my dad

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by yyyesiam2, May 16, 2004.

  1. yyyesiam2

    yyyesiam2 Senior Member

    i meant to post this here, but put it in the psychadelics forum. i'm kinda drunk.
    i don't know where else to turn right now. i feel like letting myself crumble and deteriate along with the universe and existance itself.

    from: my father
    been feeling really suicidal. cant think of any good
    reasons to stay around any more. i have outlived my
    usefulness to the world, and dont really know if i
    was of any use at all. the entropy keeps increasing
    in the world, the universe, and in my life. so i am
    asking you what good reason is there to stay around
    in this world?
    reply 1:
    i can't claim to know what you are going through, but i have felt the
    same exact way hundreds of times. every time that i get close to just
    ending it all, i consider the alternative and the possibilities of what
    could happen if i just stuck around till my time was up. right now is
    probably not a time to be fake about anything. you have made alot of
    mistakes in your life. those were your decisions, and you can't take
    them back now. the fact that you are still around gives you the chance
    to make amends-whatever way you are capable of accomplishing that task.
    you have let yourself fall into a very deep rut; so deep, that it is
    impossible for you to see the light of the outside world. that doesn't
    mean it isn't there. if you are willing to put forth the effort it
    takes to accept your mistakes and to genuinely express your love and
    guilt over your past, i guaruntee u that u will see things in a new
    light. all i have been waiting for from you is exactly that. i want for
    our relationship to be closer than it ever was. i want to hug you, and
    feel you hug back-without any stiffness that suggests a certain
    guardedness againgst your own son. i love you so much, and i'm tired of
    past events making it hard for me to tell you that. so fuck it. i don't
    care anymore.i love you. i want you to feel like you can show your true
    self-no matter how dark or different it may be. i want to be close to
    my father. i want to understand you. i don't want you to think that
    noone in the world understands you. i don't want to think that noone in
    the world understands me. for some reason, we seem to be similar
    entities. maybe there is such thing as reincarnation, and we were meant
    to be in contact. it just sucks that we let our intense similarities
    drive us apart so much. if you want a reason to live, other than the
    millions you could think of if you could just get yourself out of this
    hole of repetitive thought that you've trapped yourself in, then let it
    be me. if you leave me without ever having let me know who you are, i
    will forever be haunted by that. if you must go, then at least get to
    know your own seed first. that means me, cedar, and franz. tell us you
    are sorry. tell us you love us-especially cedar. i don't think he's
    heard it enough from you. leave with us a memory of your
    heart-something you have rarely-if ever-shown us. i have one memory of
    you that i will always cherish. that is the memory of me and franz
    sitting on your lap while you read to us some story about soup or
    something. i don't remember the story very well-except for the ending
    where it all get's silly-but i remember the feeling of love and
    security i felt sitting on your lap. that will never leave me. please
    leave me with more of those memories. i don't know what else to tell
    you except that life is a very complicated game. you've been breaking
    the rules for quite some time, but it's never too late to fix things. i
    love you.
    Quinn
    reply:2-20 minutes later.
    to reply to another thing you said: you said you didn't know if you had
    served any purpose in the world. i don't know about how you have
    affected others, but i know what you have taught me. you taught me that
    everything is not what it seems most of the time. you taught me not to
    trust every idea or institution that comes along that doesn't make
    logical sense to me. you taught me from an early age to shield myself
    from gov. propaganda-something that most parents have obviously not
    taught their children. you taught me the importance of what i put into
    my body. you taught me the importance of feeding my intellect. you
    taught me how to learn. most importantly, you taught me how to survive.
    considering the effect you've had on me, i know you must have affected
    other people's lives in your past. i also know that there is an
    intelligent soul trapped under all of the stress, repression of
    emotion, and pain that you have endured in your life. a major part of
    your journey is healing, especially now. now is the time to cry,
    dad-even if it doesn't feel possible. howl at the moon.tell the world
    of your pain. only then will your body and mind begin to heal
    themselves. i have said all that i can. the rest is up to you.
     
  2. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

    Sounds like your family needs a bit of councelling to work out these issues.
     
  3. know1nozme

    know1nozme High Plains Drifter

    What are you looking for by posting this? I'm not criticizing, but I don't know if you want criticizm, advice or sympathy or what? I'm not a trained counselor nor a psychologist. I'd like to help, but I'm not certain what good my help would be. I can philosophize - give you history and logic and back it up with science in a format designed to answer the questions you have, but my answers would be generalized.

    Who is it that needs uplift, you or your dad? Both? Are you looking for it here, on the forums? Why? Are you looking for it at all? What do you need?

    There is a sense of urgency to what you have written but I don't know when this was originally written.
     
  4. gdkumar

    gdkumar Member

    Dear yyyesiam2,

    Please calm down dear. We all love you.
    Can assure you, your dad loves all of you more than any body else.
    We all make mistakes in life, some of us are in your dad's position and some are in your position. We all make mistakes, we come to a grief for that and then we want to atone for that. There lies the biggest problem of how to go about it.
    You are so much full of love for your papa, just please for once shake off all your hesitations,shyness and fear of the repercussions and straightaway go and hug him. I am sure you wont be able to talk and say "dad, I love you" but that hug will do everything for you. You had parted with tears and now tears will 'weld' all of you together.

    Please try this or do something else, it is never too late.

    With lots of love, good wishes and prayers...........Kumar.
     
  5. yyyesiam2

    yyyesiam2 Senior Member

    i apologise for this embarrassing post. i received that email last night, after not having spoken to my dad for quite some time. i freaked out, got drunk, and for some reason thought it would help to post here. why i thought that, i don't remember. i'm just glad i didn't call anyone. i got an email back from him today, saying that that he'd stick around for the time being, but he didn't make any permanent promises. i guess i might have thought there was a chance of there actually being some psychiatrists or similar on this website, considering some of the intelligent posts i have seen here in the past. i realize now that this is something i must deal with on my own, and i apologize again for bringin' everyone down.
     
  6. yyyesiam2

    yyyesiam2 Senior Member

    oh, and thanks kumar.
     

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