MT-45 opinions?

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by AceK, Nov 27, 2013.

  1. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    Looking for opinions on the synthetic opioid MT-45. I was considering maybe ordering a little. Since it has a structure unrelated to anything commonly tested for in a drug test that would be a plus.
     
  2. ZenStateOfMind

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    Interesting. Opiate-RC's is something i have wanted to research for myself. If you end up ordering some please let me know what you think of the compound.
     
  3. hahaha04

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    I havent tried it. I have heard, if you have access to regular opiates, based on the high this chem is not worth it. But as you said it is not smiilar to anything that would be tested for as an opiate on a DT..... are there other opiod RCs out there? I feel like i have seen on some vendor sites some differrent ones...
     
  4. ZenStateOfMind

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    A few different RC Opiates
    AH-7921
    o desymetyltramadol
    Butyr-Fentanyl
    4-Fluoro-Butyr-Fentanyl (too dangerous).

    From what ive as hahaha04 said, "if you have access to regular opiates, based on the high this chem is not worth it." Most of the RC's arn't worth it for the price. But someones gotta explore these right?
     
  5. AceK

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    The only one I have access to is the MT-45. I have read opinioins that AH-7921 is better.

    I don't have a pill connect right now and havent done any opiates in quite some time so tolerance shouldn't be an issue. Most people on the net say that its incredibly painful to snort so that is not a good ROA, and that it doesn't work that well orally but of course there are other routes...that are more..direct.
     
  6. ZenStateOfMind

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    AceK I suggest you read up a tad more on these before jumping the gun. Not that I have any personal experience to share but from what ive read on these couple RC's you gotta be very careful.

    Both MT-45 and AH-7921 don't seem to have very pleasant effects. Check erowid and such. If your looking for something as a pill substitute your not going to be the happiest with these compounds. Both are incredibly painful to snort and extremely foul tasting. Not to mention the dose is very low with these 10mg -100mg. Not just that i havnt read any reports that talk about the positive effects weighing out the negative.
    Most people who have tried these RC's say to not even try any of them without a tolerance since the dosage is so low.
    The fentanyl analogues are much worse for people without tolerance. The 4-Fluoro-Butyr-Fentanyl dosage is in the ug range.

    If your talking about a direct route of administration being IV please be careful. Most people who have these RC's in there possession are waiting until they have been tested by others more before consuming especially if your looking to inject them.

    The safest and most positive of all these RC seems to be o-desymetyltramadol in low-medium dosages. Although the 4-Fluoro-Butyr-Fentanyl analogue gives an extremely heavy buzz but with the low dosages its quite un-safe.

    Not trying to be a buzzkill but i was looking for a substitute as well and this is the information i gathered. So in conclusion we should both leave the RC's be and find some Kratom. Probably cheaper too.
     
  7. eggsprog

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    Please don't inject untested research chemicals...
     
  8. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    Never said anything about injecting anything...just hinted at it ;)
     
  9. luciano

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    For those that have tried it would you say it like the methadone of opioids? In the sense that methadone doesnt have much to offer in the way of euphoria more like 90% sedation.
     
  10. AceK

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    I now have access to AH-7921 and MT-45 but am hesitant to try either as there hasn't been much "research" done on these. I did read something about a few people noticing some dissociative effects with MT-45 on too of the opioid effects, this sounds interesting to me but most reports say MT-45 is only "alright" and nothing special.
     
  11. china__white

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    Ive been curious for a while as well. Seems like they all will never be as good as some good down
     
  12. MagicSwhirlingShip

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    hell they need to be tested more send them my way
     
  13. AceK

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    I might just get down to ordering some one of these days. Thing is tho, I like my RCs to be really epic, and I would hate to have to endure all the anxiety of waitin on a chem and it turn out to be only mediocre. Next time I start thinking about ordering some kind of stimulant tho...one of the RC opiates is almost surely a wiser choice.
     

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