My view on religion.

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by the_dude, Dec 31, 2004.

  1. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

    I am sure that there is no "GOD", as the christians and most religions think of him, and i have accepted that and for a some time ago i realized that religion is a realy good thing, as long as its not harming anyone.
    You see, religion puts hope in people and its just a great to thing do. Its like a motivator, in this bizare comedy wich we call life, to do things. Many of these acts are often of good nature and some are just for keeping yourself occupied. cu we all need something to do during our lives and religion is like a motivator.
    i myself was thinking of becoming a Rastafari because they only do productiv acts and have a realy happy view of life.
    Religion is realy something that makes life a bit easier to look at, as long as they are doing whats right.
    I know that there is no "God" but i find it a very healthy way of living if joining a productive religion.
    But you should realy look at what the religion stands for and think about it, if it is the right thing to do. if you find a religion, wich isnt against anyone or anything, then joing it!
  2. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

    Sounds like a good attitude. Very spiritually open and accepting, which to me is a way to show love. I think you are looking at religion from a very healthy perspective.

    That is just my opinion, though, and only shows that I like your post, and mostly agree with you.
  3. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

  4. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

    The great thing about this day and age is we can research and learn about pretty much anything we want. That allows us to be open to religion and learn which lifestyle will work best for ourselves. We don't have to be confined only to the beliefs spread by word of mouth anymore. We don't have to wait for someone to inform us of their beliefs before we know anything about it.

    There is much to be learned about Rastafari (which I personally think is a great belief system) and many others out there. It is good to see people exploring it. I personally have been interested in Buddhism lately, but not with the intention of joining the religion, just learning about it. I prefer to learn about all lifestyles and take bits and peices of it all for myself. Like you, I don't necessarily believe in a higher being, but I do believe in leading a positive lifestyle.
  5. Goatman88

    Goatman88 Member

    i used to be Christian (and as far as my parents and family know, i still am) but ive been studying other stuff lately and have kinda made up my own religion that takes beliefs from Buddhism, Hinduism, a few minor religions, and my own stuff and become that lol
  6. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

    The thing is, in the past we have seen paticular religions confined to certain areas because that is all that those people know. Beliefs were spread by word of mouth, and if someone from the east never made if over your way you would never hear of Hinduism. It caused for some very closed belief systems. Now that our society is much more open and able to communicate we can learn and take ideas from eachother. We should take it as an opportunity to grow culturally rather than hide in our religious shells. With the dawning of the communications age (telephone, internet, media, etc...) I wouldn't doubt it if we see some massive changes in religion over the next fifty to a hundred years or so, once the older generations have passed on, and the younger, more informed generations take over.
  7. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

    'With the dawning of the communications age (telephone, internet, media, etc...) I wouldn't doubt it if we see some massive changes in religion over the next fifty to a hundred years or so, once the older generations have passed on, and the younger, more informed generations take over.' Sera Michele

    I love the way you put this, cuz it sounds so close to the descriptions I heard long ago of what the shift into Aquarius would mean. For two millenia, the sign of the fish, Pisces, has been earths location in the stellar zodiac. The beginning of the age of Pisces, 2000 years ago, was ushered in by the start of a new spirituality, a new faith that had as its symbol, the fish.
    Aquarius has been said to be an age when knowledge will be poured out in abundance to all the world's people. The net is doing a fine job of that.
    I just hope the new generations are able to retain the character, love and generosity of the old days, and overcome the old biases, fears, and hatreds.
  8. OSF

    OSF Señor ******

    The dude,

    “as long as its not harming anyone.” is where I’d like to take up the issue. I assume you mean as long as the directions, which guide the religious person, are good (leading to good actions by the individual).

    The thing that I would suppose might come to mind for others when this particular line is questioned would be “according to what definition of good?”.

    I’d like to avoid that question, for now.

    Perhaps the actions that result from the divine direction are harmless. Perhaps we agree that not killing innocent people, or telling the truth, are good actions.

    Is it right to live according to an article of faith? Does not such conscious deception impoverish the self? Is providing a be-all-end-all solution justified by uttering the words no one is harmed? Does that mean justify the end?

    In my humble opinion, religion (supposing that the truth of the matter is not known) may lead to good actions but must be considered a supreme offense.

    To freedom.
  9. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

    My humble views on your post, OSF.
    'And it harm none, do what you will.' I take this to mean that anything you do that harms anyone is so be avoided. The definition of good, in this case, is not clearly defined, but the concept that harming anyone is wrong is implied.
    I like that Wiccan quote a lot.
    I also do not find that religion offends freedom. It does not offend mine.
  10. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams


    Occam thinks our egos are the greatest offense to our


  11. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

    Using knowledge, everybody needs to stop and realise that killing people because of their religion is "wrong". if everyone could take everybody to a state of knowledge when we know all of this, why we shouldnt kill others and stuff like that, then everybody should consider what religion they should be a part of. this act would stop all the fighting abut religions in, for example northern ireland and all of those places. everybody should just question their belifes for a while and think about what their doing in the name of their lord...
  12. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

    I think people should kill people because they want to kill people, not because someone told them to. If you can't make the decision yourself (whether or not to kill someone) then you should probably do what an authority figure tells you- because they will kill you if you don't.
  13. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

    people should realy start thinkng independently. thats what they should teach more at schools...
  14. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

    Perish the thought!
    The western education behemoth realized nearly a century ago just how dangerous that freedom of thought could be. The solution implemented was the methodical dumbing down of the populace. This is obvious to anyone who likes to watch old movies, and has an understanding of script writing, elocution, vocabulary, continuity, cohesion, and plot development. The good writers of the 30's and 40's were far better screenwriters than the present lot.
    The movie "Its a wonderful life", has more substance in the first 10 minutes than the entire list of movies currently playing at any given multiplex.
    There are exceptions. Films which may have been passable if reviewed back then. But they are rare, and not as well done as the best of the past.
    Novels are the same.
    The fact that was the major reason for the lowering of academic standards, was the realization that the more educated one was, the more likely they were to be socialists. Well, we can't have that.
    See Dick, See Jane, See our kids brains turn to jelly.
  15. roly

    roly Senior Member

    How did you come to the conclusion that there is no God?
  16. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

    I would say that is the logical conclusion to come to, or more like to start with. A person would normally have to come to the conclusion that there IS a god, not the other way around. Of course that is different in a culture where you learn about god around the same age you learn about Santa or the Tooth Fairy. When it is easy to believe anything you are told. But not too many people think about it like that.
  17. roly

    roly Senior Member

    I was never taught about God at school til i was at secondary school.
  18. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

    well, how do you define "sure"? im realy just looking at the logical explanations and question the very bases of the belive and came to the conclusion that there "is" no God. or maybe you should think about how u define "God". is God that creature that live up in the sky who rule the heaven and the earth or is "God" the feeling that puts hope in peoples hearts and make them feel young again, that blissfull feeling that realy is just happiness. happiness over the fact that you feel like you do not know it all? bcause we have heard that the fact that you do not know it all is a "blessing", or what you want to call it, and sence you can never know everything, some get extremely happy when get that confirmed. they know that there is something that watches over us and that everything is under the wings of "God"s great plan.
    How do you define "God"?
  19. Spinor

    Spinor Member

    Everything is both true and false at the same time.
    Simply chose your reference frame, and have it as you will.
    Various degrees of concensus arrive out of 'shared' reference frames.
  20. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

    yeah, i know. i want to know what her reference frame is.

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