my trip

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by 3xi, Sep 21, 2008.

  1. sw0o0sh

    sw0o0sh Banned

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    Why don't we step out the box for a moment and see where all these disagreements have been going? Without caring who's right and who's wrong. Let's try this constructive criticism thing.

    I mean what I say, and I'm sure everybody else here means what they say. 3xi seems to assume what everybody means, followed by elaboration on his own assumptions. Does he ever respond directly to what somebody says? No. He breaks it down in his own terms. Not everybody has the same point of view on every situation.. perhaps that could be where all this miscommunication is coming up, no?

    He makes a claim that authentiques making an assumption... and then goes on to make an assumption about what she means. Hmm? Seems a bit contradictive. Clearly miscommunication.

    Seems apparent that somebody can't understand anybody else besides himself. I believe the answer would be, he/she is saying what he/she is saying and nothing else besides that, so elaborate on that. 3xi appears to miss that que every time somebody throws in their point of view. Stop assuming things... damn. Not to mention his assumptions are awfully provokative.

    I can see why nobody understands 3xi's message and why he gets frustrated when people don't understand him. Does anybody understand what exactly he's on about, or what the hell he is trying to defend or uphold anymore? What is he trying to prove in all these novel size messages anyway? It seems like 3xi is just arguing for the sake of arguing, not trying to get anywhere and not trying to settle a damn thing. He's not clarifying anything except his mental position on an argument.

    3xi, You also threaten to leave your wife over silly things like health choices, why not accept her for who she is rather than picking out her flaws? Is who she is already not good enough? Accepting people for who they are.. now.. that might just show you what true loves about. You obviously think there's something wrong with her if she isn't the way you want her to be already. But then again there's always time to turn around, right? Nobody's going to ever be perfect from your point of view.

    The best thing by far LSD has ever taught me is, that there is no better person to be besides yourself. What else are we anyway under these accumulated levels of negativity, interpretations, and judgements on ways to be? Loving human beings. And even when we find ourselves buried underneath all the bullshit and not ready to collapse? What do most of do on our own anyway? Try to find ways to improve. True, some may give up. But the point still stands.. negativity is taught, it is in no way natural. And it survives through nobody besides the person who chooses to hold onto it and believe in it, aware or not.

    Building an image of perfection in your head is the foundation for ego, and also a pretty sturdy foundation on never being happy with what is already. Building an image of right and wrong in your head is also a foundation for the ego, as it's all a matter of opinion and human created anyway. There is no winners in the game of duality. Arguing is for the sake of defense on a mental position, it's not clarifying anything besides a persons personal point of view, and at best, in hopes that the other person might agree.. and for what anyway?

    And, 3xi, now that I'm done here, I ask you not re-interpret everything I say in your own terms, or bring up the past, but to use your new found openness for constructive criticism and see where I am going with all of this.

    But anyway, like relayer said in the beginning, better luck next trip, the ego seems damn strong and excessive now.
    Cheers.
    :cheers2:

    Hope somebody sees the light.
     
  2. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    from the 1st post.

    a) i think you many have done so again

    b) hope you take some of our advice as constructive criticism.

    i will admit that some people kinda seemed to attack you instead of talk to you like a peer. but maybe you didn't present yourself as a peer, who knows.

    and c) you do make assumptions that irritate the discussion. try making the opposite assumption. maybe the people aren't listening to the truth b/c they have found their own truth.

    also, i would like to ask "What exactly is your main point?" just to clarify. and (like someone else suggested) a brief, concise answer will be best received.

    finally, i am not trying to insult you or disagree with you. i enjoy the topic of conversation. (whatever that is)
     
  3. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    I was making no assumptions!

    That's why i was asking questions for clearification!

    lol
     
  4. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    ya, think about my response again!
     
  5. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    Go back and read post #57
     
  6. blitz7341

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    thats cool how you can learn alot by doing acid. for me lsd dosnt have that kind of mental effect i just feel like its an intoxicant. dont get me wrong its a blast but i dont usually feel like i learn anything. for me mushrooms is what i take to learn. idk maybe its just me but i feel much more connected with my psyche when im on mushrooms
     
  7. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Thank you for clearifying that up
     
  8. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    ^^^ anytime buddy :peace:
     
  9. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    you guys love each other.
     
  10. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    It's true, we only act like children and get into heated arguments on the surface, but deep down, were all soul brothas
     
  11. Share the Warmth

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    You know, you CAN come off as offensive 3xi, and regardless of what you feel or perceive to be the truth about me, I'm no thief. I assisted a friend in shoplifting at Christmas once (I stood behind her to offer concealment while she stole a few things) and that wasn't right, but that's the past, and I did it as a loving favor for a friend, not for monetary gain.

    But yeah you did call me a thief on I think two or more occasions. What's up with that?
     
  12. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    Well, actually I was drunk and was being sarcastic and meant in a romantic way, but yeah, you are right.
     
  13. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    If you honestly think that stealing is wrong and you truly love someone you would not help them steal but instead you would try to help them understand why it is wrong to steal and if they were to continue with their plan you would not be a part of it in order to show them that you do not agree with what they are doing.

    I'm not sure where I called you a thief but I will say this, if you would do that again for your friend (help them steal) then yes you are just as guilty as them and I might as well call you a thief because I sure as hell wouldn't trust you. I might trust you with my life as you have given me no reason to think that you would hurt me in that way but I would not trust you with my money or the keys to my home. If you're over at my house I would make sure my weed is in the drawer out of reach because if you think it is okay for someone you love to steal than when you are in need it will not be that difficult to justify doing it yourself either.
     
  14. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    I'm not sure why you used the word we in this post. Go ahead and speak for yourself if you like as I will not disagree with you when you speak of childish and heated remarks. I don't have a problem responding to your comments in whatever way I feel might help you better understand yourself and how you involve yourself with what should be an intelligent conversation.

    I would like to make sure that it is obvious that I'm here to express my honest perspective so that others may benefit in some way. You obviously have a problem with this and I have no problem with helping you understand where your problem is. If you are to tell me that we should avoid speaking the truth so that we don't upset anyone in life than I'm going to tell you that you are a two-faced coward only because that is exactly what you are saying about yourself. The funny part is that although you feel that way you still find yourself actually trying to upset people but you still manage to avoid the point. Maybe you should try cooling down, accepting people for who they are and trying to be a part of a healthy, honest and intelligent conversation. I hope you don't mind if I refer to you as someone who is capable of involving themselves in an intelligent conversation. I wouldn't want anyone to think that referring to use an intelligent person is suggesting that you are not an intelligent person. If you are able to let go of your hate on for 3xi, relax and try to enjoy a friendly conversation you might find out where the problem was. Don't spit in my face if you expect me to have a smile on my face. Don't suggest that I am wrong to suggest that we should all be honest unless you want us all to realize that you are a liar. I only suggested that you are liar so that you might get upset with me for saying so while you realize that you don't want to be a liar because you would rather be an honest person.

    Although you continue to demonstrate that you're not willing to admit that I play an important role in your life when you constantly badmouth me no matter what I'm talking about I still see you as a friend. Because although it may not be obvious to you it is obvious to me and probably a few others that you have changed a lot over the last year. Of course I'm not going to take all the credit for this or even most of the credit but I have had a powerful effect on who you are today and I don't care if you deny this because I know the truth. Maybe one day you'll thank me for it but it doesn't matter either way because I know deep down inside that you are thankful. I've changed much over the last year as well and although you have not been trying to help me become a better person, inadvertently through your incredibly difficult ways I have managed to refine my communication skills. The better I can communicate to people who can't stand who I am or hate me for who I am the better I am at communicating my message to everyone and for that I thank you. I don't expect you to see me as a friend but I see you as a friend and if it makes you feel better to think that I'm all upset and angry with having to write this post, somehow involving myself in what you call a heated and childish argument then go ahead but let me assure you not only am I calm but I actually enjoy communicating with you. I like challenges as they help me become a better person.

    Why don't you explain to everyone why you are unwilling to accept 3xi as a friend who is deserving of your respect.

    On more than one occasion I've accused a friend of mine of being either a liar or a thief and although in that moment they may not have appreciated what I felt was being a good friend, over time they understood as our friendship continued!
     
  15. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    ^ are you kidding me?

    *shakes head*
     
  16. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    3xi I thought you had a messianic complex before, but now I am beginning to worry that you truly are suffering from some kind of a mental disease. I've never before met someone who was so full of themself. Your importance and wisdom are the likes of sleeping with a prostitute and finding crabs on your dick in the morning, the lesson being, dont fuck whores.
     
  17. Kizen

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    get a grip (y'all fuckers)
     
  18. neodude1212

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    he said we b/c you are a part of these arguments just as much as anyone else is.



    Since you reveal your "truth" in declarative, matter-of-fact statements, I'll do the same. Much of what you say is childish and heated, if not in a round about way.




    no offense, but you should understand and work on your own problems before you try to help others. You'll be able to facilitate the upliftment of their consciousness, rather than just tripping all over your ego.



    and this ^ is not the way to aid others. know your audience. can you imagine if Jesus went around and threw everyone's faults in their face.

    "you are a two-faced coward"

    "oh gee, thanks Jesus, that's just what I needed to hear."

    if you are conversing with an ego-bound individual, directly and flat-out insulting them is obviously not desirable. All you accomplish is a spark of indignation and then everyone goes their merry ways.



    yes, this reminds me of a certain someone else who posts on this forum :rolleyes:

    wise words....perhaps you should take your own advice.




    really dont know what to say about all that. I can't speak for anyone else, but this is just a forum man. You most likely don't impact people as much as you would like to think.



    Here is an excellent example of why you are condescending. First of all, you phrase this as if you were talking to a child, or if you are some sort of authority figure. You can't get through to people like this, but at this point, I'm losing all hope that you actually have something to get through to us. Then you assume that you really are a friend who is deserving of respect. Whether or not that is true, is not for you to decide.



    That's a heartwarming story, but accusing people is like, the worst thing you could possibly do when trying to have, in your words, an intelligent conversation.
     
  19. Mr.Writer

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    Who are you kidding. Your "important message" is nothing more than the manic rants of an angry, opinionated, egotistical wannabe-martyr. You wanna know why you have a hard time getting through to people? It's because you're overwhelming. No, not your nebulous, questionable "important message", but your persona. You exude a nauseating amount of ego, vitriol, self-importance to the point of messiah complex, and just a general head-up-own-ass syndrome.

    I came into this thread hoping to start off on a new page with you, but I see you're the same maniac jerkoff that you have been since I joined these boards.

    YOU are the reason people don't get your message, because there is no way in hell someone like you has any grasp on any truth in life.

    I feel really sad for you 3xi. I was actually thinking of PM'ing you and seeing if you wanted to meet IRL for a toke or something, but you sound like just another crazy asshole, and I've had enough of those for one lifetime.

    Here's to hoping that you one day break through your ego-barrier and are able to turn around and look at what you've made of yourself.

    I think maybe you need to take a few long walks into a forest and look around, at all the things that are not you.
     
  20. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    :cheers2:
     

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