Moving out the way/giving people leeway

Discussion in 'Men's Issues' started by chris_1661, Mar 2, 2007.

  1. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Do you ever take the initiative and say hello first?
    It's a risk, but it has great pay off, and the failure is just some hurt pride. (and who's to say the other heard you at all?)
    Took me years to instigate conversation, and I'm still slow and quiet about it (obvioulsly not a problem when typing ;P ) but it gets... less scary. Less painful. Sometimes it is even easy.
     
  2. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    Chris, you have some severe social problems.

    I would suggest a nice blunt.

    None of that drinking a sip of whiskey shit, smoke a fat blunt and report back.
     
  3. chris_1661

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  4. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    Chris, not everybody accepts me either. Just get over it. Nobody is interested in a self-defeating whiner. How do you know nobody is interested? Have you actually tried talking to people? People probably already think you're a wierdo... You complain about having no friends and nobody likes you and you get upset when some chick steps outside of your little 'gender roles' that you have given her? Stop being a princess. Nobody's out to get you or steal your masculinity.

    I also have a hard time facing rejection. BUT that's a part of life homie. You can't get over that. You have to take the bad with the good.
     
  5. chris_1661

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  6. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    Chris, you make very broad generalizations. IF all women are uninterested in you and are trying to steal your masculinity and all the lads are 'tossers' or whatever that means, then who is there that is as perfect as you are? It seems that you are unequaled in intellect, masculinity, and intensity, as well as many other areas. I would give up on making friends. Nobody could measure up to you chris, and it would probably be awkward for them to be in your shadow all the time. They're all tossers and they all mess about.

    Seriously, though, I have talked to people and tried to make friends before and they didn't show much interest in me or what I had to say. I didn't give up on the entire human race because I was rejected a few times. I just went and found other people.

    You have made such generalized stereotypes of gender roles that you've become ensnared by them. You sound like you are living your life looking for approval. Trying to 'act touch' and not act like a tosser or whatever you do. Looking hard and not soft. Is this the way men are supposed to act? Are females supposed to be subordinate to males and not look them in the eye(fat girl)? Are they supposed to accept you as a man simply because you're of legal age? Should they all be pretty and interested in Chris simply because he exists? No, you have it all wrong Chris. People are people. Nobody is trying to get the best of you or make you look soft or cut your balls off. The more real-world experience you get, you'll realize that people are different. People are people. Be a person and not an image and maybe people will accept you for you.

    Chris, if you act like a child, people will percieve you as a child. I don't mean to be judgemental, so don't snap back at me. You sound very insecure about many aspects of your life. If you act like an adult, people will show you the respect an adult deserves.

    And if you take a polite gesture as good as saying 'hurry up and get out of the fucking way', then maybe you are having some real difficulty. I know it's been said a thousand times by everybody else, but if help is available, why not use it to your advantage? You would rather spout your problems off to strangers on the internet than a professional who can help you? I'm willing to bet that 99% of the posters here have no experience with asperger's, or any type of counseling for that matter. We aren't professionals, but from what you've told us, help is available to you. Maybe you will have to reach the depths of desparity before you accept a helping hand. That's what it takes for some people.
     
  7. drumminmama

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    but you expect them to do so. You are angry/ upset/ pissed that they don't greet you.

    people greet each other . it isn't weird, and what do you care if they do? isn't that THEIR problem, and not yours?
     
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  9. scratcho

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    At this point ,you couldn't drive a toothpick up his ass with a sledgehammer.The boy has a psychosis.He'll either get help or BLOW UP and hurt others.Let's hope he gets help.
     
  10. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    and try cannabis. I think a blunt will do the trick, Chris.
     
  11. Musikero

    Musikero Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't think cannabis will do the trick. May be it can help him relax, but he will still need professional help. Also, weed might make him even more paranoid. He already thinks people are out to get him. THe weed might make it worse.
     
  12. Alaskan

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    Since the subject of Asperger's Syndrome came up I've research everything I could fine. I quit working in the psychiatric field in 1988 and this wasn't recognized until DSM IV came out in 1994.
    It is called a syndrome rather that a disease because the brood scope of behaviors, social problems, learning disabilities and physical traits.
    Medication intervention has proved ineffective, as so with one on one psycho-therapy. The treatment now tends to be towards long term in-patient treatment and re-education.
    This not an attempt for the patient to understand their problems, but to change them in a very controlled environment.
    Physical assaults are very rare after the on set of adolescence, due to the lack of muscle tone , physical coordination and strength. These short-failings also add to the feeling of no self worth.
    Telling him to chill out and smoke a bowl is not going too help. " One shouldn't try too change their conscientious, if they don't understand the one they have".
    Don't bait him, don't play into what seems very strange to you, granted it is.
    Can you imagine, being in a strange land and not being able to learn the language or understand the customs, ever. This what he is going through every time he has to deal with the world.
    He is a very sick young man and what he needs, he will not find here.
    ...............................Dennis.......Alaskan.....
     
  13. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    You mean? Asperger's Syndrome? Fack man, I love the quality of your research. :rolleyes:
     
  14. lunarflowermaiden

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    Chris, maybe having someone to talk to would help you out a bit. PM me any time if you want to talk. I did not know that you had Asperger's Syndrome until now, but I do hope that you make the decision to see a therapist.
     
  15. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    of course cannabis won't help him. it's a joke.
     
  16. sexbanshee

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    I hold doors open for men......

    mainly so I can look at their butts as they walk through lol

    i notice in Ireland in the rural areas, men dont do this often, so I do it instead!!!
     
  17. Alaskan

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    Spooner Asperger's Yes Damn spell check switched it on me. Dennis
     
  18. Spiderweb Sitar

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    I hold doors open for people all the time. Men, women, old people, young people, parents, kids, business people, people off the street, anyone. I don't think that they're incapable of opening a door themselves, I just do it to be nice... a polite gesture. Those male/female gender roles are so outdated. I'm sure those girls were just trying to be nice, friendly even.

    I also doubt that everyone at your school hates you. I had a really difficult time, socially, through elementary and middle school, and it's something tht's just getting better now. Sometimes, I get upset and think everyone hates me, but sometimes you have to just focus on the positive aspects of your self. Everyone has positive traits, and I really doubt that its possible to be universally hated. You jsut need to surround yourself with good, positive people, and look for the good in the world.
     
  19. chris_1661

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    You know, this continues to baffle me..

    i am by nature the sort of person who somewhat clings to old style values, so i hold doors open, carry shopping bags for female friends, and will gladly give up my seat on a bus or train..

    this leads me to something that i have had happen twice now. on the tube in london, while sitting close to the door, a woman gets on carying two large and heavy looking bags. my initial, almost sub concious reaction is to get up and offer the seat. These two times however, i get a torrent of abuse, called a chauvanist pig, and am accused of being insulting to women.

    if someone is walking through a door behind me, i hold it open, its not a veiled threat or a sign of weakness towards them, its just trying to be polite and kind. its like the entire world is on some sort of bizare testosterone fueld agression trip..
     
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