The human being is supposed to be a highly evolved, dignified and intelligent species though...what goes on in, say, slaughterhouses is horrendous...this isnt killing a few animals in order to survive, this is greed, exploitation, unnecessary murder, which harms not only these creatures but our own species in turn. And all other forms of animal abuse are disgusting. Other animals hunt in order to survive, feed their young...and they only hunt if they are carnivores/omnivores by nature, and never on a mass scale. The human being, it can be debated, is a herbivore by nature, or at the very least an omnivore, but NOT a carnivore. We can and do live without meat on such a giant scale and altogether if thats your choice. We can live without cosmetics. Without beating up pet dogs. Other animals do not TORTURE on a mass scale, millions of other animals...no, they dont. They hunt, kill, eat if they must. Thats it. You dont get other animals killing just to make cheap souvenirs either
Oh, and regarding the cat you mentioned...its called practice. See weve "domesticated" cats...but they still have their wild hearts. We feed them from hand, which is in a way UNNATURAL...but because weve domesticated them theyre dependent in that way. They kill mice etc and dont eat them because theyre not HUNGRY, as we feed them...but the INSTINCT to kill is still there I thought that was obvious, personally
And just to cover all bases, just incase, if you meant a wild cat, again, its called practice...they need to perfect their hunting skills in order to SURVIVE...they also kill to teach their young to hunt. If you look at a cat thats what its made for, to hunt to survive...extremely sharp teeth and claws, night vision...thats a cats job, in a way. But we are human beings. Who can paint. And draw. And EMPATHISE fully. That is why a cat bringing us a dead mouse is NOT a nice present for us. Because were not carnivores, were omnivores/herbivores, and were not wild hunters who would starve otherwise Phew
we're not any better than them. they play, too. they goof off, too. they get overpopulated, they ruin their environments, too. we're animals, babe. i wasn't ranting about people who know shit about animals. i was ranting about people who don't know jack shit about animals and then go all "but they're so peaceful, they don't war or murder." btw, pretty good case for human murder just being practice, too. we've also got wild hearts in a domesticated body.
so here's my rant ... i'm just a bit annoyed/pissed off at the present with my in-laws. i can't go anywhere else to vent/rant about this so I figured this was good as place as any. despite them making comments in the past that if we are having trouble financially that we should get rid of the Internet - which well is our lifeblood and we must have it. when their computer broke it took them one week to go from abject poverty to having the dosh to shell out and get a new one. this i'm ok with. however they managed to scrounge and get cash, that's their business, not my place to say anything. i just found it amusing that my hubby and i who use our computer hours each day going online and staying in touch with friends are expected to do without this "luxury" but then they - who don't even use the internet that much and rarely use their computer - couldn't live a week without one. so now, they bought the computer ... they are clueless so ask us to come over and set it up. we told them all along, when buying technology let us know what they are doing so we can advise and help them as best we can. however, they of course didn't do this. the PC they got is fine, but now their monitor isn't working either. so, i was asked to come home and look online for them to see how much a monitor would cost. no problems there. well, as i was looking i found out they could have gotten the same PC with a nice 17" monitor for £30 more than what they spent for just the PC alone. I explain this, but they "don't want the hassle" so they are going to shell out £100 to buy a new monitor instead. So, instead of re-packing the PC in it's box (a process that would take about 10 - 15 minutes) and returning it to one store to then go to another store (where the monitor is they are planning on buying in the first place) and just rebuying the whole lot for the extra £30, they are instead literally flushing £70 down the toilet in order to avoid a bit of inconvienence. the really sad thing is, if they had just asked us in the first place they would have avoided the whole lot. sorry to rant ... but well, it is the thread for it, and considering that my hubby and i have to scrimp and save for everything we get/have it really irks me when people are so casual about their money that they don't mind pissing away £70 at a time.
English grammar can kiss my arse. I hate it. Where do the apostrophes go!? Where does every comma go??! It's all so finicky, and it's where I lose so many of my marks on papers. It'd really be nice if someone had have bothered to teach us this stuff! I HATE grammar!
Humans are not herbivores by nature. We are omnivores by nature, our canines (ripping teeth) point to that, as do our digestive systems as do patterns of life in the state of nature. We have evolved to adapt exceptionally well to our environments and to top whatever food chain in which we find ourselves. However that's not an argument for eating meat. That something is natural does not necessarily make it good. In times of scarcity in particular conditions, we might have benefited in the past from eating meat. In modern societies, however, where it is possible not only to sustain oneself, but to eat healthily without meat, you're right, it does come down to choice. And our concept of morality does lead to a moral choice. Equally, there is no need to test cosmetics on animals, hunt foxes, make coats or rugs or ivory ornaments. Where I would disagree is over the issue of animal testing for medical advancement. Objectively, on a grand scale, humans are no more important than any other creature. Subjectively, however, and despite loving animals, I do value the lives of humans over the lives of animals. Thus where it is absolutely necessary to do so, and I accept it is not necessary in all cases, I would say the lesser of two evils is animal testing for medical advancement. Also, animals do not kill only for food or survival, and it is not simply a case of omnivores/carnivores killing. Animals are far more complex than that. Territorial animals will attack and kill for territory, and not simply the defence of territory. Chimps, for example, are highly aggressive, and have frequently been observed invading one another's territory as one group fights against another for power. They will kill and maim and torture and are extremely ruthless about it. Hippos are herbivores but kill far more people than crocodiles. Male elephants will maim and kill one another for mates. And if we're talking about scale, no one does genocide quite like the giant hornet. In fact the insect world is littered with examples of power struggles, regicide, genocide and war. No, it is not true to say that we are exceptional in any of these respects. What is exceptional about us is that we have created more advanced means of killing, both each other and animals, and that we have routinised and bureaucratised death through a division of labour.... (And just to appease Paul - raaaaaaaargh rant rant rant)
Yeah, I saw a film on this, how different groups of chimps would more or less go to war with eachother over territory, and they were very vicious about it. It was fascinating! What he said.
Not being able to sleep when you have to becuase you have to get up soon! Aurgh! but then I decided it was okay becuase I got a good story idea out of laying there thinking for an hour.
Why oh Why is Anne Robinson on the telly? Just what is the point of porridge? It's not REsearch, it's reSEARCH! Americanisms! People (esp. women and girls) who say "whatever" and "random" and "totally" all the time. Margaret Thatcher, Arrrrrgh! Tony Blair! George Dubya - shouldn't a country's leader have at least something between their ears? People who spit in the street, boy bands, CCTV cameras everywhere you bloody look. Why do Jehovah's Witnesses keep ringing my door bell? Why do I always forget bin day? Jeremy bloody Clarkson! What a knob! Misery Rock, get a life ffs! Etc, etc...
fucking brits who cant get over americanisms. WTF? get the fuck over it already!!! you sound like a cliquey high school cheerleader! gad! deal with it and move on already. wow. i feel better.
Flippin' Americans who cant get over bloody Brits who cant get over friggin' Americanisms; eh?:hysterica What the hell let'sarty:.....and the British'ism' not American term. You and your dirty mind. We're Christians, don't you know!
That morning feel. I hate it. I just had a nap, and now not only have I felt that way once today, now I do again. I'm also freezing. What the! I'm always cold.
Like, whatever sister :tongue: On a similar note, people who don't realise when I'm joking. I have an example, but I'm too tired to type it up right now. Maybe tomorrow.
