Discussion in 'Parenting' started by environmental_junkie, Jan 7, 2005.

  1. environmental_junkie

    environmental_junkie Member

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    Alright I'm just curious about what you think about your childrens music preference...

    Even if you don't have children of your own try and think how you would react if your children decided to listen to, rap, or hip hop or R&B whatever you may call it... but would you just look the other way because music after all is a personal preference or would you insist for them not to listen to it, atleast in your house?

    Personally I know I wouldn't condone this type of music to be brainwashing my children... but I also wouldn't try to take away their "individuality',but I don't really see how music all about tits and ass, and violence could be anything but comforming.....I would definitely try to persude them to see the real meaning behind all types of music....
  2. sugrmag

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    Well, my children are 6 and 2, so they listen to our music and love it (for now!!) My hubby (who works evenings) is off on tues. and weds., so those two evenings, the four of us party in the kitchen. Tim and I cook, while we all dance around. It's great. But, to answer your question, once the girls get old enough to have their own musical preferences, I won't dictate what they listen to. If it is something I may have trouble liking, I will request that it be kept at a nice and quiet level (not blaring throughout the house).
  3. environmental_junkie

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    What I ment in my previous statement is, (and I will try and make it more clear) that I would be deplored by the thought of my children wasting their innocence by listening to such music...

    I find most,(I can not say all because some of this music does have some decent lyrics and statements) of these types of music to be rather degrating and these songs seem to put a number people in a frame of mind which I personally do not enjoy to be around.

    I did not say that I would condemn my children if they listen to music which I do not approve of, but I'm hopeful that they would be more diverse and listen to and appreciate more than one genre of music.

    I hope you can understand my opinion a bit more clearly now, and try to read more between the lines next time you think of being rather harsh! :$
  4. BraveSirRubin

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    Hey...I grew up on the Beatles, and turned out to be a wonderful person :)

    Children should listen to a music that portrayes a paeceful positive message. As simple as that... do not let them watch crap like MTV which will rot thier brains with commercialism and violence.
  5. BraveSirRubin

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    Ofcourse it's censorship... censoring things that will make your kids worse people in society is your duty as a parent. You won't let your kid watch a scary movie if you know that it will have psychological affects on him, and so on...

    Ofcourse, eventually, the kids will start developing thier own tastes in music...but I hope that until then i'd be able to influence thier tastes enough... I want them to grow up on good music...when they reach shall be thier choice.
  6. environmental_junkie

    environmental_junkie Member

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    See there you go twisting my words around once more and I don't appreciate that! I said that I do hope that my children will appreciate more genres' of music and not limit themselves off. I said the exact oposite as what you portray!
  7. Brighid

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    YOu mean music like this?
    Album: Greatest HitsSong: Keep Ya Head Up
    Some say the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice
    I say the darker the flesh then the deeper the roots
    I give a holler to my sisters on welfare
    Tupac cares and don't nobody else care
    I know they like to beat ya down a lot
    When you come around the block brothas clown a lot
    But please don't cry, dry your eyes, never let up
    Forgive but don't forget keep your head up
    And when he tells you you ain't nothin don't believe him
    And if he can't learn to love you you should leave him
    Cuz sista you don't need him
    And I ain't tryin to gash up,
    I just call em how I see em
    You know it makes me unhappy
    When brothas make babies and leave a young mother to be a pappy
    And since we all came from a woman
    Got our name from a woman and our game from a woman
    I wonder why we take from our women
    Why we rape our women, do we hate our women?
    I think it's time to kill for our women
    Time to heal our women, be real to our women
    And if we don't then we'll have a race of babies
    That hate the ladies that make the babies
    And since a man can't make one
    So would the real men get up
    I know your fed up ladies, but keep your head up

    Tupac Shakur
  8. Brighid

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    They don't knooow, who we beee
    They don't knooow, who we beee

    [DMX over Chorus]
    That's how many that don't know, they knew I could do it!
    This goes out to my nigga Q - rest in peace baby
    They still ain't ready...

    What they don't know is!
    The bullshit, the drama (uhh), the guns, the armour (what?)
    The city, the farmer, the babies, the mama (what?!)
    The projects, the drugs (uhh!), the children, the thugs
    (uhh!) The tears, the hugs, the love, the slugs (c'mon!)
    The funerals, the wakes, the churches, the coffins (uhh!)
    The heartbroken mothers, it happens, too often (why?!)
    The problems, the things, we use, to solve 'em (what?!)
    Yonkers, the Bronx (uhh!), Brooklyn, Harlem (c'mon!)
    The hurt, the pain, the dirt, the rain (uhh!)
    The jerk, the fame, the work, the game (uhh!)
    The friends, the foes, the Benz, the hoes (what?!)
    The studios, the shows, comes, and it goes (c'mon!)
    The jealousy, the envy, the phony, the friendly (uh-huh!)
    The one that gave 'em the slugs, the one that put 'em in me
    (whoo!) The snakes, the grass, too long, to see (uhh, uhh!)
    The lawnmower, sittin, right next, to the tree (c'mon!)

    [Chorus 2X]

    What we seeing is!
    The streets, the cops, the system, harrassment (uh-huh)
    The options, get shot, go to jail, or getcha ass kicked
    (aight) The lawyers, the part, they are, of the puzzle (uh-huh)
    The release, the warning, "Try not, to get in trouble" (damn!)
    The snitches, the odds (uhh), probation, parole (what?!)
    The new charge, the bail, the warrant, the hole (damn!)
    The cell, the bus, the ride, up North (uh-huh)
    The greens, the boots, the yard, these hearts (uhh!)
    The fightin, the stabbin, the pullin, the grabbin (what?!)
    The riot squad with the captain, nobody knows what happened
    (what?!) The two years in a box, revenge, the plots (uhh!)
    The twenty-three hours that's locked, the one hour that's not
    (uhh!) The silence, the dark, the mind, so fragile (aight!)
    The wish, that the streets, would have took you, when they had you
    (damn) The days, the months, the years, dispair
    One night on my knees, here it comes, the prayer

    [Chorus 2X]

    This here is all about!
    My wife, my kids (uh-huh), the life that I live (uh-huh)
    Through the night, I was his (uh-huh), it was right, but I did
    (uh-huh) My ups, and downs (uhh), my slips, my falls (uhh)
    My trials and tribulations (uhh), my heart, my balls (uhh)
    My mother, my father, I love 'em, I hate 'em (uhh!)
    Wish God, I didn't have 'em, but I'm glad that he made 'em
    (uhh!) The roaches, the rats, the strays, the cats (what, what?!)
    The guns, knives and bats, everytime we scrap
    The hustlin, the dealin, the robbin, the stealin (uhh!)
    The shit, hit the ceilin, little boy, with no feelin's
    (damn) The frustration, rage, trapped inside a cage
    Got beatin's 'til the age, I carried a twelve gauge
    (aight!) Somebody stop me (please!), somebody come and get me
    (what?!) Little did I know, that the Lord was ridin with me
    The dark, the light (uhh), my heart (uhh), the fight (uhh)
    The wrong (uhh!), the right (uhh!), it's gone (uhh!), aight?

  9. Brighid

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    Hip hop has a lot of stupid music, just like there is a lot of stupid music in every genre.

    But there are also a lot of artists, who after making a name for themselves with trash, become extremely conscious and make powerful, raw protest music.

    I listen to hip hop, my kids listen to hip hop. We also listen to reggae, folk, jazz, and classical. Really, the only 2 forms of musical "expression":confused: I can't stand are techno and heavy metal. Gets on my nerves and gives me a migraine. But I would never tell my kids they can't listen to it (just with the headphones, please!) but thank G-d they don't like it either!

    I think people find hip hop so offensive is partly because they can't stand the basic truth in the message; life in the ghetto sucks, it's hard as hell, and you do what you can to survive.

    Changes Lyrics

    Come on come on
    I see no changes wake up in the morning and I ask myself
    is life worth living should I blast myself?
    I'm tired of bein' poor & even worse I'm black
    my stomach hurts so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch
    Cops give a damn about a negro
    pull the trigger kill a nigga he's a hero
    Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares
    one less hungry mouth on the welfare
    First ship 'em dope & let 'em deal the brothers
    give 'em guns step back watch 'em kill each other
    It's time to fight back that's what Huey said
    2 shots in the dark now Huey's dead
    I got love for my brother but we can never go nowhere
    unless we share with each other
    We gotta start makin' changes
    learn to see me as a brother instead of 2 distant strangers
    and that's how it's supposed to be
    How can the Devil take a brother if he's close to me?
    I'd love to go back to when we played as kids
    but things changed, and that's the way it is

    [Bridge w/ changing ad libs]
    Come on come on
    That's just the way it is
    Things'll never be the same
    That's just the way it is
    aww yeah

    I see no changes all I see is racist faces
    misplaced hate makes disgrace to races
    We under, I wonder what it takes to make this
    one better place, let's erase the wasted
    Take the evil out the people they'll be acting right
    'cause both black and white is smokin' crack tonight
    and only time we chill is when we kill each other
    it takes skill to be real, time to heal each other
    And although it seems heaven sent
    We ain't ready, to see a black President, uhh
    It ain't a secret don't conceal the fact
    the penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks
    But some things will never change
    try to show another way but you stayin' in the dope game
    Now tell me what's a mother to do
    bein' real don't appeal to the brother in you
    You gotta operate the easy way
    "I made a G today"
    But you made it in a sleazy way
    sellin' crack to the kid.
    " I gotta get paid,"
    Well hey, well that's the way it is


    We gotta make a change...
    It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
    Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
    and let's change the way we treat each other.
    You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
    what we gotta do, to survive.

    And still I see no changes can't a brother get a little peace
    It's war on the streets & the war in the Middle East
    Instead of war on poverty they got a war on drugs
    so the police can bother me
    And I ain't never did a crime I ain't have to do
    But now I'm back with the blacks givin' it back to you
    Don't let 'em jack you up, back you up,
    crack you up and pimp slap you up
    You gotta learn to hold ya own
    they get jealous when they see ya with ya mobile phone
    But tell the cops they can't touch this
    I don't trust this when they try to rush I bust this
    That's the sound of my tool you say it ain't cool
    my mama didn't raise no fool
    And as long as I stay black I gotta stay strapped
    & I never get to lay back
    'Cause I always got to worry 'bout the pay backs
    some buck that I roughed up way back
    comin' back after all these years
    rat-tat-tat-tat-tat that's the way it is uhh

  10. LittleRedOne

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    I've grown up on Jethro Tull, ragga, Kirsty MacColl, Status Quo, Guns n Roses.. Loadsa different stuff, but now I'm older and have my own room and stereo I tend to listen to Hendrix, Aerosmith, Alien Ant Farm, well basically anything rocky but not depressing, I also looove reggae and the carribean sound. I'm not so into rap and that, its just not really my type of stuff - some is quite cool though. My parents are totally cool with what I listen to, as long as I dont have it too loud, although when I do listen to rap my mum's always calling "turn that [fill in random obscenity] down!!!"! I also got a lecture about "Just because you've started listening to Jimi Hendrix it doesnt mean you can start taking drugs".... *excuse me whaaaatttttttt????*
  11. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Lifetime Supporter

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    I am able to use economic methods right now: I buy the presents and my son (13) got a CD of a group he liked and I was clueless on.
    He also likes Ozzy, So I bought him "Paranoid."
    he did get some gelt and he did use it for more evenesence.
    He also likes a lot of what I do...some he looks at me as if I've lost my mind...
    Now, he isn't "into" hip hop, but chances are the day will come, so I'll snag some Franti for him.
    lucky for me the hip hop and jam cultures share a wall in the house of gods and goddesses so there is a range that won't drive me bats.
    if it does, breakout the headphones boy, but deal with mama speaking truth to power on the trash that could be there.
    He really likes getting me engaged withhis music, and hearing my pov on the style, content and public perception.
    I'm glad to do it because I'll know more about what he hears without turning into those weird moms who got into boy bands to connect with their kids.
    I can stay the critic, without being opposition.
  12. Sage-Phoenix

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    LOL about the boy bands. It just backfires anyway. My Mum loves Westlife, whre as my brother and I can just about tolerate it.

    Obviously don't have kids, got a brother though. The music he likes bizzare, seriously do you know any 15 year olds who obesses over Duran Duran and know all the words to 'Foot loose'?
    It's harmless enough, just not my thing. He thinks the same about my music too (Beatles, Guns n roses, random country stuff etc). We sort of drown each other out. Some how it works.

    My parents are cool with everything, we know each others prefferences and aviod inflicting them (at too great a volume) on each other. They always bitch about music programs, I refuse to watch them.

    Guess with my future children I'd let them listen to whatever they enjoyed. If something was truly offensive, then I'd explain my reason for objecting.
    Anything that just wasn't to my taste (there's bound to be music they won't like that I do) we just have to agree to play only through headphones.
  13. sweetersappe

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    My 6 year old daughter's current favorites are jazz, mostly Charlie Parker, and Jimmy Buffett. Not too bad, I think. She also has a good appreciation for Paul Simon, especially the Graceland album. What a girl!
  14. skye*

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    music, ohh how i love music!!

    Well we play a wide variety of music in my house! Everything from pop,classical(my daughter falls asleep to classical every night) nature, dance raver electronic, some spiritual like faith of the muse and dead can dance.old rock, alternative, folk, blues, ect.
    You name it i listen to it, and yes even marshall mathers. Wich my daughter loves to jump around too. Shes only 21 months old, and i played music for her and my son while i was prego. All of the music i could possibly think of, a diff cd every time,every day.
    I think its very important that we teach our kids the all the different types of music and let them decide what they like best, hell even if its ozzy or some r&b band. I could care less, as long as they experience it, wich in my house theres no way not too.
    I would never or could never tell my child what to listen too! And chances are it wont be anything i dont like becasue i like every type of music.
    So theres my 2 cents about this, we have to let our kids be who they are, not raise them to be closed minded individuals, or judge them because they like a certain type of music that you dont!

    merry blessings,
  15. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    Ill probably let him listen to what ever makes him feel waht he needs to what ever he likes. I know I blasted my parents out with some hardcore shit....
  16. mtnhighgirl

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    When my daughter was a toddler she loved Moonshadow by Cat Stevens. I mean she demanded to hear it over and over and over....She has always enjoyed the Beatles, the Doors, Bob Dylan, etc. but now her dad's influence is starting to show.;) Now she wants to listen to heavier music, like Metallica, Clutch, Live On Release and others. She'll be 9 years old in a month, so I am researching the lyrics and any songs that don't have swear words or exteme adult content will go onto a disc for her. This way she gets to listen to her choice of music, while I still protect her innocence. Seems like a good comprimise to me. We listen to all kinds of music, everything except country. Right now we are doing a study on the history of rock and roll, listening to tunes, watching concert footage, reading interviews. She's loving it! We're still in the 50's, I can hardly wait for the next two decades!
  17. sweetersappe

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    It's great that you are studying music from past decades. My daughter loves my 60's and 70's music, but she also loves disco. I am not crazy about it, but it's fun for her to check it out. I just hope she doesn't grow to love KC and the Sunshine Band more than James Taylor. :)
  18. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    At my house we listen to classical, classic rock, oldies ( bublegum rock), folk music, drums, guitar, colima, disco, regge, rap, r&b, underground hip hop, grunge rock, alternative music, and pop. So basicly everything. My son Loves music. His favorites are the star wars theme song and anything from the beatles yellow submarine music or movie...He likes hip hop and when were in the car he'll tell me to change the music if he wants something else to listen to.

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