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Dude shrooms will get you into just as much trouble trip-wise as lsd will. It just doesn't last as long. I'd say that in a lot of ways, shrooms were my beast to tangle with - lsd seemed a lot more controllable at least for me. Shrooms have tended to produce a much more intense feeling of confusion, lsd was more about patterns and such.

Why are you so against Hofmann rasu? You think that just because he's an organic chemist by training he can't know anything about tripping, even though he's tripped before and was the first person to talk about how it should be used for it's mind-altering properties? Sure there are people who have taken more than he has, but more taken doesn't necessarily equate to more knowledge of.

 

haha I realized I prefer shrooms this weekend Neuronaut. I feel peppy on them and wont stop dancing around. I feel good. Try this. Eat alot just before. Eat the shrooms . Wait 2 hours, a threshhold effects (depends on dose) will be there but seem not to go up at all. Then you take few hits of weed in a bong or whatever suits you. Bam, you will reach peak in like 15-20 minutes, its awesome I tell you. But you have to wait, its like creating a bomb in your stomach or something . I Haven't tried rmore than a average eight since a long time though.

LSD is my beast . Too easy to go overboard. Usually aorund here the dose is unequal on blotter and makes it easy to go way over expectation for someone who cares. Sometimes 1 hit = 2 even. Then evereything gets slimy and the cars come flowing down the streetl

 

sounds fucking awesome

 

yeah man lsd can get a lil crazier than shrooms for me..specially when this naked indian comes out with an ak47..in shrooms he still comes out...but we like hug and stuff lol

 

wtf lol

 

stop lieing

 

lawl

 

HEY MAN THE NAKED INDIAN DOSENT LIE!.....seriosly people this shit is freaking me out

 

this shit is ridiculous

 

yes it friggin is....half the people posting here are baked...and jamminbob ur friends simply dont like u man lol

 

Hoffman didn't create LSD, he discovered it by synthesising it, he didn't know he was gonna be tripping on his couch all day all of a sudden. LSD's been around since the dawn of time, just took a while for us to find it. As I understand it so far (sorry if I'm wrong) it's pretty much synthesised mescaline. After all, people have been tripping since we climbed down from the trees, there's nothing new about the amazing trips and the fear and the freaks and whatnot.

 

You think lsd is synth mescaline?

Well obviously it isnt...But I feel lsd is the best we can find to reach trips as good as with natural substances. LSD you make it to share, sell it , or experience it...But the naturallly occuring ones are shared with you from the universe

 

No i personaly just think hes afraid of the true potential of it.

 

No i personaly just think hes afraid of the true potential of it. Than again most people probably would be if they created a substance that had the power to change life as we know it.

 

But LSD isn't man-made, it was always there, but some Swiss dude just happened to 'find' it, no? So it's still very much part of the universe.

 

eh? it doesn't really occur naturally anywhere on earth. i mean look at how hard it is to find. it takes a great deal of work to synthesize. thats like saying xanax was always there, we just discovered it.

 

topknotchstoner's got xanax crops everywhere in his backyard

 

LSD is a derivative of naturally occuring plant mold (among several other things, I remember Hofmann saying that over the course of his experiments they used several different starting materials). So yes, in a way it's naturally occuring, but not EXACTLY. There are other chemicals similar to it that are part of the rye mold ergot, for example, which may have contributed to some of the witch hysteria and other events in Europe in the "olden days", but you could be reasonably certain that it's not the exact chemical structure of LSD.

Synthetic mescaline exists, and the costs of making it (in terms of how expensive it is to make to how little product you get) are even more prohibitive than LSD manufacture. It is certainly NOT LSD.

Hofmann wasn't/isn't afraid of the true potential of it, it's that he recognizes the fact that it's an extremely powerful drug, and is probably somewhat embarrased that his wonder drug was misused and then demonized. That's why the title of his book about it is called "My Problem Child." He viewed it purely as a medicament, something to be used with a psychiatrist, someone who could seriously actually help you and was trained to do so.

 

lsd isnt for anything, its an "unspoken thing" to quote page browning. what happens, what its for, why its here, is all part of an unspoken thing that is beyond words. to label it would only be to limit it, and i strongly disagree with you meditative types all about sitting in a room with a blindfold on pondering your own life. not to preach, but take acid then g out and HAVE A LIFE. experience reality, live for the moment, and you'll realize that there is absolutely no need for all this fuckin tight ass shit about a god damn chemical that gets the juices flowin in your brain. its a wonderful thing, far exceeds mushrooms in my opinion, they get too depressing. acid gets wild and its a good fuckin time, and you can even, beleive it or not, llleEEARrrnnnNn while your having ffFFfffuuUnnnnnnn. who the fuck cares what albert hofman thought of it, great ideas, but he's not the leading figure on how to understand what the fuck happens when you injest it. that shits not real anymore, now is the only reality nothing lasts forget the past

 

What's wrong with takin a dose or five and meditating? Yeah it might be more fun to go outside and do something, but who the hell are you to tell someone how to trip? Everyone experiences a trip differently.

Mushrooms are just as powerful a drug, you just have to take more of them to equal the power of an LSD trip. If you think they get depressing I suggest trying them in a different setting, only times I found shrooms to be depressing was when I tripped alone.