designed that way. If you increase one mineral or vitamin it is very probable that you can throw the corresponding healthy values of others askew. We are designed for balance and by increasing only particular values the others are no longer in balance. The exception is as I mentioned that from some medications or conditions that deplete a specific value then supplementing for that is a given but that is also done under supervision as that can also vary and dosages have to be constantly adjusted.

    Given in particular your diet, your magnesium should be very much in line with what is required as you eat food rich in it.
     
  19. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Great video pertaining to magnesium and testing the blood for magnesium levels.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXhUeRFE-kg"]Magnesium Deficiency - No Test Required - Mark Sircus, Ac., OMD - YouTube
     
  20. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    there is nothing "natural" about manufacturing or consuming a pill.
     

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