**Movie about the war that was at Gaza, the explanation**

Discussion in 'Politics' started by __MaoR__, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    Oh, Maor! You poor thing!!!

    Your english is FINE ~ completely understandable.

    * Gardener? relaxation = truce

    Not everyone here is against Israel ~ i'm sure not! i believe the same way you do ~ Israel had NO OPTION but to retaliate.

    Wow! Israel really dropped flyers and made phone calls? EXCELLENT!!! :cheers2:

    ANY head's up (notification) is better than a rocket blowing up outside your front door.

    Maor, we Americans (for the most part) have NO EARTHLY IDEA what living in Israel must be like for the people, constantly in fear for our (and our loved one's) lives.

    WHO THE HELL HIDES OUT IN THEIR CHILDREN'S SCHOOLS to blow off rockets?!?!?!?!? (And, i mean, what if the old rocket doesn't work and just blows up right there? :eek: )

    COWARDS, that's who! Dumb cowards, at that.

    Something is going on, that people can't see things clearly anymore, i think. They AGREE with our President just ignoring our Constitution, and hiding his past. Why? Too much trouble to get out a magnifying glass to actually see the clues, and once he's in? (Today, btw) Too much trouble to get him out.

    Maybe that's it. Americans are turning into a bunch of lily-livered chickens that don't want to fight for anything, including what is right and true. Sad...

    Anyway, you're not alone, in here ~ some of the folks are seeing with their minds and eyes, instead of just their hearts. ;)
     
  2. __MaoR__

    __MaoR__ Guest

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    and how it's belong to Gaza?!

    I explained you why there're 1200!
    Hamas is guilty !
    He caused to that war to begin!
    The war was in target of stopping the rockets
    against Israel !
    believe me that other countries were not giving to Hamas to rule at Gaza!

    8 years we suffer and no body refer us!
    now all the world is involved!
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I am seeing with my heart and what I see is that Israelis held a caged shoot. They dropped flyers...wahoo! Did they wish for the arabs to come out and pick them up so they could pick them off?

    I may be a lily livered licken chicken, but I don't ever think killing innocents is acceptable.

    I am not one of those that salutes everything in uniform. sorry if you are.

    As to hiding in Schools the Israelis have said they made a mistake.
     
  4. __MaoR__

    __MaoR__ Guest

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    I'm happy ! really!

    and to the other
    it's so because our citizens know how to be protected !

    but they live in fearrrr 8 years!! in fearr
    children are live in Fear!
    I can't see USA give to people in her country
    to live in situation like that!
     
  5. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    The only ones that are guilty are those that killed. Your govenments can't absolve you. Don't care if you wore a uniform or not if you were responsible it's your burden. You will bear it. I will not be a party to your killing.
     
  6. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    lol, i love the whole "he started it" arguement.. it would be really funny if it wasnt being used to justify the murder of women and children..
     
  7. __MaoR__

    __MaoR__ Guest

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    I saw in the TV that citizens take the flyers
    and say they won't go !
    you understand ?!

    see the movie I sent!
    see the pictures how the IDF help the citizens!
    If Hamas was next to citizens in Israel, Those citizens were killed!
     
  8. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    seriously though.. i have looked and been unable to find a answer.

    where were the innocent women and children supposed to go?
    did they have a place to evacuate to?

    and moving from one end of the strip to the other doesnt count as a evacuation option IMO..
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    You are happy about killing others? Happy abot others living in fear? Hopefully Israel won't get any further aid.
     
  10. __MaoR__

    __MaoR__ Guest

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    1. They had to go from the area, they were warned
    2. I'm happy that he agree with me
     
  11. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Welcome Maor to our forums. Try not to insult our existing members here and make rude comments. I know it's tough because they are criticizing you for a few things that may not be true about yourself, but there are people here who support a peaceful resolution in dealing with the Hamas groups.

    I'd like to remind people, that it is common place for terrorist groups to seek refuge in hospitals, schools, and civilian building complexes in order to feel safe and secured from the people that they seek to destroy. Some of they places will even harbour terrorist groups. They'll make it seem like a school of innocent children were bombed when in fact, the school was closed for the day and targeted Hamas rebel groups were holding a meeting.

    It's normal for Hamas groups to slink away and hide behind civilians and use them as a shield. Much like what this new poster is trying to say.

    Whether you all agree to at what extend they do this is fair game, but it happens.
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    You closed their borders, where they supposed to go?
     
  13. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    So one of the moderators is also an Isreali apologist?
     
  14. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    go where? thats all im asking..

    it seems to me when the israeli troops went in they spread out and pretty much made the entire strip a war zone then dropped fliers telling people to move from one section of a war zone to another..
    where were they given a option to get completely out of the war zone?
    as far as i can tell they were not given that option..
     
  15. HawaiianEye

    HawaiianEye Member

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    Well said!----And Hamas is alot more ruthless than that.AND these Hamas are among the best liars,and they will do anything for world opinion.Who knows maybe Hamas even harm some of their own civilians,nothing would surprise me.
     
  16. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    And the zionists are a lot more dangerous than any arab faction out there. Nothing surprises me about them either. Hell it should be pretty obvious with this thread that started out promoting a dumb video that wasn't really well made.

    I'll probably be banned soon.
     
  17. __MaoR__

    __MaoR__ Guest

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    OK. Thanks

    You know, they have more areas than Gaza
    They had more areas in the strip they could go

    Hamas used the citizens, the children,
    the schools, the hospitals, to be defended
    He thought Israel won't attack thos places
    but when he sent rockets from those places,
    they became to Hamas launching's places!
    I have to remind you that he sent rockets from mosque ?!

    Hamas is more ruthless from what you think
     
  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    GaSA is how big? The Israelis bombed how much of it? All borders were closed.
     
  19. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    But some how or another, you don't think Hamas is killing innocents? In fact, THOSE innocents, by hiding behind and amongst them?

    To my mind, if Hamas really does think it has a right to do this to Israel,

    why don't they form up a military and fight their war like MEN?

    And that's something that gets me ~ would you, even if you knew WITHOUT A DOUBT that your cause was justified,

    EVER hide in a civilian population? Use children as shields?

    Of course not!

    And that's why i say that it's like we're seeing things the wrong way around ~ Hamas STARTS the skirmish, fights like cowards, getting tons of their civilians killed BECAUSE OF THEIR SOP (Standard Operating Proceedure), but it's the one's trying to defend themselves that are in the wrong?

    i've never heard of warning the enemy citizenry of an oncoming battle and yet, that just gets pushed aside. If they were warning them, it occurs to me that Israel provided some sort of safe egress,

    AT THE RISK OF THEIR OWN LIVES,

    because we KNOW how Hamas operates.

    It's crazy.
     
  20. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    more areas in a 15 mile long by 5 mile wide strip? how compassionate..:rolleyes:
     

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