My Marijuana Story. Why I Quit and Why im Satisfied with my Decision to quit.

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by hebrewnational00, Apr 11, 2008.

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  1. hebrewnational00

    hebrewnational00 Senior Member

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    The Thing is i can back my shit up, and my points apply to the majority of ppl, ur points like i said b4 is going against all odds, and may apply to ppl who suffer from depression, or wonderchilds.... I understand ur trying to prove urself and defend weed b/c thats what u do, ur stoner, weed is basically what keeps u going, whehter u would like to admit it or not, thats why u are so passionate about arguing about something where ur obviously wrong. anyone with common sense would know that what i said is right, im not trying to convince STONERS THAT IM RIGHt, they already KNOW....im just trying to tell ppl to carefully decide b4 they want to abuse weed or smoke daily for a long time, b/c it is addicting, and its not GOOD (It may not be that bad compared to other drugs but its definitly bad) for you. I want them to know that there are withdrawal symptoms and ....CASE CLOSED.
    IM DONE ARGUING WITH YOU. NONE OF WHAT U SAID CHANGED MY VIEWS AT ALL OR PROVED ME WRONG, its just like ur trying to make urself feel better about Smoking weed, if ur going to do it at least KNOW whats going on in ur body/ brain, and admit that, thats whats going on. i believe thats better than to live in denial.

    Your absoulutly WRONG, and you dont know what your talking about, and ur last BREAKDOWN to my thread was completely irrelevent to the points i made.
    all u focus on is disproving me, u argue for the sake of arguing! damnnn...
    what i said was correct, u tell me weed is different to every individual, and then you go making GENERALIZATIONS that "apply" to all weed smokers. your a hypocrite....plus when i said ...."weed is the same for everyone (same chemical reactions)" i ment the same things happens to everyone chemically. you illiterate fuck. I didnt say every person gets HIGH the same way, like the react to the high the same way.


    REREAD my post..the last one u just brokedown, i dont think u get it. Think about what it SAYS and stop trying to argue...

    you never said it makes ppl smarter u just said it makes ppl use their mind in a better way...lol hmm interesting. When someone uses their mind in a better way, than they are smarter? are they not?

    you were saying that weed IS all good, indirectly. You basically said smoking for years and then quitting isnt hard at all, you said the high life is wayy better than the sober life, you said it was very easy to quit, and the withdrawal symptoms, if they're any at all are minimal. You said it can make ppl think better. You basically tried prove me wrong, everytime i said weed was bad for one reason or another, when really i never MADE anything up...and i UNDERSTAND that EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, but marijuana gets ppl high the SAME way (same chemical reactions)....you saying you just feel BETTER when ur stoned, Proves my point, its stoners mentality lol..."nothing is as good" if u dont smoke weed, that how u think.......dont tell me im wrong, b/c thats what u basically where sayin in most of your posts. when u smoke life seems better, when u dont smoke life seems more boring than it did b4 u smoked. when you get high repetitively for a long ass time and then quit, these effects are maximized, and thats when the withdrawal symptoms come into play. To MANY and MANY and MANY of daily smokers...Weed doesnt make everything better, it just makes everything "Normal" to them, since thats the new reality that the smoker has created when they smoke every single day. At first it DID just make everything "better" in a sence that they just enjoyed themselfs a lot more than they normally would, and they were simply HIGH. However, once the body is USED to constantly getting high, than everything is boring and not good in the sober life, to a stoner; and then when that addicted daily smoker Smokes in that type of setting where everything becomes boring due to not getting high, they just FEEL normal again when they smoke again, they dont feel GOOD, but they feel better...( they dont feel as good as they would if they werent addicted.) and thats what keeps the stoners going once they are very addicted, sober life is not fun, is not exciting, it is just Tolerable, and then the high life just keeps them feeling normal, it keeps the stoners in the state of mind in which they are used to being in.


    Again im not MAKING THIS UP, its just common sense.
    I know that everyone reacts differently to different shit, but what i mentioned above is true for all pot smokers for the most part. of course theres always a wonder child that reacts completely different than most ppl. Statisticly this can apply to the majority of pot smokers. its just common sense...u do something u really enjoy (its a drug, which means there is a chemical reaction), ur body/ mind gets used to the high, u enjoy it so much that normal life seems less appealing, and b4 u know it ur addicted, and normal life is just DULL and uninteresting, so potheads just keep smoking to keep life upto their new expectations, HENCE THE WORD ADDICTION. b/c b4 potheads started smoking pot, NORMAL life was satisfyingly interesting, and exciting and fun, but now that sober life isnt that way without weed, than u keep smoking weed...

    trying to disprove this is just trying to go AGAINST ALL ODDS again lol...
     
  2. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    This is the shit that pisses me off the most. You don't know shit about me, but you say weed is what keeps me going? That MAY have been the case for you when you were smoking, but it in no way applies to me. I keep myself going, with or without weed, so lick a dick.

    I'm not trying to convince myself of anything. I KNOW what is best for me. And living in denial, if that is what I am in fact doing, is better than being someone who talks down on other people for doing what they love to do, and you ARE talking down on me......calling me a burnout and shit, as if you know anything about me. I know weed TEMPORARILY alters brain chemistry, which is why I smoke, foo.

    I'm not absolutely wrong, and neither are you. You know what's best for you and I know what's best for me, and that's as far as it goes, but you're talking as if everyone will experience the same shit you experienced; that's bullshit.

    I am not simply trying to disprove you. I am trying to tell you that you don't know how everyone else will react to smoking everyday, and you come on here talking about "Oh, if you smoke weed everyday for 6 months it will burn you out". And you know that's what you were saying from the beginning, though you have changed it up a little bit throughout the thread. Weed does affect everyone differently, even in the chemical sense. We all have different chemical reactions going on in our brain, without the weed; the chemicals that are in my brain, naturally, are in different quantities and different levels than those in your brain, naturally, so weed is gonna interact with our natural chemical make-up in a way that is case-sensitive. What I'm talking about is, all of our brains funtion differently than eachothers' because we all have different levels of chemicals in each of our brains, so weed affects us all differently in the chemical sense, as well as how it makes us act when we get high.

    No. What it means is it may or may not improve an individual's concentration and it may or may not improve an individual's thought processes and help their thoughts flow more smoothly. It helps ME concentrate and it helps ME think more smoothly and clearly. It doesn't mean I'm smarter; It just means I'm using my mind in a more constructive way. It's not that hard to understand.

    You're not wrong, completely. You are right, where YOU are concerned and you know what's best for YOU, but you make it sound like all that shit you experienced is universal, and it's NOT.

    How many times do I have to explain this shit? I NEVER said you made anything up. I said you were right, in YOUR case. I said you don't know how everyone else's brain/body chemistry reacts to marijuana. I said you don't know why I smoke. I said I enjoy life without weed, but I prefer it with weed. I NEVER said life is dull and uninteresting when I'm sober. I NEVER said life seemed normal before I started smoking weed. YOU DON'T KNOW WHY OTHER PEOPLE SMOKE AND HOW IT MAKES US FEEL AND YOU DON"T KNOW HOW WE FEEL WHEN WE'RE SOBER. Simple.

    I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm just telling you that we all react differently. You SAY you know this, but the other shit you type after you say it suggests that you don't know anything about the fact that we are all individuals and we each have different brain chemistries than eachother, with or without weed. Your experiences with "withdrawal" do not correlate with other peoples' experiences with quitting smoking weed. That is all.
     
  3. hebrewnational00

    hebrewnational00 Senior Member

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    again let me remind u that im not BASHING weed, im not saying its terrible, and it cant be use responsibly. b/c it CAN, and it can be very enjoyable, but like i said there also can be a bad side, which people dont think of often...

    Also, some of what i said in my last post wasnt directly aimed at u topNotch....some was, but like the explanation of how ppl often find sober life less interesting and dull after smoking weed, wasnt talking about you specifically, it was talkin about most smokers, and i still stand by that btw.

    and the way u broke stuff down the second time, was better: like u said, the shit that applies to you does not apply to the majority of the ppl. and i agreed with u, i never doubted that u can handle urself on large amounts of weed, repeptitively for a long time...b/c u were depressed b4 u started smoking... however, what i said does apply to the majority of people in a healthy mental state, and its only natural...its not like extreme or wild that what i said happens u kno? its very common, and its a lot more common than uncommon, therefor, i still disagree with you. No hard feelings man, nothings personal. but good arguement, and thanks for the time u put into standin up for what u believe in; thats wat keeps the thread interesting and alive.
     
  4. i_was_in_shroom_land

    i_was_in_shroom_land Shroomier than you!

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    insane in the membraaaaaneee
     
  5. BigGirlGuy

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    All this is true and correct I wish I made the same discovery as you at your age and not 20 yrs later. Daily pot smoking is not good in my opinion.
     
  6. WanderingSoul

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    I don't get it. What's so bad about enjoying smoking weed a lot?
    I'm currently on a break (until 4/20) and I feel great. I like being sober sometimes, and I like being high.
    Weed affects different personalities differently. It's up to the user to be responsible about it, just as they must be about every other facet of life.
     
  7. WanderingSoul

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    The changes you (hebrew national) mentioned in your first post are a good thing. Marijuana and other drugs DO change your mind.
    That's how we became hippies in the first place! Duh.
    There's nothing wrong with having a liberated mind.
     
  8. hebrewnational00

    hebrewnational00 Senior Member

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    your right homie! there is nothig wrong with having a liberated mind, and i see nothing wrong with smoking weed every once in a long ass time to have a good time, and just to u kno, get high lol...but using it frequently REALLY isnt good. trust me.
    when i was a stoner, i got everything done, i got good grades, and everything...its not impossible to function as a stoner, but weed is just the only thing that kept me motivated at the time lol, its like ill do my homework so then i could smoke a blunt, ill go to class and take notes and when i get back ill smoke a blunt lol, u catch my drift?

    its just not something u should get in the habit of doing frequently in my opinion...iin my own experience there it has more negitive side effects then there is positive, and its just not worth it. thats just me though. when i was stoner i failed to see this lol, i admit i was in denial, i was like Im not addicted...i can quit w/e i want... i dont NEED weed but the truth was the exact opposite...i couldnt fall asleep satisfied with my day if i didnt get high at least oncce through the day.... and needless to say smoking daily burnt me out, and changed me, but im good now:) im glad not a stoner anymore.
     
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    well i havn't smoked for 4 days know after smoking multiple times a day for months and i feel fuckn' weird. I feel like I'm on high caffene doses all the time, even when i'm tired. life my body just feels all shaky and anxious...i mean its not like crazy overwhelming or anything but definitley there....going to sleep has been pretty hard each night too.
     
  10. WanderingSoul

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    That's great for you, but not everyone reacts that way.
     
  11. WanderingSoul

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    my above post was directed at hebrewnational ^
     
  12. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Thank you. All I was asking is that you saw it from my point of view and it seemed that you were being closed-minded, but maybe you thought I was being closed-minded too. But I see where you're coming from, and I hope you see where I'm coming from. I just didn't want you to think that weed brings everyone down, because it doesn't, regardless of how often you smoke and for how long. It is, in fact, case sensitive and it's not good for some people to smoke as much as some others do, which we both agreed on. I would like you to know though, that I am not burnt out and it offended me when you implied that I am, but I know we both got caught up and maybe let our emotions get the best of us and we both said some fukt up shit. I never meant to offend you and I don't think you intended to offend me.

    And yeah.....no hard feelings at all. Peace, knukka[​IMG]
     
  13. hebrewnational00

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    nothing is bad about enjoying it lol, its fun...its normal to enjoy gettin high lol...but gettin high changes ur body chemistry...changes ur perception and it is simply bad for your brain. Doing once in a while is bad as well, but its not nearly is bad as other things, u kno? not considerably bad....but once u smoke daily for a long time thats when those bad effects are magnified, and trust me, despite of what some ppl one here might say, its NOT FUN, its NOT easy to quit, and It IS addicting. Your right it does effect different people, differently....but one thing IS SURE, everyone (most people) that smoke daily or several times a day for a year or more, and then quit, arent going to feel as if they never smoked lol. they are obviosly going to go through withdrawal symptoms b/c of the new STONED reality that ur body is used to..u know what i mean? these withdrawal symptoms are different for everybody, but its just NOT FUN lol, its can be depression, anxiety, nerviousness, lack of sleep, lack of apetite, etc...AND LIKE I SAID ITS DIFFFERENT FOR EVERYONE.

    SMoking weed a lot is bad b/c: ur smoking..lol smoking isnt exactly good, ur fuckin up ur brain (little by little, but it adds up), its addicting, and ur going to need to smoke more as ur tolarence goes up; moreover, your not going to get as high, it takes over some peoples lives, like you wont enjoy things u used to enjoy, you wont be as interested in the sober life, etc, its going to change ur personality, and read my posts on this thread ull see more reasons.


    there is a good side to weed as well; im not denying it lol... but the bad outweighs the good in my opinion, in the short run, and more so in the long run as well.
     
  14. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    On the other side, we have to decide if the negative outweighs the positive for ourselves. If it does, stop smoking, but if the positive outweighs the negative, then smoke on:spliff:
     
  15. WanderingSoul

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    It doesn't fuck up your brain. That's just what you think. And please stop using YOU in all your sentences (it was a rhetorical question anyway; you act as if I don't know anything about weed). You're really talking about yourself when you say that, and I wish you would stop using these terms as if you know me and how pot affects me.
    We obviously have different opinions but whatever.
     
  16. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    That's what I was trying to tell him the whole time, and I THINK he understands that now and is just doing it out of habit.....I hope.
     
  17. hebrewnational00

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    hey like i said b4; when i say "you" i dont mean "you" sepcifically lol, i mean ppl in general. you know when ppl explain something there like "you go here, and the you wanna do this, and do that...,etc" thats the kind of "you" im using hahah...

    its outta habit. your right. sorry for the misunderstanding.

    You= people in general, not YOU specifically Top Notch, or the other girl that got mad b/c she thought i was talking about her specifically.
    I dont know how weed affects people specifically lol, it would b ratarded on my part to make assumption that your going throuh this or that...u kno?
    what i was trying to exaplain is the negitive effects/ withdrawal symptoms that I and many of the poeple i know experienced...i didnt know that girls question was a rhetorical question, and i tried to answer it to the best of my ability lol, my bad if u were offended.

    P.S. (to the girl that was offended by me using "you")
    I disagree, and I personally Believe it does fuck up your brain, after all. in the short run and the long run, but like i said b4, doing it once in a long time wont really mess a smoker up noticeably, its little by little, and it addds up. so what im trying to say is repetitive use, and long term daily smoking is BAD, and it does fuck up your brain. (this is my opinion, and im talking from my and the people that i know's experience).

    i apologize if u took that personal.
    PEace
     
  18. WanderingSoul

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    Quit calling me "that girl that got offended" yeesh. I have a user name. :)
     
  19. Xzei

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    ^^ in his defense
    if im typing a post im usually to lazy to look for someones user name :p
     
  20. ~maryjane~

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    I know, but my last post wasn't very high up at all.
    I don't like being thought of as "the girl that got offended" lol. :)
     
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